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[Irrelephant11]

Official Vote Count 2.01

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elimination

With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to bring to a boil.

Xayah

(2): Ausuka, MegAzumarill

MegAzumarill

(1): Datisi

Not Voting

(4): Coral, Gamma Emerald, scamper, Xayah

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-08-10 17:26:26).

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[Coral]

i feel like it's meg because their play kind of just *fits* with what i'd assume buddy-with-galron would be doing. his slot started getting negative attention pretty early on in the game. your partner going down d1 is bad, in a micro normal it's Bad because you could just get fucked over with tprs. but i don't think there was anything to actually townread galron *on*, so what do you do? you hope for distractions. you stir up shit and hope people go to other slots. and i'm reminded now that meg did that both with ari in ausuka/ari, and with scamper.

this usually wouldn't be an issue by itself, but the fact that the arguments they've made about those two were not very good and were consistently getting called out as not very good and just kinda feel inflammatory is hm.

like, i guESS it's possible the partner was just not here and/or not doing anything to stop the wagon but i feel like it's somewhat unlikely both scum just decided to flop because. idk because the universe doesn't like me that much.

I think this is a decent argument for Meg and I should probably be considering them more than I am. I'll do some re-reading, I suppose. I guess I just have felt like I can see the town thought process behind their posts consistently, so I haven't really ever had a reason to look further than that. I do agree that the positioning is where a scum could choose to sit.

[Xayah]

Sorry had no internet access for like the last few days while I went hiking. I'll be rereading Ph0 iso but gut suspects are in Meg/Coral

[Xayah]

I think the main issues I have with Meg/Coral are poral opposites in playstyle but still fit the objective of a wolf. Meg's main pushes were...well not in Ph0/gals direction and the main focus seemed to be Ari and just being a loud voice in the thread to distract from their partner.

I'm not interested in sending the rep today. Both wagons going currently are pretty good and I'd compromise to a galron lim if time comes to it.

The other posts about the scum slot? Nothing in regards to Ph0 and saying "I forget Galron exists" next is just a vote on the slot near NoD it's honestly such blatantly scum partner interaction that it makes me pause because I'd like to assume a partner would at least try to have better interactions then this but on a textbook case? Yeah we get left with this.

Corals early defense of Ph0 when they were under pressure and I had to ask them about it still rubs me the wrong way. Of course, you can be wrong and simply townread a villager but I just disagreed with the method Coral did it. I mean I thought Dati/Aus had to have one but I mistook it with familiarly over TMI (woo how fun ty for explaining that to me could've avoided this mess)

They had Galron in "I would kinda let them go"/shade tier and on paper it's a better look then Meg. So for now, I'm okay with placing my vote down.

VOTE: Meg

[MegAzumarill]

I think the main issues I have with Meg/Coral are poral opposites in playstyle but still fit the objective of a wolf. Meg's main pushes were...well not in Ph0/gals direction and the main focus seemed to be Ari and just being a loud voice in the thread to distract from their partner.

I'm not interested in sending the rep today. Both wagons going currently are pretty good and I'd compromise to a galron lim if time comes to it.

The other posts about the scum slot? Nothing in regards to Ph0 and saying "I forget Galron exists" next is just a vote on the slot near NoD it's honestly such blatantly scum partner interaction that it makes me pause because I'd like to assume a partner would at least try to have better interactions then this but on a textbook case? Yeah we get left with this.

Corals early defense of Ph0 when they were under pressure and I had to ask them about it still rubs me the wrong way. Of course, you can be wrong and simply townread a villager but I just disagreed with the method Coral did it. I mean I thought Dati/Aus had to have one but I mistook it with familiarly over TMI (woo how fun ty for explaining that to me could've avoided this mess)

They had Galron in "I would kinda let them go"/shade tier and on paper it's a better look then Meg. So for now, I'm okay with placing my vote down.

VOTE: Meg

Interested in why you think Coral's play is scum indicative

[Xayah]

scamper feels good and GE is just a villager if I'm missing a blindspot it's on Datisi but I don't ever see a world where I'm alive with Datisi long enough to make that choice so I'm not gonna worry about that right now.

[Xayah]

I think the main issues I have with Meg/Coral are poral opposites in playstyle but still fit the objective of a wolf. Meg's main pushes were...well not in Ph0/gals direction and the main focus seemed to be Ari and just being a loud voice in the thread to distract from their partner.

I'm not interested in sending the rep today. Both wagons going currently are pretty good and I'd compromise to a galron lim if time comes to it.

