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vote count 1.02

with 17 votes in play, it takes 9 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-22 23:00:00).

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Fredrick A Campbell [3]:

Andante, bugspray, Greeting

MalcolmTucker [2]:

Vivax, Enchant

Vivax [2]:

UNOwen, Lowell

PookyTheMagicalBear [1]:

Fredrick A Campbell

Firebringer [1]:

PookyTheMagicalBear

Dwlee99 [1]:

MegAzumarill

Greeting [1]:

Prince of Paterson

not voting [6]:

MalcolmTucker, Firebringer, Dwlee99, Crescent, geraintm, FancyPants

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[UNOwen]

Why does it seem more likely?

Because the alternative is you got spooked by "hello everyone".

Tell me what his post looks like to you and I’ll answer.

Suspicious attempt at saying "don't expect much from me".

[Vivax]

Why does it seem more likely?

Because the alternative is you got spooked by "hello everyone".

Tell me what his post looks like to you and I’ll answer.

Suspicious attempt at saying "don't expect much from me".

The point is that I did.
Fine, have it your way if you want to withhold information.

VOTE: UNOwen

[Vivax]

TL;DR: Owen is mafia because it flew over his head how many people who are most likely town did scummy, nonsensical or lazy stuff to attract the reaction he’s displaying now.

[Greeting]

My early TRs are:

Andante

Vivax

Enchant

Crescent

Order is meaningless.

Rest is kinda ???,

geraintm

's post 88 kinda gave me a bad vibe, but I'm not giving out a scumread over one post only.

[Greeting]

Maybe if

geraintm

is scum, then so is

MegAzumarill

and 117 was faked as a response to a likely true concern (which both a town and scum player could have). Admittedly though, this could also be scum

Meg

trying to pocket

geraintm

.

Meg

is playing differently to what I remember, both as scum and town too.

This is a mental note to myself to come back to sort these two later in the game.

[geraintm]

My early TRs are:

Andante

Vivax

Enchant

Crescent

Order is meaningless.

Rest is kinda ???,

geraintm

's post 88 kinda gave me a bad vibe, but I'm not giving out a scumread over one post only.

My hello post without even a vote gives you a bad vibe?
Holy mackerel this is going to be a long game

[geraintm]

I can’t type.

VOTE: lowell

[MalcolmTucker]

can we not post a VC for every single vote please... if you do it, please just throw it in a spoiler, but spamming "unnoficial" VCs for every single vote is not appreciated... you literally posted 3 on 1 page... and no one changed votes in the span of you posting them

VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell

This feels like something scum could easily feign annoyance over for the sake of an early vote to look busy.

so me being annoyed that there's literally 3 VCs posted in a row is scummy, yet him actually spamming VCs to look like he's doing something is not scummy? like, sorry not sorry, this is a 17p game, it has potential to reach hundres of posts in a few hours (idk the vibe of this game yet) but rather than Fredrick spamming VCs all D1 I'm asking him to knock it off now. like it literally makes it so much harder to actually read the game. so if you want to go at me for "scum is faking annoyance here" let's go. Tell me how it's not annoying to spam 3 VCs in a row, and it definitely looks like he intends to keep doing this. so TELL ME please. how is this not annoying

I was half-joking when I said that to be honest but your responses are townie.

[UNOwen]

That's not much of an answer Vivax.

[MalcolmTucker]

Two points to make. To be direct: I didn't read much into Andante there, but Malcolm deciding to shade it is

really

weak for someone who posted just 3 times, and the reason he gave for said shade could easily apply to him.

Vivax now has placed as many votes as he did the entire first day in 2273, and it's kinda jarring. I want to hear what Vivax himself has to say about this.

It was something of a throwaway observation, I do think it's the type of thing scum could feign annoyance over to appear more townie but I'm typically not too committed to reads early in the game and like to feel players out. As outlined above I think Andante's response to my shade was very much townie if maybe a bit over the top.

[MalcolmTucker]

My early TRs are:

Andante

Vivax

Enchant

Crescent

Order is meaningless.

Rest is kinda ???,

geraintm

's post 88 kinda gave me a bad vibe, but I'm not giving out a scumread over one post only.

My hello post without even a vote gives you a bad vibe?
Holy mackerel this is going to be a long game

Early game tends to be primarily about vibes though and just coming up with initial reads based on very little to see how they float. I think your first post was fine personally but it's not as if Greeting is giving out a proper committed scumread for it.

[Vivax]

That's not much of an answer Vivax.

You’d have a life expectancy of maybe 24 h on my community with how badly you play and get away with it.
Luckily for you, these are lethargic lands.

[Vivax]

At some point someone might read Owens posts with the intent to give them a read or point out their uselesness, anyhow. Maybe in two days. Or he’ll get vigged N1 again and flip red. One could hope.

[Andante]

I am scum don’t u dare call me town u dirty….w/e u are

I don't believe you and will call you town for bad reasons.

If MalcolmTucker is mafia and pinged m!Andante then #69 explains the additional annoyance in the tone from her part.
Let's say it's a possible timeline.

ok, why are you talking as if I'm flipped scum? these few posts just read weird to me? it's just like, I don't even get it "we need andante flip first" "maf!anante" like what??

