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[Datisi]

are you feeling better Dats?

i am feeling slightly better still, thanks <3

okay, also a question someone should probably ask, why was andante voting s_s if she thought he was a mason?

[Aristeia]

andante not making sense is just normal andante though

[Aristeia]

I am glad you are feeling better dear <3

[Datisi]

i was hoping there would be more discussion about the things that happened, but i guess half the game is just not interested in playing lole

how sure are you andante is scum? who else do you wanna go after?

[Aristeia]

i reread andante's iso in this game and holiday dance party and i'm more conflicted than before

I want to talk to SS when he has time

[Something_Smart]

About what?

[Aristeia]

That number is dependent on a lot of factors that there's no reason to share. I have a high degree of confidence that you are the best person to kill today.

How confident are you that she flips scum here?

like I am willing to sheep you but if your confidence is not that confident I will spend a lot of time rereading and rethinking everything about this game again.

I don't feel very satsified with where my solution is atp.

[Andante]

I am very confident I am town here

[catboi]

Vote Count 3.05

Andante (2):

Something_Smart, Datisi

fireisredsir (1):

Save The Dragons

Something_Smart (1):

Andante

Enchant (1):

fireisredsir

Datisi (1):

Enchant

Not Voting (3):

hutmeil, implosion, Aristeia

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 3 is July 22 at 8:00 PM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-07-22 20:00:00)

Note:

Save The Dragons is V/LA for his wedding!!!

[Andante]

This game just feels stuck, like, ok whatever I'm the scummiest person talking, what's new?

Dragons replaced Vulture, a slot that already didn't have much, and Dragons just had the initial catch up posts, and after that basically been V/LA, I get it's a wedding, but like, that slot has done basically nothing
hutmeil refuses to do anything unless directly asked
implosion shows up every 48 hours, says a few things then leaves
Enchant is Enchant
SS is not doing anything but assuming I'm guilty till proven innocent

that just leaves Datisi and Ari, and well, statistically speking there's probably a maf in them cause maf usually has someone active, but like, I'd honestly rather leave those 2 around just cause this game will be dead

oh I forgot about fire!!

umm I'm a little surprised by how fast it went from "fire wagon!!" to not a wagon anymore, like, yeah thinking about this one it feels odd, cause it was a "strong wagon" with people going "yeah I'll vote, I just don't wanna end day 7 days early" then those people proceed to lurk for 7 days...

idk, I've tried my best and if people don't wanna play, we wanna sit at this stalemate, and just continue to do nothing, whatever. "I read andante's meta, and idk" right cause my scum range varies a whole freaking lot, but if you think scum me continues to sit here like "yo we doing anything" whatever... vote me out, have a mason die tonight, 7 alive tomorrow, yall have another mislim, and if you wanna vote out someone who's like always here, have fun with the dead village tomorrow

it's just frusrating when the only people talking at you are the ones like "yeah you're maf" whatever...

"andante only changed a lot when votes went her way" yeah cause those 3 days IRL were a lot and yall literally voted me FOR NOT BEING HERE and now all of a sudden I'm conf scum? lmao whatever. that like sums up all my thoughts on this game. I can't wait for the "lol town!andante never does this" right... town andante usually has a TOWN OF PEOPLE to talk to. we have 9 alive, but you'd never guess that by just skimming the thread. whatever

[hutmeil]

If Datisi isn’t mason he’s literally maf

Why is this?

Maf is mason hunting, they want to kill the towniest people/leaders. Datisi has been “leading” this entire game, why would scum actually WANT to kill VP over Datisi? I’m town, VP was just gonna tunnel a town and be noise, Datisi is a “voice of reason” you can’t tell me you’re not questioning why Datisi hasn’t died, yet has been “consensus TR” since the freaking start of the game, but whatever you think I’m maf, so maybe you’re not questioning why we still have Datisi alive, cause I’m “for sure maf” and thus, nothing I say is logic, so I’ll flip town, the. we completely ignore the valid thoughts I had

at this point masons not outing is only hurting us, but what do I freaking know, I’m the mafia being voted out

Mafia is mason hunting. And you want mason to out. Great.

On D1, you tried to reroute the wagon over to Mala from Peng. VP also wanted you dead the whole day. And he died N1.

On D2, you lead the wagon on Mala. Gamma's last post 1862 doesn't help you either.

