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[Cat Scratch Fever]

HBD Alianna

Thanks!

Been waiting for this pagetop lol

[Lucian]

1196 is making me doubt my old townread on froggo even further, so consider him back on my list of suspects I guess.

Town: CSF, furtive, Gamma, BBT, Hiraki
Town-ish?: Dunn, Aisa
PoE: Infinity, Klick, froggo

The recent few posts from Aisa seemed alright.

Pedit: you're welcome!

[Cat Scratch Fever]

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[furtiveglance]

1196 is making me doubt my old townread on froggo even further, so consider him back on my list of suspects I guess.

Town: CSF, furtive, Gamma, BBT, Hiraki
Town-ish?: Dunn, Aisa
PoE: Infinity, Klick, froggo

The recent few posts from Aisa seemed alright.

Pedit: you're welcome!

Can you move me down to Town-ish? I don't want to be nightkilled.

[furtiveglance]

I'll scumcase Dunnstral when I come back in about an hour.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ugh, okay. 1116 is giving me bad vibes. It's like scum!Infinity was obviously angling towards voting furtive, and was looking for a trigger to vote furtive to make their vote seem more natural and Townie. Except the trigger doesn't make sense because "lol I'm softing SK" is a post that's obviously a joke because it's doesn't make sense from either Town or scum. So reading "how does that come from Town" feels disingenuous.

I do think furtive has pretty bad associates with Enchant, but they seem so shitposty and carefree and just doing their thing that I don't think they're the most likely scum here.

@furtive, have you ever elaborated on your Dunn read/vote? If not, can you?

“Shitposty and carefree” in not how I’d describe furtive rn

[Gamma Emerald]

1196 is making me doubt my old townread on froggo even further, so consider him back on my list of suspects I guess.

Town: CSF, furtive, Gamma, BBT, Hiraki
Town-ish?: Dunn, Aisa
PoE: Infinity, Klick, froggo

The recent few posts from Aisa seemed alright.

Pedit: you're welcome!

Can you move me down to Town-ish? I don't want to be nightkilled.

vrej

[furtiveglance]

Dunnstral's voting record is Klick and Malakittens, both yesterday. From what I gathered of their actual reads, they've sussed Lucian once and me twice. I have no idea who they think is mafia right now, they aren't voting, just making really pointless reads like BBT/Froggo aren't paired.

[Dunnstral]

It took you an hour and that's what you came back with?

[furtiveglance]

No, I went out for an hour and then looked at your 48 post ISO for a few minutes. I would've quoted but I didn't find much of note.

Who are your scumreads?

[Dunnstral]

Running to work right now, Infinity looks towny to me and I don't have time to get into why. Last page or two of Infinity content was really good though and I'm surprised people aren't seeing it themselves. I'm beginning to lean town on Dunn, which concerns me because unless it's like exactly froggo/BBT then I think I've gone wrong somewhere.

I find myself agreeing with a lot of what BBT is saying which makes me think they are town, that and I still feel that he does not feel paired with Froggo

[Dunnstral]

@furtive, have you ever elaborated on your Dunn read/vote? If not, can you?

I'll scumcase Dunnstral when I come back in about an hour.

Dunnstral's voting record is Klick and Malakittens, both yesterday. From what I gathered of their actual reads, they've sussed Lucian once and me twice. I have no idea who they think is mafia right now, they aren't voting, just making really pointless reads like BBT/Froggo aren't paired.

No, I went out for an hour and then looked at your 48 post ISO for a few minutes. I would've quoted but I didn't find much of note.

Who are your scumreads?

Is this the progression of what you were doing? I take issue with you calling me scum and then looking for reasons why afterwards.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Dunn, you think both Infinity and Froggo can be scum together?

[furtiveglance]

@furtive, have you ever elaborated on your Dunn read/vote? If not, can you?

I'll scumcase Dunnstral when I come back in about an hour.

Dunnstral's voting record is Klick and Malakittens, both yesterday. From what I gathered of their actual reads, they've sussed Lucian once and me twice. I have no idea who they think is mafia right now, they aren't voting, just making really pointless reads like BBT/Froggo aren't paired.

No, I went out for an hour and then looked at your 48 post ISO for a few minutes. I would've quoted but I didn't find much of note.

Who are your scumreads?

Is this the progression of what you were doing? I take issue with you calling me scum and then looking for reasons why afterwards.