[Vivax]

I am scum don’t u dare call me town u dirty….w/e u are

I don't believe you and will call you town for bad reasons.

If MalcolmTucker is mafia and pinged m!Andante then #69 explains the additional annoyance in the tone from her part.
Let's say it's a possible timeline.

ok, why are you talking as if I'm flipped scum? these few posts just read weird to me? it's just like, I don't even get it "we need andante flip first" "maf!anante" like what??

It's an information avenue for a future point to look back to in case you flip mafia. Not relevant right now except as a diary for my thoughts, need folks who signed up to try and find mafia.

[Crescent]

At some point someone might read Owens posts with the intent to give them a read or point out their uselesness, anyhow. Maybe in two days. Or he’ll get vigged N1 again and flip red. One could hope.

Owen in that past game spent basically all day 1 on Corwin, but he does feel a little more proactive here - It felt before like he kinda let other people try to make the actual arguments instead of making them himself. I don't read a lot into it in either direction yet.

Lord I can't seem to stay awake today. It's like that perfect mix of heat and humidity that keeps making me pass out.

[Crescent]

I am scum don’t u dare call me town u dirty….w/e u are

I don't believe you and will call you town for bad reasons.

If MalcolmTucker is mafia and pinged m!Andante then #69 explains the additional annoyance in the tone from her part.
Let's say it's a possible timeline.

ok, why are you talking as if I'm flipped scum? these few posts just read weird to me? it's just like, I don't even get it "we need andante flip first" "maf!anante" like what??

It's an information avenue for a future point to look back to in case you flip mafia. Not relevant right now except as a diary for my thoughts, need folks who signed up to try and find mafia.

I have no idea where this logic is even going. I don't see how her getting mad somehow points to them being potentially scum together.

[Prince of Paterson]

Why does it seem more likely?

Because the alternative is you got spooked by "hello everyone".

Tell me what his post looks like to you and I’ll answer.

Suspicious attempt at saying "don't expect much from me".

The point is that I did.
Fine, have it your way if you want to withhold information.

VOTE: UNOwen

Are you interpreting their post as withholding information? It looks to me like they answered both of your questions. I'm not sure what your complaint is here.

[Prince of Paterson]

Liking Crescent so far, they seem comfortable, and the quick jump to read past games of UNOwen seemed a little bit more likely to be real rather than performative. Dwlee99's entrance didn't feel great to me.

VOTE: Dwlee99

[Vivax]

Why does it seem more likely?

Because the alternative is you got spooked by "hello everyone".

Tell me what his post looks like to you and I’ll answer.

Suspicious attempt at saying "don't expect much from me".

The point is that I did.
Fine, have it your way if you want to withhold information.

VOTE: UNOwen

Are you interpreting their post as withholding information? It looks to me like they answered both of your questions. I'm not sure what your complaint is here.

No, Owen didn’t post an opinion on geraintms entrance. Feel free to prove me wrong.

I am mostly interpreting his posts as uncooperativeness because he’s salty he got scumread as mafia traitor and shot N1 in last game. So now he spends the remainder of his time in this game venting like that. I’m not even sure that he’s mafia.

[Prince of Paterson]

No, Owen didn’t post an opinion on geraintms entrance. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Are you sure about that? His response there seems to fit as an opinion on geraintm's entrance. It seems like you interpreted it as a characterization of your own post, but I don't think there's really any reason to believe that's more likely than him simply answering your question.

[Vivax]

No, Owen didn’t post an opinion on geraintms entrance. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Are you sure about that? His response there seems to fit as an opinion on geraintm's entrance. It seems like you interpreted it as a characterization of your own post, but I don't think there's really any reason to believe that's more likely than him simply answering your question.

Okay, what‘s his opinion on geraints entrance in your own words?

[Prince of Paterson]

Okay, what‘s his opinion on geraints entrance in your own words?

Seems that he believes geraintm was making pre-emptive excuses for his own play being lacking (game is larger, set-up is weird, implying he won't be able to keep track of what is going on) and UNOwen thought that was suspicious.

[Crescent]

Why does it seem more likely?

Because the alternative is you got spooked by "hello everyone".

Tell me what his post looks like to you and I’ll answer.

Suspicious attempt at saying "don't expect much from me".

The point is that I did.
Fine, have it your way if you want to withhold information.

VOTE: UNOwen

Are you interpreting their post as withholding information? It looks to me like they answered both of your questions. I'm not sure what your complaint is here.

No, Owen didn’t post an opinion on geraintms entrance. Feel free to prove me wrong.

I am mostly interpreting his posts as uncooperativeness because he’s salty he got scumread as mafia traitor and shot N1 in last game. So now he spends the remainder of his time in this game venting like that. I’m not even sure that he’s mafia.

This is kind of a gross misinterpretation of 2273. The scumreads on Owen were more about doing absolutely nothing, and there were 3 people up for vote on day. He was behind both Corwin and George in popularity, and the

only

reason he got vigged was his literal scumhammer out of nowhere on George immediately after his Detective claim.