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Datisi · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:21 am

it seems like everyone (other than baltar) has ignored my vote on hutmeil, and everyone period has ignored their return to the game? anyone else find this really odd?

Andante · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:21 am

In post 645, Something_Smart wrote:I feel like I have a decent sense, as scum, of what things I shouldn't do because they'll attract primarily negative attention. And that sense is absent as town-- it almost never enters the equation. Probably because I have some amount of faith in the scumhunting skill of the people I'm playing with, that I assume that if I keep saying genuine things as town people will more often than not eventually read me town for it.

YOOO I'm like that!! As scum, literally everything I say I go "will this help me get TRed/ is this at all scummy.." then town... I'm just free, genuinely don't care how people read it... cause I know the town here will recognize me (and if I interpreted that wrong... my be.. not bad faith @VP!!!)

Know who got awfully silent??
Datisi...

Andante · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:21 am

DATISI IS BACK!!!

ISO · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:21 am

In post 647, Datisi wrote:what is the reason that *this* is something you chose to talk about, (i'm assuming) of all things?

I tried to talk to Ari about it before, and she ignored me, and then I complained that she ignored me, and she said she ignored me on purpose because she didn't want to talk about it, and then she asked me what I wanted to talk about.

Andante · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:21 am

In post 650, Datisi wrote:it seems like everyone (other than baltar) has ignored my vote on hutmeil, and everyone period has ignored their return to the game? anyone else find this really odd?

I saw it, I think hut's kinda towny, so I didn't jump to that wagon

Datisi · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:22 am

In post 651, Andante wrote:Know who got awfully silent??

it's almost like
i said i was gonna be v/la
studied until 2am, slept 3 hours last night, took a test, got a motherfucking A on it, passed out, went to work, and came back home

gee i can't believe i was so awfully silent

Datisi · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:23 am

yes, the point of that post is to let you know i did well on the test, thank you for asking

Andante · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:23 am

In post 649, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 617, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 283, Andante wrote:I TR you Vulture!!
Also, was this genuine when you said it? If so, what changed for you?
@andante^

uhh I had no read at the time, and vulture was talking about always being SRed at the time, so I said that. like, if you wanna take what I say out of the context it's said in.. obv you're gonna think they're shit posts

Andante · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:23 am

In post 655, Datisi wrote:
In post 651, Andante wrote:Know who got awfully silent??
it's almost like
i said i was gonna be v/la
studied until 2am, slept 3 hours last night, took a test, got a motherfucking A on it, passed out, went to work, and came back home

gee i can't believe i was so awfully silent

WOOOOO CONGRATS ON THE A!!!!

Datisi · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:25 am

In post 653, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 647, Datisi wrote:what is the reason that *this* is something you chose to talk about, (i'm assuming) of all things?
I tried to talk to Ari about it before, and she ignored me, and then I complained that she ignored me, and she said she ignored me on purpose because she didn't want to talk about it, and then she asked me what I wanted to talk about.

fair
do you have opinions on what those posts mean with regard to vp baltar's alignment, or are you just trying to play devil's advocate?

Andante · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:25 am

Datisi, what are your thoughts on VP's scumcase on me?

Datisi · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:26 am

In post 654, Andante wrote:
In post 650, Datisi wrote:it seems like everyone (other than baltar) has ignored my vote on hutmeil, and everyone period has ignored their return to the game? anyone else find this really odd?
I saw it, I think hut's kinda towny, so I didn't jump to that wagon

why are they townie?

did you need me for anything when you mentioned me?

Datisi · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:26 am

In post 660, Andante wrote:Datisi, what are your thoughts on VP's scumcase on me?

give me... 15 minutes to get myself a snack, brb

Andante · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:27 am

In post 661, Datisi wrote:did you need me for anything when you mentioned me?

nah, I was just like "oh wait, where's datisi?" you're not one of the 8 with like no posts though so overall you're fine

VP Baltar · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:29 am

In post 650, Datisi wrote:it seems like everyone (other than baltar) has ignored my vote on hutmeil, and everyone period has ignored their return to the game? anyone else find this really odd?

Their return to the game just proved I was correct, so my silence was smug satisfaction.

Andante · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:30 am

like, I'd LOVE more to read from people other than Ari vs SS and VP vs Me, like, everyone else... plz jump in or something

Datisi · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:31 am

In post 664, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 650, Datisi wrote:it seems like everyone (other than baltar) has ignored my vote on hutmeil, and everyone period has ignored their return to the game? anyone else find this really odd?
Their return to the game just proved I was correct, so my silence was smug satisfaction.

correct about what? that they're new? that doesn't make them town

@andante, answer the other question in 661 please

VP Baltar · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:32 am

In post 657, Andante wrote:
In post 649, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 617, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 283, Andante wrote:I TR you Vulture!!
Also, was this genuine when you said it? If so, what changed for you?
@andante^
uhh I had no read at the time, and vulture was talking about always being SRed at the time, so I said that. like, if you wanna take what I say out of the context it's said in.. obv you're gonna think they're shit posts

I was actually just asking so I understood what you were thinking and if it was a joke or not.

ISO · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:32 am

In post 659, Datisi wrote:do you have opinions on what those posts mean with regard to vp baltar's alignment, or are you just trying to play devil's advocate?