VOTE: Andante

[Andante]

LOL ok this literally has to be mafia

VOTE: hutmeil

if you lim me today, whatever, please listen to this 1 read tomorrow.

[Enchant]

I will be blunt, if mafia didn't deduce masons already, they are ultranoncompetent.

[Something_Smart]

How confident are you that she flips scum here?

I don't know exactly nor would I want to share exactly, but I would say not super high.

[Aristeia]

ugh

I'll work on rereading everything then

[implosion]

VOTE: fireisredsir

I've come back around to this.

Enchant's continued posting continues to look town to me. In particular his post above this one is one I think somewhat rarely comes from scum. They're putting in sustained thread presence, and hopping votes, and I don't think scum!Enchant plays this game like that. I think they'd probably be happy to fade into the background at some point.

Andante's continued thread presence also feels town to me.

S_S is still the main other option I'm interested in but less so than fire at this point.

I can talk more about whatever if people want but yeah my motivation isn't exactly at a peak x_x

[Datisi]

i am annoyed

because the way andante's posting right now, it's seeming more like it's forced and/or calculated in certain ways that is liklier to come from scum

but i am not as certain on that as i'd want to be, especially if aristeia now doesn't think so

which sucks

[Datisi]

like, idk

i took a quick look at spring fling and it seemed like andante was much more quick to curse the people voting for her

here, she had like, negative enthusiasm of a reaction to the vote on me

then after enchant voted her, and she did the "ok fuck this dancing around masons is making the game be difficult to play", i had a bit of hope because i ALSO felt that at times

but THEN she still dips the thread, and comes back with 2334, which doesn't actually solve for anything, it's just saying that it's not fair

like if you're town!andante who's annoyed by your scumhunting being muted down by the mason issues, then i'd expect there to be some actual fire to your play after going "oh fuck this"

but instead this makes it seem like that "fuck this" bit was an excuse for not being up to standard, rather than a genuine liberation moment after which she can post freely

(i had the same vibe with the ss/dats mason thing; it seems like an excuse why she's not attacking us rather than a genuine thought because i don't see how anyone could think me/ss are masons here. but like idk how town!andante functions so i'm not taking this as a main point)

and the vote on hut is kinda ehh because like, hut is obviously never going to be here to defend himself properly, whereas i for example absolutely will be

[Aristeia]

but i am not as certain on that as i'd want to be, especially if aristeia now doesn't think so

I'm ngl but a large part of my confidence was because SS said he was confident but now he's not confident.

I find her AtE to lean more scummy than townie because most of it is about "i'm town i'm town i'm town" and not very much of it is useful to us if we actually flip her and she actually flips town because I don't understand her reads.

like her one legacy read that she wants us all to trust is hutmeil!scum? um she wasn't even voting for hutmeil before that post so like wtf is she talking about?

[Datisi]

he never said he was confident on andante being scum, actually he said like twice that he has no actual read on her via play, so i'm not sure where it's coming from

i don't have an issue with her saying she's town, it's like, that's the *only* think she says

and wrt hutmeil thing, i think she knows her town-thing is omgusing, but like. she didn't omgus me or s_s so?

[Aristeia]

I am pretty tempted to vote her but I think I want to finish doing due diligence on some of her town games first.

[fireisredsir]

im slightly townreading andante's more recent posting, maybe she was just right and i do townread her more when she's here. most of it doesn't really make sense but it feels like she has thoughts that i have no idea where they came from but they make sense to her. and there's something about that almost indignant attitude of "how can you all not see this" that just kinda rings true to me

idk i don't feel like i have anything productive to say rn but im around if anyone wants to talk

implo who do you think is scum if im town? im still pretty much on enchant + one of andante/SS (maybe leaning SS now?) but you townread two of those

[Datisi]

can you share what makes s_s town? @ari

[Aristeia]

he never said he was confident on andante being scum, actually he said like twice that he has no actual read on her via play, so i'm not sure where it's coming from

yea he said he was confident she was the best flip for today and my brain just interpreted into thinking he's confident she will flip scum >_>

[Andante]

lol ok where to start...

Why wasn't I voting hut before? well, major reason for mala maf was her just doing nothing, she flipped town, so I was like, ok... ignore the people not doing anything, then hut literally pops in immediately after I was like "hut does nothing except when talked about" and hut showed up 10 minutes after I said that to comment on that?? like, hut isn't doing anything except talk about me