Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

furtiveglance · Post Post #550 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:53 am

In post 546, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: 507 is particularly scummy from Furtive.

He states that I have 'declined' to comment on Enchant and CSF wagons. Firstly, I wasn't asked about them at that point so to use the word 'decline' is a misrep. I was simply focused elsewhere at the same and it's that simple.

He also says I haven't commented on the CSF wagon - it had 2 votes when I had caught up? Like, what?

I didn't say that people asked you to comment. I expect people to engage with the leading wagons, that's basic gameplay. CSF had 4 at one point.

froggodoggo · Post Post #551 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:54 am

Ehhh this is weird from BBT. Only announcing how furtive has been shading BBT until after furtive votes them. I don't get the concept of intentionally not saying things about someone you think is scummy after a read up on the game.

furtiveglance · Post Post #552 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:56 am

In post 549, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 479, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 205, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: furtiveglance
the more I think about his responses to me the more his play feels like a dead fish
Maybe not. This is a good vote on Furtive.
I also said this early on in my catch up, so I have clearly disliked Furtive's play from the early game. I only looked into his progression on me as it became more and more obvious that a) a potential BBT wagon was coming and b) Furtive was looking mighty opportunistic.

To call me opportunistic is laughable. What's opportunistic is silently sheeping the conftown on Enchant, which you've still never acknowledged or explained. I've led counter wagons to the confirmed's vote twice, because that's how confident I am in my scumreads. I know how I look if Enchant flips scum, or if you flip town. That's a risk. That's the opposite of opportunistic play.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #553 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:58 am

Cool.

Well, I tell you what. I'm happy to be the elim Today if you're the elim on D2 on my green flip? How about that? Because I can't be assed with the effort of defending myself in yet another fucking game.

Aisa · Post Post #554 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:01 pm

UNVOTE: BBT no longer thinking this flips scum

Acc he has a point on furtive I retract my townread there

furtiveglance · Post Post #555 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:02 pm

In post 553, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Cool.

Well, I tell you what. I'm happy to be the elim Today if you're the elim on D2 on my green flip? How about that? Because I can't be assed with the effort of defending myself in yet another fucking game.

I'll do you one better (worse).

Vote me now. GE will hop on, Dunnstral, maybe CSF or froggo. There's an appetite for it.

If you CBA to defend yourself, then what's the point in playing anyway? This is the game, you've chosen to lurk and selectively interact with the playerlist, it makes you look scummy. Do you think that's unfair?

furtiveglance · Post Post #556 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:03 pm

In post 554, Aisa wrote:UNVOTE: BBT no longer thinking this flips scum

Acc he has a point on furtive I retract my townread there

There you go, elim me today!

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #557 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:03 pm

Let's do it. A voluntary gladiate. Me vs you.

VOTE: Furtive

furtiveglance · Post Post #558 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:08 pm

In post 553, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Cool.

Well, I tell you what. I'm happy to be the elim Today if you're the elim on D2 on my green flip? How about that? Because I can't be assed with the effort of defending myself in yet another fucking game.

For anyone confusing this for towntelling, don't worry.

Town doesn't just shut down and go "I flip town, wanna bet?" when they have no more points to make. "Idc just vote me" is not a towntell. Swearing is not a towntell.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #559 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:13 pm

In post 555, furtiveglance wrote: This is the game, you've chosen to lurk and selectively interact with the playerlist, it makes you look scummy. Do you think that's unfair?

This is absolute dog shit as well. Chosen to lurk? In what world have I chosen to lurk? If I haven't been here, it's because I simply didn't have the time. I don't lurk as either alignment.

Selectively interact? I bet this could be leveled at half the players in this game. At least.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #560 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:15 pm

In post 190, furtiveglance wrote: CSF and now BBT are looking scum, I think BBT's push on Lucian is way too agressive, just looks out of place and kind of restless, agitating for someone to push.

Your CSF and BBT reads are stale as fuck. You have held them since here and shown 0 signs of reevaluating. You just paint everything from either slot as scum. As you said in your own self meta, you're tunneling.

This should be plain for anyone to see.

Also, if you're town leaning Enchant, why haven't you tried to stop the wagon?

furtiveglance · Post Post #561 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:15 pm

Ok. You never talked about Enchant or CSF, the main 2 wagons for most of the day. And when I asked you just said No. That's a choice that you've made. Why?

furtiveglance · Post Post #562 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:17 pm

In post 560, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 190, furtiveglance wrote: CSF and now BBT are looking scum, I think BBT's push on Lucian is way too agressive, just looks out of place and kind of restless, agitating for someone to push.
Your CSF and BBT reads are stale as fuck. You have held them since here and shown 0 signs of reevaluating. You just paint everything from either slot as scum. As you said in your own self meta, you're tunneling.

This should be plain for anyone to see.

Also, if you're town leaning Enchant, why haven't you tried to stop the wagon?

What do you think I'm doing right now? I'm opposing the Enchant wagon, I have done several times.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #563 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:20 pm

I don't explain myself to scum.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #564 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:21 pm

My point about the Enchant wagon is no longer valid as I noticed that it was 50% your scum reads. You could have tried to get Lucian/Hiraki off it but whatever, I'll just concede that point.

furtiveglance · Post Post #565 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:22 pm

In post 563, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I don't explain myself to scum.

Translation: My partner CSF was being voted, so I caused a distraction.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #566 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:24 pm

Pre-flip associatives are bad and you're going to look very silly.

furtiveglance · Post Post #567 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:28 pm

I'm going to bed now. Hiraki/Me/Lucian/Aisa/Froggo are the towncore, Dunnstral/Enchant/Infinity/Klick/Malakittens have done enough for a temporary townpass, BBT/CSF/GE contains the motherload of Impostors.

furtiveglance · Post Post #568 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:29 pm

In post 566, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Pre-flip associatives are bad and you're going to look very silly.

I play every game running this risk and very often end up looking silly, but it's better to be loud and wrong than agreeable with no opinions.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #569 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:30 pm

Loud and wrong it is then.

Keep shouting from the rooftops.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #570 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:57 pm

In post 507, furtiveglance wrote:I'm not sure why BBT is declining to share his thoughts about the Enchant/CSF wagons - the most likely eliminations. It's partly why I'm scumreading him, but also his interactions with froggo look like scum grilling town to me.

unsure if it it's just a playstyle thing but this is my feeling as well. it feels pretty nitpicky and a bit lamist

-simon

Infinity 324 · Post Post #571 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:58 pm

like pushing what seems like a utr with 3 days left until the deadline is not super productive

froggodoggo · Post Post #572 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:03 pm

In post 553, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Cool.

Well, I tell you what. I'm happy to be the elim Today if you're the elim on D2 on my green flip? How about that? Because I can't be assed with the effort of defending myself in yet another fucking game.

In post 563, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I don't explain myself to scum.

Not a fan of either of these. The wifom in 553 is super LAMIST, something you SR'd Lucian for, and 563 is just an awful excuse that looks like you avoiding spewing. "I don't explain myself to scum" is not something you use when you are asked to provide any thoughts on a player who you haven't given thoughts on.

froggodoggo · Post Post #573 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:04 pm

I 100% agree with limming BBT or Furtive today, I think it's pretty darn likely this is TvS. Don't know exactly how to explain it but the vibe is there.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #574 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:07 pm

i mean after the past few pages i still don't have more than a slight scumlean on BBT. still prefer csf to be honest. i guess furtive is towny for agreeing with me there (also i don't really see a reason for scum to be starting a big fight here? maybe if like enchant is a buddy. idk)