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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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That's a really interesting response. Almost every reply so far has you down as town Froggo, and I would have to agree. I wondered whether anyone would pick it up and run with it but they haven't.
Your responses felt honest and genuine, if you're scum, you have AtE'd me enough to buy yourself another Day at least. I am really surprised no-one has scum read you though.
I probably shouldn't reply so soon but I don't see it going anywhere unfortunately.
Pedit - Oh a BBT wagon so close to deadline. Shit's about to get interesting.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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Excluding Hiraki for obvious reasons.In post 504, Lucian wrote:
What would you say your 3 most confident non-froggo reads are right now? Either Town or scum.
Froggo and yourself - town reads.
Furtive - scum read.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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This describes your play all of today, does it not?In post 511, furtiveglance wrote:First thing I noticed is that they're not even voting you.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Samesies. at this point if I were scum I would've told my partners to SR me so that town doesn't get paranoid about my slot.In post 528, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I am really surprised no-one has scum read you though.-
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No. Shading me for all of D1 and not voting meIn post 537, furtiveglance wrote:Not voting froggo?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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190, 202, 301 and 342 mention you, not many of my posts, before I started explaining my read on you in earnest earlier today.In post 539, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
No. Shading me for all of D1 and not voting meIn post 537, furtiveglance wrote:Not voting froggo?
I also pushed/sussed Infinity, CSF (a lot), Dunnstral, GE and Malakittens today. You're not special.-
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In post 190, furtiveglance wrote: CSF and now BBT are looking scum, I think BBT's push on Lucian is way too agressive, just looks out of place and kind of restless, agitating for someone to push.
Talking about me ^^^In post 202, furtiveglance wrote: I've seen scum do things like this, and done it myself. Because it makes people townread you until your push flips.
In post 301, furtiveglance wrote:Things are becoming clearer now. CSF/GE/Malakittens, ft. BBT/Dunnstral on drums as SK (possibly)In post 342, furtiveglance wrote:I don't like the Enchant vote, they read more town than scum to me. I'd take a BBT vote if Hiraki is really against CSF going, but I'm feeling like CSF is scum.In post 471, furtiveglance wrote: I don't think CSF has got any townier either, still like my vote there. BBT needs to give more content. Enchant still leans town to me.In post 507, furtiveglance wrote:I'm not sure why BBT is declining to share his thoughts about the Enchant/CSF wagons - the most likely eliminations. It's partly why I'm scumreading him, but also his interactions with froggo look like scum grilling town to me.In post 508, furtiveglance wrote:I see BBT paired with CSF not Enchant - that would explain why BBT's vote for Enchant was unexplained.In post 511, furtiveglance wrote: As for BBT, they didn't sound that authentic in their reasoning and even after talking to you, they didn't finish with an update of their current thoughts, just opened it up to the floor, which doesn't convince me at all and looks like scummy indifference rather than towny zeal. First thing I noticed is that they're not even voting you.In post 512, furtiveglance wrote: Conftown is on Enchant so probably the bookies' favourite (yes I'm British), my preferred choice is CSF (or even BBT).In post 529, furtiveglance wrote:But, I prefer voting BBT to Enchant, and seeing as everyone else has moved, I will too. I wouldn't do this is CSF was close to plurality.All of Furtive's shading before finally feeling like he has the support to vote me.
Scum angling for a BBT wagon, 100%.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Because you have so few reads (me/Klick scum) so as to pair with all of my scumreads, and probe others to explain their reads without contributing much yourself.In post 541, Dunnstral wrote:Can you remind me why you suspect me-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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Also, a little something special for you all.In post 224, furtiveglance wrote: I'd say the key difference is the amount of analysis that I give (and that also depends on how invested I am in a game). If I'm scum I'll probably post more irrelevant stuff, and show little to no progression on reads. I'm also prone to tunneling as scum. This post is an example of a nothing post, I'm just talking generally about my playstyle.
Furtive self meta'd and said he tunnels as scum. He has only really pushed CSF or myself as scum, that's it. Those reads are stale as fuck.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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507 is particularly scummy from Furtive.
He states that I have 'declined' to comment on Enchant and CSF wagons. Firstly, I wasn't asked about them at that point so to use the word 'decline' is a misrep. I was simply focused elsewhere at the same and it's that simple.
He also says I haven't commented on the CSF wagon - it had 2 votes when I had caught up? Like, what?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Because I was focused on youIn post 545, froggodoggo wrote:BBT why did you wait to bring up furtive angling/shading you until now?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Before 507 you were just in my poe. From that point on I started scumreading you more, and it did feel good when others agreed. I voted you because everyone moved off CSF and I didn't want to eliminate Enchant, not for the very reason that other people voted you.In post 542, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 190, furtiveglance wrote: CSF and now BBT are looking scum, I think BBT's push on Lucian is way too agressive, just looks out of place and kind of restless, agitating for someone to push.
Talking about me ^^^In post 202, furtiveglance wrote: I've seen scum do things like this, and done it myself. Because it makes people townread you until your push flips.
In post 301, furtiveglance wrote:Things are becoming clearer now. CSF/GE/Malakittens, ft. BBT/Dunnstral on drums as SK (possibly)In post 342, furtiveglance wrote:I don't like the Enchant vote, they read more town than scum to me. I'd take a BBT vote if Hiraki is really against CSF going, but I'm feeling like CSF is scum.In post 471, furtiveglance wrote: I don't think CSF has got any townier either, still like my vote there. BBT needs to give more content. Enchant still leans town to me.In post 507, furtiveglance wrote:I'm not sure why BBT is declining to share his thoughts about the Enchant/CSF wagons - the most likely eliminations. It's partly why I'm scumreading him, but also his interactions with froggo look like scum grilling town to me.In post 508, furtiveglance wrote:I see BBT paired with CSF not Enchant - that would explain why BBT's vote for Enchant was unexplained.In post 511, furtiveglance wrote: As for BBT, they didn't sound that authentic in their reasoning and even after talking to you, they didn't finish with an update of their current thoughts, just opened it up to the floor, which doesn't convince me at all and looks like scummy indifference rather than towny zeal. First thing I noticed is that they're not even voting you.In post 512, furtiveglance wrote: Conftown is on Enchant so probably the bookies' favourite (yes I'm British), my preferred choice is CSF (or even BBT).In post 529, furtiveglance wrote:But, I prefer voting BBT to Enchant, and seeing as everyone else has moved, I will too. I wouldn't do this is CSF was close to plurality.All of Furtive's shading before finally feeling like he has the support to vote me.
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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I also said this early on in my catch up, so I have clearly disliked Furtive's play from the early game. I only looked into his progression on me as it became more and more obvious that a) a potential BBT wagon was coming and b) Furtive was looking mighty opportunistic.In post 479, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Maybe not. This is a good vote on Furtive.In post 205, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: furtiveglance
the more I think about his responses to me the more his play feels like a dead fishMeta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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