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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:13 am

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In post 2195, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2191, Andante wrote:Right, let me make a counter argument for the dead people... I'm just not maf? that simple
That's... not a counterargument.
Ahh my bad. @VP and @Gamma can yall clarify your argument I'm supposed to counter? Oh wait... they're dead...

Cause idk why you're expecting me to have a counter to "why did the 2 people who SR you die" like idk? I'm not maf, can't speak for maf
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:17 am

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You already gave a counter in , I'm asking you to expand on it.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:27 am

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What i miss?
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:40 am

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In post 2186, Andante wrote:
In post 2167, Aristeia wrote:a. if she's town then scum have been framing her with nightkills for 2 nights straight
how am I even framed? scum literally just killed talkative people with high odds of being masons that weren't SRed? it's not framing to do that?
literally what is there to expand on?
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:43 am

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In post 2201, Something_Smart wrote:You already gave a counter in , I'm asking you to expand on it.
this post was meant for the scum pt


also andante is ignoring me again, that is fine i'm not hurt i aM FINE
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:50 am

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In post 2193, Datisi wrote:
In post 2190, Andante wrote:hmmm ari is probably town
okay

who else are your townreads?

why'd you only now say you'd be fine killing s_s?
hi!! sorry!!! not ignoring!! I mean, I'm trying to keep my SRs to 1 or 2 people, I'm not trying to narrow down possible masons, like, yeah, thus. I SR fire, I'm good with a fire lim. There was talk of "I sr SS" and I wanted to be like "yeah I'm not thinking he's town" just so it's not like "hmmm no one SRs him??" like yeah no, he literally won't try to give a definite read on fire? idk, I've voiced the important thoughts, not sure the rest are important.

NOT IGNORING YOU!!!
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:01 am

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um sorry, what is your read on s_s? i'm even more confused now than when i first asked >.>

and i don't see how asking who your townreads are is "narrowing down masons"?
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:18 am

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Datisi, how would you rate Ari's ability to read me compared to your own?
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:25 am

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In post 2207, Something_Smart wrote:Datisi, how would you rate Ari's ability to read me compared to your own?
considering i cannot remember a game where all three of us played in that would be actually useable for this

i'm gonna say "probably somewhat better than mine"
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:00 am

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In post 2207, Something_Smart wrote:Datisi, how would you rate Ari's ability to read me compared to your own?
really do not like this question bc

1) you know the answer already. you're just trying to lead datisi towards the idea that ari's townread on you is worth more than his own read. proposing that idea on its own isn't shady, but doing this weird indirect innocent-sounding-but-very-leading question thing is, imo

2) you are aware of the meta that ari will use to read you and are capable of adjusting your play around that. you clearly indicated here that you know what your town and scumgames look like, and that you are carefully thinking about how you play in relation to your own meta
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:03 am

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no, no, i wanna see where he goes with it
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:05 am

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kinda doubt he was going to follow up on it at all, regardless of alignment. not really his style
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:06 am

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okay

i have more comments on the matter but i wanna see what s_s has to say first
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:21 am

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Well, if you said yours was clearly better, I was going to object to that. If you said hers was clearly better, I was going to ask why you weren't trusting it over yours.

Since you did neither, there isn't much more to say. I don't inherently think that Ari's townread is worth more than yours, except insomuch as she seems more confident.
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:22 am

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yall are funny!! hahahaha
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:24 am

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In post 2209, fireisredsir wrote:1) you know the answer already. you're just trying to lead datisi towards the idea that ari's townread on you is worth more than his own read. proposing that idea on its own isn't shady, but doing this weird indirect innocent-sounding-but-very-leading question thing is, imo

2) you are aware of the meta that ari will use to read you and are capable of adjusting your play around that. you clearly indicated here that you know what your town and scumgames look like, and that you are carefully thinking about how you play in relation to your own meta
These are both wrong btw. I genuinely did not know how he would answer, nor do I know what the true answer is. And just because I know what my towngame looks like in broad strokes doesn't mean I can adapt to what individual players expect, especially ones like Ari who approach the game vastly differently from me. What that post shows is that I'm scared to make any adjustments to my scumplay because I never know who is going to catch on.
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:26 am

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Also, I don't see how your objections relate to my alignment. Why am I more likely to do an innocent-sounding-but-very-leading thing as scum? You think I didn't know it was (potentially) leading, or I thought Datisi wouldn't notice?
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:29 am

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the only person i would do the "they townread s_s and i think they're town, so i'm townreading s_s with zero questions asked" with is lilith

i feel like the last few games, my read on you has not been great, so "i didn't know what he'd answer" feels weird but meh
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:31 am

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In post 2217, Datisi wrote:the only person i would do the "they townread s_s and i think they're town, so i'm townreading s_s with zero questions asked" with is lilith
ooh you should do that with me!! if I tell you SS is town just sheep me. no questions asked!! He *could* be town here, but I still question his motives for pushing me so ehhh not TRing him!!
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:31 am

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Sheeping Andante no questions asked... flawless plan tbh, could never go wrong
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:32 am

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In post 2216, Something_Smart wrote:Also, I don't see how your objections relate to my alignment. Why am I more likely to do an innocent-sounding-but-very-leading thing as scum? You think I didn't know it was (potentially) leading, or I thought Datisi wouldn't notice?
i don't remember ari supposedly having a strong bop on you, if she even does, so what was that question actually supposed to accomplish?
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:33 am

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In post 2219, Andante wrote:Sheeping Andante no questions asked... flawless plan tbh, could never go wrong
this is the third time i'm asking you to tell me your townreads and i am wondering why do you love making it so incredibly difficult to actually work with you
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:35 am

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ok sorry that was kinda rude but the question still stands
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:37 am

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In post 2219, Andante wrote:Sheeping Andante no questions asked... flawless plan tbh, could never go wrong
shoulda done it d1
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:37 am

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In post 2217, Datisi wrote:i feel like the last few games, my read on you has not been great, so "i didn't know what he'd answer" feels weird but meh
I don't think Ari's read on me is that great either is the thing
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