I thought of you as scum before, because I remembered you not doing anything.

[Hiraki]

I don’t feel like this table would provoke him to try to look town early so I feel good about my initial TR there

Not sure if I'm following what you're putting down.

I do think my Townread on froggo did go down quite a bit. The "damn I should've hammered!" read I had yesterday is probably not that Townie, considering Enchant did flip scum.

froggo also fits in the group of players that didn't vote Enchant up to claim, but did vote him after the claim.

True but I had intent to put Enchant at E-1 until furtive beat me to it

New term: Intent to E-1.

That's not a thing LMFAO

It is a thing but it's a very dumb thing, agreed.

Someone vote this guy off with me. I made all these posts with valuable information and they pinpoint one little thing and try to make me look bad because of it. No thoughts on anything else I've just put out??

Pedit don't remember exactly but I would imagine I wanted Enchant to start playing the game already and wanted to give them 6 hours to change my mind. I think I felt bad for em

Please tell me this slot has been run up now.

I think this slot is the reason why Mala is killed btw.

Infinity is today's elim. Don't let them out of the spotlight by creating a distraction.

I don't think this slot is too good anymore. Can you guide me in the right direction? I don't think a lurker elim is great for today but I've seen worse.

Infinity

nvm no shot of me trying for this slot today

Explanation for this read progression on Enchant would be good

i explained this already right? doc claim was obviously awful and needed to be resolved at some point, and massclaim doesn't necessarily help. like if there's no other doc claim do we leave enchant alive?

I agree with this.

scum claims pr there 100% of the time, and doctor claim is one of the safest since there's no info you have to report and be held accountable for

A doctor also claims doctor 100% of the time in that scenario, too.

I'm struggling to understand your 'Enchant is 100% scum because they claimed Doc' after not being interested in elimming them at all.

I agree with this sentiment

I need to re-read this if true and would be willing to change my vote, begrudgingly, if so.

In terms of what I wanna see, Hiraki’s thoughts is a leading thought, I’d also like some more thought from Dunn as he actually feels rather reactive currently, and Aisa I don’t feel like has been v present today.

i think my thoughts for today are very clear

Is it possible I’m just misreading froggo here? Oh totally but it’s the best I have at this very point in time

you are not and I hope I do not try hard after this

Is this really a s/s interaction? I feel like something along these lines would be much more likely to go into a PT if genuine?

I've seen it more often than not that scum will do this to try and look genuine without the PT.

This is poor reaosning for avoiding the Enchant wagon.

Oh you're SO CLOSE here BBT. Who was the KILL tonight?

Mala had LITERALLY nothing. It's a literal nothing slot. Nothing happened, nothing said, NOTHING. And that's the kill? Okay - where do we go from there?

I'm not dead which means that I'm supposed to think "huh, I'm alive because scum thinks I'm going to cause more errors" - which is pretty illogical for a few reasons.

1) I already got the first scum. Even if I start screwing up (possible), town already has a huge lead right now. Even with an SK, we have a few miselims (not calculating) and a lot of time to screw it up.
2) I don't WIFOM. I really don't like to rethink my logic unless I have a bad feeling about it and I really don't right now. Froggo has been doing this weird stuff solely with furtive and Enchant. Enchant was more of a "let me into your thoughts" situation while furtive is a hostile environment with very little to no thought of changing. It's classic scumplay here. I would even go to the point that when froggo flips red, furtive should be honorary IC - but I won't go that far.

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, you think both Infinity and Froggo can be scum together?

I have both low in my reads but have not thought about this. I see that Froggo is voting for Infinity right now which would be bold if they were scum together. So I am leaning towards no that doesn't seem likely. Actually other than that there isn't anything that makes me think they're not scum together, so maybe this is too shallow.

[furtiveglance]

I see that my vote on Dunnstral is doing nothing, so I'll move to froggo.

VOTE: Froggo

[furtiveglance]

Hiraki is promising me locktown if this flips red, so I need to at least vote this.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

They both sat on my wagon pretty much all of D1. Do you think both scum co-ordinate and sit together like that?

[Hiraki]

They both sat on my wagon pretty much all of D1. Do you think both scum co-ordinate and sit together like that?

yes????????????????????????

[Gamma Emerald]

Not sure if I'm following what you're putting down.

he has a pretty lowkey scumgame early except for games where the playerlist's average skill level dictates increased effort

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