Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

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I am not ignoring FL + Keeper together

keeper and FL can't be scum together.

keeper is holding on to that glad like it's a life preserver.

The only way FL is scum is mafia.
3 mafia are dead.
Mod confirmed 4 mafia
4-3 = 1

FL +Keeper is impossible
They cannot be scum of the same alignment

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the most important question here Nero, is not "is math scum?" but "is FL scum?" if math is wolf we can try to figure it out tomorrow and I think we still get 1 miselim to sort shit out

if FL isn't scum then we are in a v bad spot

what do you think FL's alignment is?

You might just be town.

I am going to revisit my wolf read on you.

You’re still in my wolf PoE but you st least get my point

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shitarded

can we not

Thank you Menalque

And yeah I kinda want to end the day

I know FL is scum because of reasons outlined.

I think any other elim besides he or i is antitown

I don’t see me knowing who the wolves are except Titus short of her or Mala claiming them

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I mean, no one would know it except CSF and her scum buddy, I'm not sure they'd call you on it or just nk you but you kinda had to announce that you got the thing from CSF.

I mean if no one CCs Menalque it kinda shows that Menalque is probably not mafia and shows that CSF was setting up Klick to look ascetic. Menalque could still be a wolf and this was a signal but more than likely Menalque town because Menalque got CSF message

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This means I am down to one lock wolf which is ewww

But I think we can see by how the day plays out

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yes, it was the "town" thing to do but he also

HAD

to do it. CSF just knows he's a wolf if he didn't say it.

CSF could have just said he targeted Klick and target no one

But yeah he picked Menalque so I kinda think Menalque is town for it

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A mafia buddy would have opened with it I think

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Hey, if i were Mafia in this situation, i always shoot for a wolf anyways, so win win by leaving me alive

Pretend you’re mafia (I know you’re going to say you’re not)

Who are you shooting

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So if you’re mafia

You’d shoot confirmed town Klick?

While saying you’re going to aim for wolves?

Brilliant sales pitch.

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Klick is only Conf town if you flip town.

If you flip Wolf, they are open for Wolf, so yeah, in that scenario.

Hilarious how you omitted the TicTac factor.

Tictac is mechanically possible for a wolf.

I was more demonstrating you have zero interest in townsiding as mafia.

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So if you’re mafia

You’d shoot confirmed town Klick?

While saying you’re going to aim for wolves?

Brilliant sales pitch.

Town casing me, tbh.

Shows I haven’t put much thought into night kills.

Wonder why.

It just shows Wolves you won’t win for them.

Good night FL.

And because you want to keep up the pretense you are to avoid death

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I cast this to pay Keeper

FL is arguing flip the cop here

If I was a traditional cop with an FL guilty
He’s saying you never flip the guilty without flipping the cop first
Like what?

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I found this completely accurate rendering of StD and FL.

(This is a joke for those who have trouble with jokes)

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That wasn’t the takeaway you’re supposed to see StD

You’re feelings are very very bad.

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you mean you don't find me adorable?

Oh no you’re adorable
I just find that you not wanting to confront the fact you are likely pocketed is pretty sad.

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Like what are you doing to verify that’s not the case?

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I worry because I am 99% sure FL is scum here. If we don’t do this right we likely lose

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if i thought you both were town, what am i supposed to do

Vote FL as I am a PR that is a protective and FL if town is functionally vanilla

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Flavor Leaf (4) | MathBlade, tictac, Menalque, bnuuy

wolves clearly want this lim

i don't know if i want to do the wolves any favors

Your wolf reads are wrong

Titus is practically outed wolf

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titus is one person

my read is the entire wolf team is practically piling up on FL

Titus is one person but Mala has been busy so almost all the posting is Titus so I used her name.

And my read is that wolves and mafia minus you are gathered on me.

Your reads are just fundamentally flawed.

CSF doesn’t target a wolf with their ability. They target a town read

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CSF could have targeted a town read

CSF targeted Menalque last night and no one CCd.

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so? maybe menalque was a townread

Then since mafia townread Menalque it’s very unlikely Menalque is a wolf

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I mean let’s look at mafia for a second

Assume mafia exist and are not FL/Titus

Why weren’t they shot by now?

The simple answer is they are scum working together

Titus hasn’t come up with a plausible explanation for how FL is town other than I am scum

TvT just isn’t possible due to mechanics

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She’s picking FL because she wants FL to survive one more day and me dead.

She’s been defending him since D2 with bullshit arguments.

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Bullshit Menalque claimed CSF targeted them last night

Sorry I don’t remember your pronouns Menalque

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I mean let’s look at mafia for a second

Assume mafia exist and are not FL/Titus

Why weren’t they shot by now?

The simple answer is they are scum working together

Titus hasn’t come up with a plausible explanation for how FL is town other than I am scum

TvT just isn’t possible due to mechanics

I've been getting pushed every single day phase this entire game, why would i get night killed.

