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Post Post #2575 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:57 am

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And there's no town advantage to rushing things anyway, even if you think I'm scum. You gain nothing. If nobody unvotes here, most likely scenario is that Enchant quickhammers, people elim Enchant for it tomorrow, and if they aren't scum (I'm not very confident that they are), the final scum will likely win in ELo.

I'm mostly asking Owen because Crescent is gone and I doubt Frogsterking will.
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Post Post #2576 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:57 am

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UNVOTE: Prince
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Post Post #2577 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:58 am

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Aw i am late
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Post Post #2578 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:02 am

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Enchant fails his one job.

I don't mind rushing the day even though it's not the optimal move because I'd like the game to wrap up today and executing Prince seems likely to do that.
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Post Post #2579 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:13 am

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No, it won't. I'll have some time either tonight or tomorrow morning to look things over in full. I ask that I be given time to do that. If you still decide that I'm most likely scum after that, so be it, but at least I will have given what I can to help solve the game after I'm gone.
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Post Post #2580 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:17 am

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In post 2579, Prince of Paterson wrote:I'll have some time either tonight or tomorrow morning to look things over in full.
This is..alarming.

VOTE: Prince
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Post Post #2581 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:18 am

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Explain why.
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Post Post #2582 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:18 am

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VOTE: Prince
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Post Post #2583 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:23 am

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vote count 6.final

with 7 votes in play, it took 4 to make a decision. day 6 ended.


yeet
Prince of Paterson [4]:
Crescent, UNOwen, Frogsterking, Enchant
[HAMMER]


not voting [3]:
Vivax, geraintm, Prince of Paterson


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Post Post #2584 (ISO) » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:24 am

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Prince of Paterson has been yeeted day 6. he was a
vanilla townie
.

the sun sets, it is now night 6. sunrise in (expired on 2022-08-16 21:30:00).


daystart will be a few hours late, as i will (once again) be at work when the deadline expires. all night actions are due the above deadline.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #2585 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:09 pm

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UNOwen has been killed night 6. they were a
town night 2 neapolitan night 3 cop
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the sun rises, it is now day 7.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #2586 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:11 pm

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vote count 7.00

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision. day 7 ends in (expired on 2022-08-27 01:15:00).


yeet
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Vivax, Frogsterking, Crescent, Enchant, geraintm


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Post Post #2587 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:17 pm

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Not good.
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Post Post #2588 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:32 pm

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I like your new avy BTW Enchant
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Post Post #2589 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:45 pm

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In post 2587, Enchant wrote:Not good.
In post 2588, Frogsterking wrote:I like your new avy BTW Enchant
It's more Enchanting than the Hagrid avy and has more personality than the avy before that. This new one is like little red riding hood without the red.
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Post Post #2590 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:03 pm

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In post 2588, Frogsterking wrote:I like your new avy BTW Enchant
1 hour of photoshop paying off.
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Post Post #2591 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:34 pm

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aaaaaugh
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Enchant, what's your check tonight?
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Post Post #2592 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:56 pm

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In post 2591, Vivax wrote:aaaaaugh
blankly stares and drools
+1, this was my reaction to the flip. Did you reread at all during the Night, Vivax?
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Post Post #2593 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:59 pm

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In post 2592, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 2591, Vivax wrote:aaaaaugh
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+1, this was my reaction to the flip. Did you reread at all during the Night, Vivax?
Not yet, but I have the mafiascum phase duration TM to make up for that
Until then I have free reign to shi*post
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Post Post #2594 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:35 pm

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I need this game to be over so my brain can heal, I've never in my 7 1/2 years of mafia seen a member of town forget that they claimed... And of course it fit every argument that existed against the guy. Yay I got cheeky. I'm pretty much out of mental power to give. 5 games in a short span with the last one going to day 7 kinda has me shorted out.

Anyways, I guess like follow Greeting and Prince and kill Enchant, or just kill me and then follow all three of us (and Fred... And Malcolm...) and kill Enchant, Do I want to be that lazy? I don't know. I am a bit paranoid about one of you other three for reasons that kind of aren't your fault, and I do have one of you other three effectively townlocked for a black magic sort of reason that I probably shouldn't have and only hinted at because I was that sure the game was going to end with Prince (Seriously who the hell forgets that they already claimed under pressure? I was planning to first post blast that guy before we even flipped Mala, and I didn't even write up anything beforehand because I wanted to quote that post properly. Last time I first post nuked someone like that it was day 4 and they actually were as obviously the last scum as they looked.)

The question I've been asking myself the entire night phase is do I actually elaborate on that townlock or do I just roll over and die on it. Seriously though Enchant cannot be allowed to live in endgame even if I die here. There's way too many town bodies (Fred, MT, Greeting, Prince, and potentially myself) that wanted this guy dead for at least an entire day, if not longer. This was ignored in 2273 when like half the dead town all wanted scum Gera dead.

