Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

Alianna · Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:35 pm

2.05

Votecount 2.05

Infinity 324 (3): BlueBloodedToffee, Cat Scratch Fever, Lucian
furtiveglance (3): Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald, froggodoggo
froggodoggo (2): Hiraki, Klick
Dunnstral (1): furtiveglance

Not Voting (2): Dunnstral, Aisa

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-01 21:16:50).

froggodoggo · Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:37 pm

Hehe sorry to change votes right after the VC but i'm hopping back on Infinity. I don't feel great voting with both infinity and gamma and I'm getting scumvibes from gamma rn. Voting furtive because you get SK vibes from them is weird. Sussing furtive because they include SK in their solve is also weird. I dont think either reasoning is sufficient enough to mean anything.

VOTE: Infinity

Dunnstral · Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:43 pm

I think speculating on an sk when there was only 1 kill is foolish

We have no reason to think they can exist

Dunnstral · Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:44 pm

In post 1115, furtiveglance wrote:Basically, I'm softing Serial Killer so that we can chill on each other and vote town together.

Why did you say this though?

Dunnstral · Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:45 pm

In post 1107, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1005, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Explanation for this read progression on Enchant would be good
i explained this already right? doc claim was obviously awful and needed to be resolved at some point, and massclaim doesn't necessarily help. like if there's no other doc claim do we leave enchant alive?

Why was it obviously awful?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:48 pm

scum claims pr there 100% of the time, and doctor claim is one of the safest since there's no info you have to report and be held accountable for

Infinity 324 · Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:48 pm

In post 1124, froggodoggo wrote:huh?? if someone knows they are town that is enough reason to say anything.

i mean not really? "you voted me and i'm town therefore you're scummy" isn't really an argument

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:00 pm

In post 1126, froggodoggo wrote:Hehe sorry to change votes right after the VC but i'm hopping back on Infinity. I don't feel great voting with both infinity and gamma and I'm getting scumvibes from gamma rn. Voting furtive because you get SK vibes from them is weird. Sussing furtive because they include SK in their solve is also weird. I dont think either reasoning is sufficient enough to mean anything.

VOTE: Infinity

>:/
Why even change votes in the first place?

froggodoggo · Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:29 pm

In post 1132, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1126, froggodoggo wrote:Hehe sorry to change votes right after the VC but i'm hopping back on Infinity. I don't feel great voting with both infinity and gamma and I'm getting scumvibes from gamma rn. Voting furtive because you get SK vibes from them is weird. Sussing furtive because they include SK in their solve is also weird. I dont think either reasoning is sufficient enough to mean anything.

VOTE: Infinity
>:/
Why even change votes in the first place?

cuz i didnt actually read just saw furtive votes and got excited

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:23 pm

In post 1109, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1024, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Although based on that wagon on me that got to e-2, I'd be willing to hop on infinity
-_- do you really think you've been towny enough to say this

You mean at the time of my wagon on Day 1 or now?

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:26 pm

In post 1134, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1109, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1024, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Although based on that wagon on me that got to e-2, I'd be willing to hop on infinity
-_- do you really think you've been towny enough to say this
You mean at the time of my wagon on Day 1 or now?

When my wagon got to E-2, I don't really think I was that towny. I do townread most of the people on that wagon now.

But still, it wouldn't surprise me if scum saw a good opportunity to wagon a towny that was mentally checked out. I kind of expect it, in fact

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:26 pm

Infinity, are you scumreading me?

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:34 pm

In post 1131, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1124, froggodoggo wrote:huh?? if someone knows they are town that is enough reason to say anything.
i mean not really? "you voted me and i'm town therefore you're scummy" isn't really an argument

That isn't the only reason I suss you btw

scum RB is really strong (I think slightly more so than usual in this setup since there is a chance of rolling a town doctor and a town cop), so I think scum were hanging back and are unlikely to be in the most vocal people pushing for that wagon.

You were one of the people who stayed away from the Enchant wagon and only voiced support for his lim after it was basically a foregone conclusion

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:59 pm

In post 329, froggodoggo wrote:what's up with the enchant vote? I could be wrong but I don't see that leading us anywhere.

Why were you against a pressure wagon on Enchant?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:03 pm

In post 1133, froggodoggo wrote:
In post 1132, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1126, froggodoggo wrote:Hehe sorry to change votes right after the VC but i'm hopping back on Infinity. I don't feel great voting with both infinity and gamma and I'm getting scumvibes from gamma rn. Voting furtive because you get SK vibes from them is weird. Sussing furtive because they include SK in their solve is also weird. I dont think either reasoning is sufficient enough to mean anything.

VOTE: Infinity
>:/
Why even change votes in the first place?
cuz i didnt actually read just saw furtive votes and got excited

sus tbh

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:32 pm

eh, still kind of think froggo's town

froggodoggo · Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:58 pm

In post 1138, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 329, froggodoggo wrote:what's up with the enchant vote? I could be wrong but I don't see that leading us anywhere.
Why were you against a pressure wagon on Enchant?

didnt want to vote a lurker d1 bcuz if lurker flips town it sux

froggodoggo · Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:00 pm

if enchant were to be a green flip i would say we would have absolutely no new info rn and we would be letting mafia get a kill for free

Cat Scratch Fever · Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:16 pm

okay just finished rereading furtive's ISO too, and I still think he's town. His reason for tr'ing Enchant was kind of convoluted, but in a weird way, I can see it make sense to him. I might read some meta of his later, since Klick said that was apparently different.

I'd like to see Dunnstral and Aisa take some stances

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:47 pm

In post 1107, Infinity 324 wrote: i explained this already right? doc claim was obviously awful and needed to be resolved at some point, and massclaim doesn't necessarily help. like if there's no other doc claim do we leave enchant alive?

I don't understand why the Doc claim was obviously awful?

You also showed very little interest in elimming Enchant until it was pretty much certain that they were going to be elimmed. As well as this, you started setting up Furtive almost immediately upon an Enchant red flip.

Like, you knew Enchant was flipping red and dropped in that you need to reevaluate your Furtive read because he looks bad if scum Enchant. It all looks way too convenient.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:51 pm

In post 1108, Infinity 324 wrote: at the time i was a bit worried about the deadline and felt like the csf vote wasn't really going anywhere. figured i would try to start a wagon on someone who i felt hadn't really towntold

You were worried about the deadline? So you left a wagon/push with 3 votes on it (even though your read hadn't changed) to start pushing a brand new wagon (you were the first vote) because you were worried about the deadline?

Explain how that makes sense.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:56 pm

In post 458, froggodoggo wrote: i thought it would be later on too but /shrug, gamma wasn't being towny and i thought she would continue not to be towny

pedit: why does that post ever come from town

VOTE: furtive

Did you reevaluate that read? Tell me more about why Furtive is scum.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:58 pm

In post 1130, Infinity 324 wrote:scum claims pr there 100% of the time, and doctor claim is one of the safest since there's no info you have to report and be held accountable for

A doctor also claims doctor 100% of the time in that scenario, too.

I'm struggling to understand your 'Enchant is 100% scum because they claimed Doc' after not being interested in elimming them at all.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:02 pm

In my 1146, the quoted post is from Infinity, not Froggo. Not sure how I did that.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:34 pm

In post 1147, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 1130, Infinity 324 wrote:scum claims pr there 100% of the time, and doctor claim is one of the safest since there's no info you have to report and be held accountable for
A doctor also claims doctor 100% of the time in that scenario, too.

I'm struggling to understand your 'Enchant is 100% scum because they claimed Doc' after not being interested in elimming them at all.

I agree with this sentiment