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Where was this btwIn post 718, Seanzie wrote:
It was actually explained once someone asked, thanks though;)In post 712, Gamma Emerald wrote:
As I called out before: this was never explained and comes across as an early-game distancing voted given the short-lived nature of it and aforementioned lack of reasoning.In post 46, Seanzie wrote:Kinda surprised no one called out my "hmmm..." post as suspicious.
Anyways, VOTE: Galron. This is a non-RVS vote.<Embrace The Void>
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I think it was but I completely forgot where.In post 751, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Where was this btwIn post 718, Seanzie wrote:
It was actually explained once someone asked, thanks though;)In post 712, Gamma Emerald wrote:
As I called out before: this was never explained and comes across as an early-game distancing voted given the short-lived nature of it and aforementioned lack of reasoning.In post 46, Seanzie wrote:Kinda surprised no one called out my "hmmm..." post as suspicious.
Anyways, VOTE: Galron. This is a non-RVS vote.-
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Before I start reading thru D1 closely I’ll establish what pre-flip assumptions I’m making
Gamma Emerald as town: aside from the fact this is from my POV, I think Galron’s frustrations with me were not that of a partner being bussed but that of scum mad they got caught in the low-info early game. I have been that salty scum before, mostly in chat mafia games on Pokémon Showdown back when I played there. My Galron push also only really makes sense from an uninformed POV.
Malakittens as town: she wasn’t as committed to pushing Galron but he tried to shade her with beetlejuicing accusations in the same breath he tried it with me. I also greatly doubt he’s gonna be the type of scum to position buddies in tactical manners like I tend to do based on well, *waves at Galron’s play this game as a whole*. So I wholly believe Galron was in for a penny, in for a pound by shading me and Mala there.
T3 as town: the only point of doubt would be that he came in and kinda felt like he was taking point by opting to push Galron soon after replacing in but his play as a whole feels genuine, it feels along the lines of the sort of moon-logic solving I think embodies his towngame.<Embrace The Void>
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Having reread through the Seanzie/Gamma interaction, I think that Gamma comes off worse? Some of Seanzie’s points are actually valid, and Gamma’s defending feels a lot more than upset scum than upset town.
At the same time, I just can’t really bring myself to scumread Gamma. I don’t think that his push on Galron was fake, based on what other people have said.-
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Yeah, I’m not comfortable wagoning Seanzie or Gamma right now.In post 754, redcardinal wrote:eiralox and gamma are scummy as fuck right now, aside from that I want to know what's going on with KT today bc crescent and I both saw scum/scum kt/galron, and crescent's fuckin dead so
VOTE: KT
I don’t think Eiralox is necessarily scum for their naked vote on Seanzie and their refusal to explain, but their explanation will very much affect my read of them.-
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seanzie i've felt was town for a long time & it seemed like they had fully natural townie impulses that led them into the argument. gamma i don't know how i end up on; it seems like she is really convinced she ought to seem town from d1, which seems to drive her activity today, but knowing her it's pretty possible she ends up feeling that way while not being town. i still kind of don't get why she brought up the galron post in 514, like theres a baseline weirdness of quoting a specific post that (as far as you know) isn't relevant to what is going on. allow me to demonstrate:In post 736, T3 wrote:What do you think about the Gamma/Seanzie interaction?
interesting vote ...
anyway it would make sense conceptually that she sees the claim and starts to iso galron about it, but in that case i think she would maybe say something to that effect when questioned about the post instead of just swatting it away as misrepresentative. anyway i don't really lend a lot of credence to this sort of thing in general but thats what im thinking. yes there's a pretty compelling amount of cross talk btwn her and galron that seems a bit unaligned, and i guess she pushed him a lot and stuff-
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cardinals post count is quite high. cool!-
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I've come around to removing Gamma and Mala from my scum pool based solely on the flip. Seanzie and red cardinal are actually there for me as well:
I think Seanzie was passionate about their bad read on me and probably on Gamma too. I believe Seanzie's passion caused them to become tunneled and miss Gamma's post where Gamma answered Seanzie's question. I believe scum!Seanzie would be less passionate and therefore less tunneled, causing them to notice Gamma's post and react emotionally to it. Seanzie doesn't react to Gamma's post, which I'm reading as AI.In post 743, Seanzie wrote:Granted when looking for this post, I did see that you actually responded to UDKG's post there saying she was preflipping Galron town, which does actually kind of give me pause on the whole "genuine" thing. I'll think on it.