I don't really know what else I have to say. I don't know if I have any more actual arguments left in me to give this game other than "I've given multiple arguments in the past against this guy." and "Follow the trail of bodies.". I know who I'd go for after Enchant, but I don't expect to survive either today's vote or tomorrow's vote to actually do it sooooo kinda moot.

I'm both sleepy and restless. Yay. Maybe I can find someone to pet me.


Oh I do have one. I reread Day 3's VCA. It's interesting.

Prince of Paterson [6]:
Enchant
, Lowell, Andante, Vivax, Crescent,
Mala

Enchant [4]: Prince of Paterson,
Unsure
, Greeting, UNOwen

Turns to:

MalcolmTucker [6]: Andante, Vivax,
Enchant
,
Unsure
, UNOwen, geraintm
Enchant [3]: Prince of Paterson, Greeting, MalcolmTucker
Prince of Paterson [2]: Lowell,
Malakittens


Turns to:

MalcolmTucker [5]:
Unsure
, UNOwen, geraintm, Vivax,
Malakittens

Malakittens [4]: Firebringer, Prince of Paterson, Greeting, Crescent
Prince of Paterson [2]: Lowell, Andante
Enchant [1]: MalcolmTucker

not voting [1]:
Enchant


Turns to:

MalcolmTucker [7]: UNOwen, geraintm,
Malakittens
, Vivax,
Unsure
,
Enchant
, Firebringer [HAMMER]
Malakittens [3]: Prince of Paterson, Greeting, Crescent
Prince of Paterson [2]: Lowell, Andante
Enchant [1]: MalcolmTucker


Mala's train is
always
pure. Enchant's train is always pure with the exception of Unsure, who voted Enchant claiming to want to put him "-1"... When he tied him for the lead with
two
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MT's train has scum ALL OVER IT
. Seriously, the only person currently alive who isn't on that train is... Me, as I was asleep on Mala. All three scum are guaranteed on that train. A rush of town voted Mala to force her to claim, then a rush of people hammered MT at lightspeed (with some help from Fire..) before Mala's claim could be scrutinized... Something myself, Greeting, and Prince ALL did with our first post the next day. I was minutes away from scrutinizing it before MT's flip.

And there we go, a cohesive argument of day 3's VCA. Do not let Enchant survive this game, please.
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Post Post #2595 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:05 pm

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Good writeup, shouldn't even assume you are yeetable for it, why?
Question is if you'd rather presume Gera or Enchant
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Post Post #2596 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:06 pm

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On a side note... Both Gera and Vivax's vote patterns on day 3 are actually just as bad.. Especially now with Vivax being on Prince day 5 over Mala,.. But the voting history of Vivax day 1 and day 2 voting history are actually pretty damn good (He was on FP/Unsure and on Mala early), as horrid as his days 3-5 were. I do notice some more interesting things though.

Prince of Paterson [4]: Vivax, Malakittens, Frogsterking, Enchant
Malakittens [2]: UNOwen, geraintm

Gera is probably town for this. Either both scum are on Prince or town played day 5 like total trash. Mala was virtually confirmed scum.

Also, either one of those two to be scum means scum had all 3 members in the first 5 votes on MT, and this would've been before Mala was under any serious danger. Do all 3 scum really just hard sell out like that? The Vivax/Unsure/Mala, Gera/Unsure/Mala, and Enchant/Unsure/Mala, and Fire/Unsure/Mala [i[never appear on the same train[/i] outside of Malcolm. Again, Gera is the one out of the 4 of them that was Malcolm
before
Mala's claim. Vivax and Unsure unvoted at some point, and then Vivax/Enchant/Unsure/Fire immediately voted following Mala's claim. Gera's either town, or he's played a really strong scumgame. No way around it.

Oh and there's more.

Unsure [2]: Greeting, Lowell
Malakittens [2]: Unsure, Enchant
Prince of Paterson [1]: Vivax

not voting [6]: Firebringer, Malakittens, Crescent, geraintm, UNOwen, Prince of Paterson

Myself, Greeting, and Prince all immediately agree that Mala is probably scum, but agree to give her a day because of her claim. Look who's on her.
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Post Post #2597 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:06 pm

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Way I see it purely from votes is that Gera looks worse
The Ench unvote gives him some cred here
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Post Post #2598 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:06 pm

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In post 2595, Vivax wrote:Good writeup, shouldn't even assume you are yeetable for it, why?
Question is if you'd rather presume Gera or Enchant
Because paranoia of me should be at maximum at this point and for good reason. I'm planning as if I've only got one shot.
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Post Post #2599 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:09 pm

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In post 2597, Vivax wrote:Way I see it purely from votes is that Gera looks worse
The Ench unvote gives him some cred here
Gera has the most likely to be town vote on Malcolm of the four of you, and was actually voting the confirmed scum day 5 when the rest of you weren't. The vote on you (if you're town) does look bad for how long he clung onto it uselessly, I will give that much. Gera in 2273 locked a vote on me early on day 1 and basically just refused to ever move it.

He's had 1 post in the last two days because we keep hammering so fast that it does worry me a bit that we basically have no actually heard from this guy in a week.

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