I think it's a fairly solid argument, which is +town for him.

VP Baltar · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:33 am

In post 666, Datisi wrote:correct about what? that they're new? that doesn't make them town

Didn't say it makes then town, but it means the push you and andante were on was kind snoozefest, yes?

Andante · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:33 am

@datisi, this post seemed good. I mean, they're not lock town for obvious reason, I just definitely SR others more, and he said he was gonna ISO fire for something, so like, I look forward to that takeaway

In post 508, hutmeil wrote:
In post 296, Datisi wrote:
In post 295, hutmeil wrote:Also what's with the Aris-Datisi "flirting", any history there?
yes

you could say we do that a lot :>
Lol ok!

In post 310, Andante wrote:VOTE: hutmeil
they seem a little off, like their “focus” upon entering doesn’t seem to be to actually sort anyone, and just asked a few questions where like you could give any answer and they probably wouldn’t even follow up? idk, they just don’t feel like town to me, and they’re probably my strong “lead” for where to go to find maf, could just be I SR their stuff cause there’s not a lot, but I genuinely don’t like what we have so far from hut

In post 322, Andante wrote:what I like to call "busy work"

and hut did that but worse? hut's stuff was like strictly not really game related lol, like why do you care if I TR or SR Vulture? they don't have lots of posts, so obviously my read there isn't mega strong, like, you want clarification on my VULTURE read? yet I can tr and sr datisi in the same paragraph... and no questions?
Well, my first few posts were because I got mod prodded lol. Didn't realize game has started. Weekend is family time so ....

Anyway, my questions though quite short are genuine clarifications to what the other slots said. Vulture already responded (thanks!). You didn't directly respond to me, but your recent reads posts indirectly answered my question. And that Datisi-Aris thing hmmm ok

In post 328, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 317, Datisi wrote:i agree hut is being explicitly not townie right now,
Is there some hut meta I should know here? What's not town there other than just general not playing the game yet.

Same Q to andante.
^ This. So I'm not town because I don't post that much? I understand though, I don't like lurkers too! Speaking of, Malakittens hasn't posted yet has she?

In post 473, Vulture wrote:
In post 292, hutmeil wrote:
In post 21, Vulture wrote:So (speaking anecdotally because I can’t reference back to it anymore) on Epicmafia this setup was played with few numbers, basically. I wanna say it was like 2/3/2. Masons sometimes outed themselves day one. This lessened the pool that people needed to hunt within, and kind of... guided the kills in a way, in that uh... you’re not analyzing the kills for “was this mason hunting or not” so much as like...

Kills were then made and analyzed as “the clear died expected” or, rarely, “why didn’t the clear die here?” Almost always the masons died but sometimes they didn’t and it was a ? moment.

I immediately thought of it when I saw this game and wanted to throw it out there as a way of tackling the game, or alternatively having only one mason out themselves and be the go-between for themselves and the others, etc.
What happened then? Did Town/Mason win when they outed early?
Town won more often than not. The caveat is that the pool is smaller than it would be here, but having town focus in on people who it could reasonably be instead of tunneling masons for a bit was beneficial.
I see. That's an interesting strategy. But if Masons claim early, they'd surely be NKd multiple nights in a row? Isn't that bad for Town?

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After going through 21 pages, I see that most of you know each other from previous games. And so far most of the discussions are meta this and meta that. Unfortunately, I don't have that same advantage since it's just my 2nd game on this site.

I find Andante scummy just for the fact that he keeps changing his votes. If I counted correctly, you've already voted 8 times! But then again he seems playful so cannot really read into anything there.

As for Vulture, suggesting to out PR roles this early seems scummy too. But it's a strategy nonetheless. Not sure if that benefits Town/Scum more.

The others I don't really have much read yet.

Datisi · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:37 am

In post 669, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 666, Datisi wrote:correct about what? that they're new? that doesn't make them town
Didn't say it makes then town, but it means the push you and andante were on was kind snoozefest, yes?

i don't recall you being cagey about pressuring people.

Andante · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:40 am

In post 671, Datisi wrote:
In post 669, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 666, Datisi wrote:correct about what? that they're new? that doesn't make them town
Didn't say it makes then town, but it means the push you and andante were on was kind snoozefest, yes?
i don't recall you being cagey about pressuring people.

wait till you see VP's case on me... he has literally never tunneled me like this before. ever. I'm pretty sure I'm playing like I always do...
VOTE: VP

he mafia

VP Baltar · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:42 am

In post 671, Datisi wrote:
In post 669, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 666, Datisi wrote:correct about what? that they're new? that doesn't make them town
Didn't say it makes then town, but it means the push you and andante were on was kind snoozefest, yes?
i don't recall you being cagey about pressuring people.

Doubling down when you're wrong is usually a bad approach.

I accept apologies in beer and votes on andante.

Andante · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:43 am

In post 673, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 671, Datisi wrote:
In post 669, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 666, Datisi wrote:correct about what? that they're new? that doesn't make them town
Didn't say it makes then town, but it means the push you and andante were on was kind snoozefest, yes?
i don't recall you being cagey about pressuring people.
Doubling down when you're wrong is usually a bad approach.

I accept apologies in beer and votes on andante.

aren't you just doubling down on me?