VOTE: Haschel
Haschel is my best guess for scum:
In post 260, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
If anything this is a reasonIn post 205, Eiralox wrote:lol i warn u not to push me, i can get like a badger.topush you.
Not a huge fan of how your take on Galron is basically "Galron is a land of contrasts", btw.
Gamma, you want to elaborate on why Seanzie is in your proposed scumtrio?
In 392 Haschel is trying to pocket red cardinal by pumping them up and creating an Us vs Them narrative. Haschel is also setting up for a potential vote change onto Crescent. I think Haschel's behavior here is AI as scum and their communication with red cardinal indicates red cardinal is town.In post 392, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
Very similar to yours; in fact your post 379 sums it up perfectly. The interactions between Crescent and Garlon are why I was pressing Garlon about Crescent in the first place.In post 354, redcardinal wrote:In post 144, redcardinal wrote:what are your thoughts on crescent haschel?
Now, Crescent's post here:
...is exactly the sort of thing I enjoy because I play that way, so I'm certainly willing to see where Crescent is going with all this for now. But if she believes the wagon on Garlon is suspicious, then I certainly hope she increases the pressure because right now for all her talk it's not as much as I would prefer to see.I'm a pot stirrer, and my primary drive is to gather data because that is how I function. I think these votes need to be pressured sooner rather than later because it gives us the most accurate data, and doing it day 2 after a flip and 48+ hours to think dilutes the results.
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But also one of the biggest reasons I barely vote is most people are so vote happy that I find my general lack of voting helps add balance to the game. I don't believe I need to place a vote to pressure someone, and I will dog people who dodge my questions.
There's even more to note from 392:
Haschel is implying they think Crescent might be a greattownplayer. Remember that Crescent is describing scumhunting tactics when Haschel implies Crescent said a lot of good things. I think Haschel is most likely out of all of us to nightkill Crescent out of respect for their Town game, despite what they say later:
I think 673 is a hard scum tell for commenting about the night kill without providing any actual analysis. I believe it's even worse in light of 392 where Haschel indicates an implied awareness and respect for Crescent's scumhunting tactics.In post 673, Haschel Cedricson wrote:The Crescent kill is an odd one, tbh; I was expecting to start pressuring her based on the Galron flip and I assume redcardinal was going to do the same,-
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In post 690, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Actually I do want this explained, what seemed “emotionally driven” about the Galron wagon?In post 342, UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri wrote:The wagon looks emotionally driven and the slot has attracted a lot of unwanted negative attention to itself.
Observe:
In post 87, Gamma Emerald wrote:Anyway we got like 5-6 pages to yeet Galron in order to get a faster scum yeet than in Tarot uPickIn post 89, Gamma Emerald wrote:marcistar got caught really fast for being deer-caught-in-the-headlights scumIn post 91, Gamma Emerald wrote:No I’m just really high on my own supply-
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In post 90, schadd_ wrote:
are you like bussing or somethingIn post 87, Gamma Emerald wrote:Anyway we got like 5-6 pages to yeet Galron in order to get a faster scum yeet than in Tarot uPickIn post 322, schadd_ wrote:t3 entrance a little bit towny
had kinda the same thought but i'm less willing to read town into it. was really weirded out by her being so fired up abt galron. well i guess thats just already what youre sayingIn post 294, Crescent wrote:I've never seen Gamma play with this kind of sustained bloodlust before and it's jarring to me.