The other posts about the scum slot? Nothing in regards to Ph0 and saying "I forget Galron exists" next is just a vote on the slot near NoD it's honestly such blatantly scum partner interaction that it makes me pause because I'd like to assume a partner would at least try to have better interactions then this but on a textbook case? Yeah we get left with this.

Corals early defense of Ph0 when they were under pressure and I had to ask them about it still rubs me the wrong way. Of course, you can be wrong and simply townread a villager but I just disagreed with the method Coral did it. I mean I thought Dati/Aus had to have one but I mistook it with familiarly over TMI (woo how fun ty for explaining that to me could've avoided this mess)

They had Galron in "I would kinda let them go"/shade tier and on paper it's a better look then Meg. So for now, I'm okay with placing my vote down.

VOTE: Meg

Interested in why you think Coral's play is scum indicative

I think her play around the wolfslot and defense of it feels different then a lot of the other players as in. Like there's an in-deph defense of Ph0 that she hangs onto but when Gal replaces in it just goes to "meh" like the downgrade is wolfy and you don't wanna hold onto that so much.

There is no mention of Coral in Gal's iso and Ph0 questions why Coral is in a wolfy list then puts her as the second strongest wolfread after me it's odd. I don't get that odd feeling in regards to other slots.

[MegAzumarill]

I think the main issues I have with Meg/Coral are poral opposites in playstyle but still fit the objective of a wolf. Meg's main pushes were...well not in Ph0/gals direction and the main focus seemed to be Ari and just being a loud voice in the thread to distract from their partner.

I'm not interested in sending the rep today. Both wagons going currently are pretty good and I'd compromise to a galron lim if time comes to it.

The other posts about the scum slot? Nothing in regards to Ph0 and saying "I forget Galron exists" next is just a vote on the slot near NoD it's honestly such blatantly scum partner interaction that it makes me pause because I'd like to assume a partner would at least try to have better interactions then this but on a textbook case? Yeah we get left with this.

Corals early defense of Ph0 when they were under pressure and I had to ask them about it still rubs me the wrong way. Of course, you can be wrong and simply townread a villager but I just disagreed with the method Coral did it. I mean I thought Dati/Aus had to have one but I mistook it with familiarly over TMI (woo how fun ty for explaining that to me could've avoided this mess)

They had Galron in "I would kinda let them go"/shade tier and on paper it's a better look then Meg. So for now, I'm okay with placing my vote down.

VOTE: Meg

Interested in why you think Coral's play is scum indicative

I think her play around the wolfslot and defense of it feels different then a lot of the other players as in. Like there's an in-deph defense of Ph0 that she hangs onto but when Gal replaces in it just goes to "meh" like the downgrade is wolfy and you don't wanna hold onto that so much.

There is no mention of Coral in Gal's iso and Ph0 questions why Coral is in a wolfy list then puts her as the second strongest wolfread after me it's odd. I don't get that odd feeling in regards to other slots.

I feel like that downgrade would be more town indicative since it correlates to a drop in the amount of content rather than ot being from a partnership itself.

[Xayah]

I don't see much reason to defend myself given Gamma is using meta that is over a year old and Ausuka is just biased. Of course, I'd like to imagine I wouldn't get caught so easily given how easy it is to wolf on this site and how to come across as a villager to people but ya never know. As long as the Elims are me Meg Coral game ends so shrug.jpg

(Well I need to read Dat more but give me a bit on that)

[Xayah]

I think the main issues I have with Meg/Coral are poral opposites in playstyle but still fit the objective of a wolf. Meg's main pushes were...well not in Ph0/gals direction and the main focus seemed to be Ari and just being a loud voice in the thread to distract from their partner.

I'm not interested in sending the rep today. Both wagons going currently are pretty good and I'd compromise to a galron lim if time comes to it.

The other posts about the scum slot? Nothing in regards to Ph0 and saying "I forget Galron exists" next is just a vote on the slot near NoD it's honestly such blatantly scum partner interaction that it makes me pause because I'd like to assume a partner would at least try to have better interactions then this but on a textbook case? Yeah we get left with this.

Corals early defense of Ph0 when they were under pressure and I had to ask them about it still rubs me the wrong way. Of course, you can be wrong and simply townread a villager but I just disagreed with the method Coral did it. I mean I thought Dati/Aus had to have one but I mistook it with familiarly over TMI (woo how fun ty for explaining that to me could've avoided this mess)

They had Galron in "I would kinda let them go"/shade tier and on paper it's a better look then Meg. So for now, I'm okay with placing my vote down.

