Explain a bit more why froggo's reaction to Enchant's wagon is bad? I'm not seeing it at allIn post 790, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: froggodoggo
I think this is worth trying
I wasn't vibing w him earlier and the reaction to enchant's run-up and claim seems waffly in the wrong way
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Guess I should’ve hammered while I had the chance? Had two other players encouraging it too, would’ve been insanely easy to do.In post 790, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: froggodoggo
I think this is worth trying
I wasn't vibing w him earlier and the reaction to enchant's run-up and claim seems waffly in the wrong way-
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It’s not so bad following explanation but I still feel like something is off about itIn post 800, Klick wrote:
Explain a bit more why froggo's reaction to Enchant's wagon is bad? I'm not seeing it at allIn post 790, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: froggodoggo
I think this is worth trying
I wasn't vibing w him earlier and the reaction to enchant's run-up and claim seems waffly in the wrong way
Like, the initial thought was that it felt like he was calling the wagon bad but still being cool about the claim occurring
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No I just don’t see how my reaction is scummy when I could’ve ended the day and not allowed for any of this discourse to happen.In post 804, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Sounds like you're regretting it?-
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YayIn post 807, Lucian wrote:Hello, I am awake and I will be with you shortly. Just popping in to say that I don't particularly feel like unvoting because of a Doctor claim.-
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But you didn't know that we would start sussing you more at that point.In post 806, froggodoggo wrote:
No I just don’t see how my reaction is scummy when I could’ve ended the day and not allowed for any of this discourse to happen.In post 804, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Sounds like you're regretting it?-
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Okay but that was still a risk that I was willing to take because I was more focused with making sure everyone had their say before one of us potentially dies at night.In post 809, furtiveglance wrote:
But you didn't know that we would start sussing you more at that point.In post 806, froggodoggo wrote:
No I just don’t see how my reaction is scummy when I could’ve ended the day and not allowed for any of this discourse to happen.In post 804, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Sounds like you're regretting it?-
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Like, I am still set on killing Enchant here, I am now on board with the group of people who don’t wanna be second guessing this scummy Doc who does nothing all game. By not hammering there I made that much harder on myself, but it was worth it because I get to see other players feedback and see if any big revelations happen from the claim. I think it would be unfair to end the day early but extremely beneficial to me especially if I were scum.-
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No, I'm saying if your towncase on yourself is "I could have hammered X", it only makes sense if X is town. If X is mafia, "I could have hammered mafia and didn't" isn't a towncase, it's a scumcase. See what I mean?In post 813, froggodoggo wrote:If you’re scumcasing me for a bad reaction to the Doc claim then you are also assuming Enchant is legit lol-
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OkayIn post 815, furtiveglance wrote:
No, I'm saying if your towncase on yourself is "I could have hammered X", it only makes sense if X is town. If X is mafia, "I could have hammered mafia and didn't" isn't a towncase, it's a scumcase. See what I mean?In post 813, froggodoggo wrote:If you’re scumcasing me for a bad reaction to the Doc claim then you are also assuming Enchant is legit lol-
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Because the opportunity had gone.In post 816, froggodoggo wrote:Yup, which I did. And then didn’t hammer.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Basically thisIn post 818, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Because the opportunity had gone.In post 816, froggodoggo wrote:Yup, which I did. And then didn’t hammer.
You were actively talking about hammering and then the option went away
I don't think it makes you scum really but 'I could have hammered' isn't really a valid defense-
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This is validIn post 814, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:It would also be extremely beneficial for scum!Froggo to show some hesitancy before hammering a Doc claim, no?<Embrace The Void>
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Not even that - it causes a massive amount of WIFOM from all angles. If you think about the scenarios here, this is probably the best scum play and the worst case scenario for town.In post 798, Klick wrote:Ppl going 'Doctor, no lim' without actually considering the town utility of a scummy doctor claim with no other PRs claimed and no obvious night kill
It's close to useless at the moment if true and will probably lead to us just still having Enchant on the table as an option around D4.
For scum, if town claims doc and doesn't die tonight or even if they're roleblocked, town's claim comes into question again. As scum in the same scenario, you practically play the same way. I am really trying to think of the utility that Enchant has at this point and it's near zero.
Enchant noting this is not townpoints btw.
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Literally lol'dIn post 821, Lucian wrote:Hot take, scum doesn't usually say "goddamn, I wish I had done this scummy thing when I had the chance". I'm guessing froggo is Town.-
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Do you agree or not?In post 823, Klick wrote:
Literally lol'dIn post 821, Lucian wrote:Hot take, scum doesn't usually say "goddamn, I wish I had done this scummy thing when I had the chance". I'm guessing froggo is Town.
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