Because you when town are a good scum hunter

Here you are scum who has miselimmed every single day

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I didn't check CSF, I got friendly neighboured by her

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That’s one of them

I need to find the other and can’t search and am getting dragged into a meeting but Keeper Menalque and I were all talking it’s what caused me to change my Menalque read

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That’s not you getting targeted that’s you stating a read

And CSF could have done a normal kill then so you had to cover.

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I mean let’s look at mafia for a second

Assume mafia exist and are not FL/Titus

Why weren’t they shot by now?

The simple answer is they are scum working together

Titus hasn’t come up with a plausible explanation for how FL is town other than I am scum

TvT just isn’t possible due to mechanics

I've been getting pushed every single day phase this entire game, why would i get night killed.

Because you when town are a good scum hunter

Here you are scum who has miselimmed every single day

This is a straight up lie.

I have only been on on Misfade, what are you talking about?

I have called out 3 scum correctly this game.

What have you done?

You called out Catboi who you killed as mafia

You sheeped Mastina and BSed that

You miselimmed Cassowary

I have defended Cassowary and pushed you and Id’d Titus

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I gotta go

But FL is a liar and scum

He has not done the things he pays himself on the back for

He’s not elimmed a single scum all fucking game

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that's not a read that's a claim

whether he's lying or not is the question but that's definitely him claiming he got targeted

CSF is not a wolf

Did I just get targeted by CSF from the grave?

No I fucking didn’t

FL is covering for CSF

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Mathblade just said I have miselimmed every single day.

That's straight up a lie. Day 1 I pushed not 1, but 2 scum, shot one of them Night 1.

Day 2 I pushed scumCSF all day, called Malcolm a misfade.

Day 3 I was not on Dunnstral.

Day 4 was the ONLY day I was on a misfade, and I even stated it wasnt the main wagon I wanted.

So where are you getting at that I have mislimmed every single day?

I have actively been the one correctly calling out scum.

Again no day have we flipped scum through elimination

You have not “caught” scum

At best you sussed them and always found a reason to never elim them and didnt convince anyone to do so

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Sheeped the Mastina read*

I am typing fast FL

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I was the only person who pushed Mastina on Day 1

:S

i dunno about that!

That’s provably false later

FL is absolutely scum or we’d have had a scum elim

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i mean it is false. i don't need it proven

You don’t but others might

Could you disprove it? I really have to go

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they could still both be scum, FL as mafia, math as wolf

Then elim FL in that case to save a Townie life

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FL could shoot a wolf

And FL could shoot town

FL shooting town would be bad.

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if FL is mafia and shoots not wolf intentionally then he's playing against wincon, imo. I mean maybe his plan is going to be "oh don't vote me out, if you do then the wolves will win" and maybe you could argue that it's a valid strat but I still think that his goal should be shooting a wolf.

That’s exactly what I said his plan is.

We can’t afford to vote him out after today

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your case on me is shit. I don't like you trying to manipulate me either.

your mena logic sucks.

Again I rescinded my case on you earlier and said that Titus is my only lock Wolf read

And I think you mafia siding sucks

You thinking my Menalque logic sucks doesn’t make you right

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no, I am right. Mena is going to announce that regardless of alignment. He has to b/c if he's a wolf that is intentionally ignoring a soft inno then mafia knows he's wolf.

How? CSF could be blocked?

If you know that Menalque would be outed wolf
For the same reasons FL is outed mafia

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I have two shots of my abilities I listed before

That’s it

I can’t cop wolves anymore

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Good luck and get FL and Titus back to back

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Math you spewed some crap about a cop, include your guilty in there for me. I ain't digging through this pile of a game for your claim deets

I am a Joat
Gunsmith, Occultist, Cleric,Doctor

N1 FL has a gun
N2 Klick no result
N3 Cleric on FL
N4 Klick not occult

I am out of occult shots and one cleric 2 Doctor and 1 GS left

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And I think you mafia siding sucks

how am I doing that? If you are town as you proclaim and you get voted out today and my intention is to vote FL, would I be wolf siding?

If we don’t have the numbers yes

Depends on how the kills go

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Because I am limited shot it is what lead me to think Cass is town despite the wagons.

If I out either side then town loses all its protectives so Cass being town made sense

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I was hoping to hide the fact I can’t check wolves anymore so we flip FL and I die :/

Now that’s incredibly unlikely but I hope we still get FL

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why did you cleric FL n3? Why did you target Klick a 2nd time?

I townread FL at that point. Explained at open of D4

I explained at open of today why Klick
I waffled between Klick and Menalque

Klick however functioned as a check not just on Klick but on CSF and FL as CSF said they’d wine the check. So check the checker and if I got not ascetic that proves to me mechanically FL is scum even more than before

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Howdy howdy

I have my result.

I was going to wait and see if CSF tested Klick but given CSF is dead then

VOTE: FL

Klick is not occult and is conf town.