VOTE: Meg

Interested in why you think Coral's play is scum indicative

I think her play around the wolfslot and defense of it feels different then a lot of the other players as in. Like there's an in-deph defense of Ph0 that she hangs onto but when Gal replaces in it just goes to "meh" like the downgrade is wolfy and you don't wanna hold onto that so much.

There is no mention of Coral in Gal's iso and Ph0 questions why Coral is in a wolfy list then puts her as the second strongest wolfread after me it's odd. I don't get that odd feeling in regards to other slots.

I feel like that downgrade would be more town indicative since it correlates to a drop in the amount of content rather than ot being from a partnership itself.

If I had a townread with the amount of confidence Coral was showing I wouldn't drop someone to villager to "shades half the game being ok with going over" just because of a replace in but that's just me.

[Coral]

Of course, I'd like to imagine I wouldn't get caught so easily given how easy it is to wolf on this site and how to come across as a villager to people but ya never know.

I hope you are in fact scum because it would make this line very funny!

[Coral]

If I had a townread with the amount of confidence Coral was showing I wouldn't drop someone to villager to "shades half the game being ok with going over" just because of a replace in but that's just me.

Can you point out where I showed this level of confidence?

[Coral]

I'm also not at all sure what the quote in there means, could you clarify?

[Xayah]

Of course, I'd like to imagine I wouldn't get caught so easily given how easy it is to wolf on this site and how to come across as a villager to people but ya never know.

I hope you are in fact scum because it would make this line very funny!

*Old lady voice* Back in my day I was one of the best scum players on this site ya see. Ya whiper snappers

[Xayah]

If I had a townread with the amount of confidence Coral was showing I wouldn't drop someone to villager to "shades half the game being ok with going over" just because of a replace in but that's just me.

Can you point out where I showed this level of confidence?

Your entire interaction with me on Ph0 shows that level of confidence, you even doubled down when I asked about it.

[Xayah]

Who is it if it isn't me Meg?

[Ausuka]

Fwiw I don't think Coral saying Phoenix looked 'slightly towny' in the early game really indicates confidence.

I have probably already said something along these lines, but while Meg's neutral line on Galron could potentially be partnered, I don't think it has to be. Given that Galron was basically away the entire time I could understand why town wouldn't develop a read there.

[MegAzumarill]

Who is it if it isn't me Meg?

GE or Datisi would be my guesses.

[Xayah]

I will bet the game on GE town and you will never touch that slot if I die.

[Coral]

Phoenix's persistence is slightly towny, I think.

This was where I originally stated the read. Extreme confidence, here!

In 104 I respond to your questioning of it and clarify my reasoning. I don't think any of my language here portrays confidence. I examine both sides and state that I lean towards one of those sides.

In 125, similarly, I respond to scamper's questioning of it, and I explain again. Here my language is a bit less hedgey, I suppose, but it's still on the same original point.

In 144, I talk to scamper about how I wasn't that confident in the read but it was fun exploring it together

I don't think that in any of those I express much confidence in the read. Your approach to the questioning is also much scummier than scamper's, by the way, because he was examining my reasoning to try to sort me individually. You were focused on Phoenix and making sure that you clarified that you weren't willing to vote the slot, without explaining way, but that other people's reasoning behind their townreads were

bad

. You weren't really trying to sort me in the moment, you ended by saying "hm, I can go along with this for now". You were pretty clearly saving me for later.

[Datisi]

Who is it if it isn't me Meg?

GE or Datisi would be my guesses.

popping in at work to see this, i am very curious how you came to these two slots

[Ausuka]

I think Aristeia's interactions with Phoenix slot was semi clearing both ways and I think GE has looked solidly town since replacing in. Additionally people familiar with her have called Ari town here.

I don't really think scum Datisi takes this angle with his partner and he has felt solidly town throughout to me as well.

[Datisi]

@xayah is there a reason you keep avoiding my questions about your d1 reads?

[MegAzumarill]

Who is it if it isn't me Meg?

GE or Datisi would be my guesses.

popping in at work to see this, i am very curious how you came to these two slots

I don't think its scamper after reconsidering the slot.
Coral I heavily townread.
Ausuka is a townread by play and the claim fits with done's flip.

I haven't found your play town indicative for a while. GE hasn't done a lot and I've been vocal on my scumread of ari.

[Coral]

Part of me is made more confident in thinking it's Xayah by the fact that she dropped her Datisi/Ausuka read to pivot into pushing the two slots that are most likely to be viable eliminations, and despite more of a focus on myself, she votes Meg, who has fewer defenders and one vote currently.

Meg, meanwhile, clings to their suspicion of the Ari slot which is never going to be successful. I'm not really sure why they townread me so strongly, but I don't think it makes strategic sense for them to do so as scum here.