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[catboi]

Vote Count 3.02

fireisredsir (3):

Save The Dragons, Enchant, Andante

Something_Smart (1):

Datisi

Andante (1):

Something_Smart

Enchant (1):

fireisredsir

Not Voting (3):

hutmeil, implosion, Aristeia

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is July 22 at 8:00 PM EST.

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(expired on 2022-07-22 20:00:00)

[Aristeia]

oh god now that the wagon I've always wanted is within reach I am getting cold feet

I am awful at this game ;_;

[implosion]

I kind of find it hard to imagine a world where I'm excited for fire to be alive in the endgame.

i'm not sure what i want. i feel like i have townreads and ???reads this game and i'm not sure how to fix it. and i don't townread enchant right now and want to have a read on them, and you sorta seem like you know what you're doing and i still think you're town, and having a read on enchant would lower my open-857-related anxiety at least by some 34.6% so here i am i guess.

I don't want to permanently write off Enchant as town but I do think they're very far out of the recent scumrange I've seen from them. That said, I wouldn't exactly say I know what I'm doing?

[Aristeia]

so um does anyone want to talk me into or out of a fire vote rn?

[Enchant]

oh god now that the wagon I've always wanted is within reach I am getting cold feet

I am awful at this game ;_;

Wear socks

[Enchant]

so um does anyone want to talk me into or out of a fire vote rn?

Yes

[Aristeia]

so um does anyone want to talk me into or out of a fire vote rn?

Yes

ok why do you want to elim fire?

[hutmeil]

ive thought about it some more and im going back to thinking it isn't hut

Thank you!

don't really think we should lim in [std, implo, ari, dats, hut] and if im right on that and everyone agrees then the poe of [andante, ss, enchant, me] wins the game. but they probably don't agree and i might not be right, so hey, idk

That POE list is basically the same as mine plus enchant for that quick hammer. I'm willing to vote anyone from that list.

i have a kinda hard time seeing ss+andante as a team so i kind of want enchant. i really think implo should reassess his TRs on enchant and andante if not now then after i die bc im p sure he's wrong on one of them or maybe both

i also think that i probably have to die at some point for the game to be solvable just due to the positions ive been in so far which is unfort but thats okay, i understand. i think atp that me living to elo would be an actively bad idea for the likelihood of winning the game. i don't think there's really anything that i could do that would prove my towniness here, and of the 5 people i think are town, at least 3 of them want me dead and i don't think that's ever fully going away

This sounds towny to me (willing to die for town). But then again, it sounds like what a sly politician would say so idk.

[Enchant]

so um does anyone want to talk me into or out of a fire vote rn?

Yes

ok why do you want to elim fire?

Because fire is mafia duh

[implosion]

S_S, do you still have no direct read on Andante's play?

Do you scumread anyone else on play?

[Aristeia]

the more I think about it. the more I kind of want to elim Andante today.

I dunno if I am overthinking on fire or if I am just confused.

I have a lot of thoughts but they're not very well organized currently and I am going to try to put them together again later.

[Aristeia]

I really should reread fire again ack

[Datisi]

ariiiii

don't ignore my 2114 please :<

[Datisi]

andante, who else is scum besides fire and who are your townreads? (this can wait those 24 hours but i do want you to get back to me on this)

I'm not going to out where my reads stand, but fire maf makes the most sense with where my reads are

or... you could instead do out your reads :3

[Datisi]

i had a thought yesterday how andante has been more energetic during day 2 than what i'd expect scum!andante to be this game. my logic was, if scum!andante just tried the wacky-ass strategy of saving penguin d1 with that hail mary counterwagon, penguin flipped anyway, and people were mostly townreading andante on entrance to d2, then i think it's more likely scum!andante decides to play d2 a bit more quietly rather than drawing possible attention to herself. i feel like scum wouldn't want to risk having people turn the "too scummy to be scum" read into "actually just scum" read, and the usual way of achieving that is posting a little bit less than needed

(maybe kind of like s_s did. yes i'm aware that s_s being low-impact isn't a good way to gauge if he's scum, shut)

i don't know if this applies to scum!andante specifically, but it feels correct enough, coupled with my earlier townread of her, that i wanna keep her in my "in case of emergency, break glass" townread tier along with enchant

[Aristeia]

datisi what is your read of fire

[Aristeia]

ariiiii

don't ignore my 2114 please :<

ss is probably town

[Datisi]

datisi what is your read of fire

scum by poe

i don't have something great to call him scum on, but i also don't have anything good to call him town on either, and i'm wondering if that should be telling to me

[Datisi]

ariiiii

don't ignore my 2114 please :<

ss is probably town

why is s_s town? i'm kinda hurting for scumreads otherwise >.>

[Aristeia]

sigh im so sad because now i think you rolled scum with andante

[Aristeia]

maybe its because i've gotten only 2 hours of sleep

[Aristeia]

i think fire is town now because it makes very little sense for scum fire to not shoot me either n1 or n2,

also there's like no1 who makes sense to be paired with a scum!fire atp

[Aristeia]

andante is very obviously scum atp and the way you are defending her feels very partnered

[Datisi]

i feel like i am blatantly town in this game and i do not understand how andante is Obvious Scum here?

[Aristeia]

because if she was town there'd be a lot more votes on her