So can we please elim FL now?

Titus can you please just let go of this FL is town pipe dream you have here?

It just doesn’t work.

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I don't like how insistent Math is about pushing this possibility today when it resolves and then trying to push me as a partner with Flavor. His accusations are out of left field, especially given I documented this before he subbed in.

~Titus

This theory would be exposed in a massclaim as well. There would have to be a method of preventing the mafia kill that worked n1 or n2. His partner would have to claim that as mafia not killing n1 and n2 is not believable.

~Titus

As I said I haven’t read

When you see the position I am in you’ll see why I am pushing it because

(Redacted) is likely impossible.

I don’t particularly care for what is “liked” I care for what is accurate

That still doesn't explain you're pushing me with Flavor given I am entertaining your theory.

You can't expect us to act on redacted.

~Titus

You’re not “entertaining” it. You’re actively defending him. If I am paranoid wolves just kill him and I am the ridiculous one they push tomorrow. You have a case not to push him, which is fine whatever.

I don’t expect anyone to act on redacted today/tonight

I am expecting everywhere with redacted/ascetic to be found after I flip. It will likely give you 2-3 scums and the same pool I gave above.

And if scum don’t kill me it becomes even worse in mass claim when I go through and explain each bit

So either
A) I am lying and full of shit and eat a bullet
B) Truthtelling that I have mechanical issues that I can’t explain right now and die overnight which highlights things
C) Truthtelling that I have mechanical issues that I can’t explain right now and don’t eat a bullet but then with the decreased PoE I will know for a fact that (redacted one) did/did not (redacted two) unless in the rare case (redacted three) but in which case why is (redacted 4) not (redacted 5)?
D) I am lying and full of shit and don’t eat a bullet

Notice how FL doesn’t hammer Dunn? That is sus considering “he’s okay with Dunn”

You’re welcome to push we are in world D but since when do I ever play a gamble I lose?

I almost never make that trade and I am not quite the king of all trades here maybe a lesser noble as some are better at the game of chicken than me

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4-0-21 unless I am just bullshitting to eat a bullet

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My fourth ability is the cleric post 0 is the mod post 21 player is FL

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what do you think of my theory that nash is town b/c they were being voted by both teams?

I think that’s bad.

I think scum were forced to bus as scum were almost all the wagons d1 and d2

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Give me after work to make my Titus case

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Both sides are manipulative, both sides are shifting context to narrative, neither of them make sense.

And thinking about, FL is getting gladiated tomorrow regardless.

If FL is getting gladiated tomorrow why not do him today?

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Other than genuinely having the worst attitude I've ever seen you have, you've been using subtle manipulations all game long.
And no, nothing does prevent me from gladiating you tomorrow - I said I'm going for FL though, and thats where I'm going. I'm sticking to what I've said.

And while I live, you're on Death's List - and I plan to take you down in due course.

Can I ask you to vote FL today and then after he flips mafia you still scumread me do it tomorrow?

Like if you scumread FL he should absolutely go first to save the mafia kill.

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Nashville Dreams has been politely asked to leave Day 8. They were a...

Spoiler:

Werewolf Vanilla Cop 1-shot Neapolitan

Klick,

Town Mason 1-shot Gunsmith

,
Freedom,

Vanilla Townie

,
and Morning Tweet,

Vanilla Townie

,

survive.

Town wins!

Never have I felt more wrong when I had a good solve

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Gg all

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I will say between Jake the Wolfie and Sword of Ducks I am rather jaded about recruiting folks to play on other sites
I feel slighted when people I grab to play in a game don't actually

play the game

.

I thought SoD was venge lol

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night actions and role list?

n1

monkeyman gunsmiths flavor leaf (gun)
klick gunsmiths flavor leaf (gun)
ydrasse parity cops flavor leaf and RCE (not identical)
meg protects klick
flavor leaf kills RCE (RCE dies)
csf does nothing
mastina does nothing
wolves kill no one
nashville vanilla cops SoD (vanilla)
RCE does nothing
butter does nothing

n2

monkeyman occultists klick (no result)
meg holsters
flavor kills mastina
csf silversmiths menalque
mastina blocks monkeyman
tictac kills butterchurn
nashville vanilla cops mastina
butter watches flavor leaf

n3

mathblade clerics FL
meg protects math
mafia have no kill tonight
csf silversmiths FL
tictac kills SCP
nashville vanilla cops cass

n4

mathblade occultists klick [not occult]
meg protects math [success]
csf shoots math [kills meg]
csf activates janitor kill [fails due to role pm wording]
tictac shoots csf [rip mafia]
nashville investigates keeper [not vanilla]

i stopped tracking night actions beyond this point, they are all in the scum PTs since no town had night actions at this point

I think I had a useless mafia doc on N5 but I died I think maybe?

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Oh wait no I was elimmed my plan was a mafia doc