Oddly though, it doesn't really scumping me. Gamma kinda doesn't strike me as the kind of scum player to try to murder off someone 3 pages into a game. Feel free to correct me if this is wrong, but this very much feels like town-tunnelvision to me. I constantly make associations the way Gamma currently is when I'm scumpinged on someone as hard as they seem to be on Galron.In post 327, schadd_ wrote:
ohhh its just like you think theyre not town or whatever. because of the postsIn post 325, Gamma Emerald wrote:if you'd like I can dig deep into why this galron yeet is so important for me
that might help you understand my town pov better
ngl this seems like excessive resistance to just accepting me being townIn post 330, schadd_ wrote:well i guess if youre telling the truth it requires a town pov!<Embrace The Void>
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why would i have to accept that youre town on d1 of all days-
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I assure you, while there was some underlying emotional scars that needed to be put to bed, my desire to kill Galron was primarily driven by SCIENCE!In post 760, UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri wrote:In post 690, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Actually I do want this explained, what seemed “emotionally driven” about the Galron wagon?In post 342, UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri wrote:The wagon looks emotionally driven and the slot has attracted a lot of unwanted negative attention to itself.
Observe:
In post 87, Gamma Emerald wrote:Anyway we got like 5-6 pages to yeet Galron in order to get a faster scum yeet than in Tarot uPickIn post 89, Gamma Emerald wrote:marcistar got caught really fast for being deer-caught-in-the-headlights scumIn post 91, Gamma Emerald wrote:No I’m just really high on my own supply
But tbf that’s a fair enough explanation<Embrace The Void>
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You’re continuing to refuse to accept it even now thoIn post 762, schadd_ wrote:why would i have to accept that youre town on d1 of all days<Embrace The Void>
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i guess i should say i continue to not really think the thing about the personal tells about galron holds a lot of water-
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yeah i dont think its a sure bet. i dont know why you quoted day 1 postsIn post 764, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You’re continuing to refuse to accept it even now tho :DIn post 762, schadd_ wrote:why would i have to accept that youre town on d1 of all days-
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Because I was rereading Day 1 and noticed a trend from you of trying to provide some angle where I’m scum hereIn post 766, schadd_ wrote:
yeah i dont think its a sure bet. i dont know why you quoted day 1 postsIn post 764, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You’re continuing to refuse to accept it even now thoIn post 762, schadd_ wrote:why would i have to accept that youre town on d1 of all days<Embrace The Void>
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you mean like thinking critically about a slot i had at that time no particular reason to believe was town-
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i mean you have to admit that like there's no reason in particular for anybody to accept that you have to be town in order to make a simple statement "there was some tell that somebody in a different game had regarding galron and now i'm thinking about it this game". the fact that you seem to think so is compelling though. in fact in order to believe you're mafia this game one has to accept that you've made a boatload of simple but brazen statements that come in the form of "this thing is a surefire sign that i'm town" and i think those are generally things made by town. idk if you've shown that you do that as mafia, i don't think many people do-
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I find this assertion outlandish. You mean to tell me nothing in my play townpinged you?In post 768, schadd_ wrote:you mean like thinking critically about a slot i had at that time no particular reason to believe was town<Embrace The Void>
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Oh my god broIn post 771, schadd_ wrote:i mean you have to admit that like there's no reason in particular for anybody to accept that you have to be town in order to make a simple statement "there was some tell that somebody in a different game had regarding galron and now i'm thinking about it this game". the fact that you seem to think so is compelling though. in fact in order to believe you're mafia this game one has to accept that you've made a boatload of simple but brazen statements that come in the form of "this thing is a surefire sign that i'm town" and i think those are generally things made by town. idk if you've shown that you do that as mafia, i don't think many people do
Galron WAS NOT in the game that I have been referencing. HOW THICK IS YOUR SKULL DUDE?<Embrace The Void>
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