In post 695, scamper wrote:i dont actually know how to explain this without meta, which i have been trying to avoid
but this is town!ari, i have seen town!ari act in exactly this way on multiple occasions. ari cares too much and she gets worked up about the game and blows up when she thinks someone is playing badly. none of the way she's played this game is how she plays as scum
And yet you are acting like this should be obvious public knowledge? That's my impression from how you have treated this issue with Done and me.
If you are basing this off of personal experience it seems both unfair and unlikely you would try and assume that same kind of conclusion could be made by another.
I recall a recent game pretty vividly where Ari posted stuff like what she did here as town
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
In post 230, Aristeia wrote:she's playing by the philosophy of "post things to avoid death"
Hey, not true I'm used to play 1 irl day phase so this 9 player stuff means I can just kick back and take my time and not have to worry about anything. It's quite a nice change of pace. Although, I do miss the instant results of finding out if I'm correct read wise. My only real strong TR atm is the replacement and Done
Don and Galron are weaker slots atp, why did you TR them?
In post 300, Datisi wrote:meg is still townie. the wiki link was funny but i also find it townie. it doesn't win favours it doesn't "look" townie but it's showing a thought process.
ari is also lowkey townie. the agruing with xayah doesn't do much for her position in game which like. idk why scum!her would care kinda. yes this is directly going against what i said earlier about their convo, fight me
every other slot feels muddy
ama
Interesting, i think he's town as well. The content of his posts arent what convinces me, but rather i think the scum have a stranglehold on the conversation and someone as inactive as him wouldnt be able to manipulate the discourse as much as it has been manipulated. The days are going agonizingly slowly and nothings getting done, even though there have been many opportunities for cross examination and wagons.
Which brings me to the point that of the 3 most active users, meaning ari, you and ausuka, one of you is almost certainly scum. The reason i didnt include xayah is she seems to distanced from the general discourse and seems to be doing her own thing.
who is "he"?
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
In post 300, Datisi wrote:meg is still townie. the wiki link was funny but i also find it townie. it doesn't win favours it doesn't "look" townie but it's showing a thought process.
ari is also lowkey townie. the agruing with xayah doesn't do much for her position in game which like. idk why scum!her would care kinda. yes this is directly going against what i said earlier about their convo, fight me
every other slot feels muddy
ama
Interesting, i think he's town as well. The content of his posts arent what convinces me, but rather i think the scum have a stranglehold on the conversation and someone as inactive as him wouldnt be able to manipulate the discourse as much as it has been manipulated. The days are going agonizingly slowly and nothings getting done, even though there have been many opportunities for cross examination and wagons.
Which brings me to the point that of the 3 most active users, meaning ari, you and ausuka, one of you is almost certainly scum. The reason i didnt include xayah is she seems to distanced from the general discourse and seems to be doing her own thing.
who is "he"?
Meg
Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
Formerly Dongempire
I am going to ignore you for the time being. Perhaps we can continue this delightful discussion later!
>:/
Meg did this shit twice now, with Ari and with scamper
Meh, i dont think its scum indicative. Scamper was calling him obtuse, gross, disgusting etc. I'd rather have less discussion than have a unneccesary spat because of a game.
Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
Formerly Dongempire
now the game is over I can talk about why I think dats is town here
I can elaborate more I guess but basically it's that I really thought he might be pocketing me even though I liked his posts in that game
Because he townread my miller claim kinda point blank and he agreed with my pushes and was townreading me from the start. I think other people said he might be pocketing me a few times as well
But he was town in that game, so like idk I think we might just be similar players on a vibes level and that's why he can read me and we often have similar views? Does that make sense?
No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.
uh so yeah a game just ended where ausuka was miller and was more or less universally townread through the game, which is why the claim was kind of odd
i was scum in tha game which put me in a awkward position here because i didn't want to spew myself scum in the other game with how i handled the claim or anything, which is why i withheld comment (probably a comment on the dangers of multitabling with player crossover, but the game looked fun and i couldn't resist joining)
sio from that pov i *get* why ari was paranoid of ausuka's claim, that it could be, i dunno, some audacious play as scum but it would still beweird to me to claim miller in a game with a few crossover players, in the hopes they'll townread it ig?
so i'd rather just read ausuka on play and i think from when she was arguing with ari about the claim and getting annoyed at the scumread from ari and calling it a push it was townie
In post 912, Ausuka wrote:now the game is over I can talk about why I think dats is town here
I can elaborate more I guess but basically it's that I really thought he might be pocketing me even though I liked his posts in that game
Because he townread my miller claim kinda point blank and he agreed with my pushes and was townreading me from the start. I think other people said he might be pocketing me a few times as well
But he was town in that game, so like idk I think we might just be similar players on a vibes level and that's why he can read me and we often have similar views? Does that make sense?
I don't know how much I agree with that reasoning. I think he responded to the Miller claim in the way that would be expected of him as town, which could just mean he's town, but there's a sort of... unspoken sharing of secret knowledge there that kind of creates a bond, you know? It isn't something that inherently has an malignant motivation behind it (I kind of responded in a similar way), but it is an excellent way to create a pocket in the early game, even if it's unintentional or a benign one.
That specifically was what made me worry about Datisi. I could easily see him as scum using that little interaction to get on your side early and then continue to share similar views with you in a way that would remind you of your previous game. I don't think I'm
that
worried about it anymore, at least for now, but I would personally caution against townreading him for that here.
hold on i wanna give my thoughts on the miller stuff before we do
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 182, Coral wrote:It's not that there's anything inherently wrong, but the manner in which you did it feels awkward. In one sentence you express 3 different opinions on Phoenix: "I think Phoenix is fine (now do they deserve the amount of TR's they have that's another topic) but I disagree with this being a reason to TR them". It feels like you are defending Phoenix, while also scrutinizing reasons for TRing them, while also misreading the gamestate as overly townreading them, while also vaguely criticizing all of those TRs (which don't exist) without going into why.
In the second post: Hm, alright I'm willing to go along with this read for now. I didn't really catch on how much Pho was becoming a common wolfread. But they're not really in my "I would vote today" tier anyway.", you accept my townread, accept that they are being scumread more than you realized, and then for some reason feel the need to emphasize that you don't actually want to vote them?
It feels over-explained, I guess. Like you feel some need to make sure you have the right thoughts put out there on this slot even if they don't quite fit into the context of what's being discussed. My instinctive reaction is actually that it feels partnered, but I'm not really sure if I buy into that, so for now I'll just stick with thinking that it feels off.
Remembering this post has me excited about the idea of Galron/Xayah
i townread miller claims bc i've never seen scum claim miller so even if they theoretically could do so, it's more likely they didn't imho
it's a good starting point at least
and i often do come across as pockety towards the players i townread. spoiler alert it is because i AM pocketing them. i do want my townreads to townread me.
i am not a fan of that coral post regarding my possible intentions behind my actions w ausuka, but i'll think about it later i'm tired rn
or never if i/she die tonight
anyway yeah ok that's that
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
