Open 863 - The Coalition - Postgame

[Alianna]

1.07

Votecount 1.07

UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri (2): PenguinPower, Jake The Wolfie
hutmeil (2): Cat.Jpeg, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): hutmeil, UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri
Cat.Jpeg (1): Malakittens
Klick (1): Enchant

Not Voting (1): Klick

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-30 12:04:16).

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: UltimateDetective
to be clear before anyone gets it twisted, penguin's reply and the VC make me feel alright moving to voting here

[Alianna]

Enchant is being prodded.

[Jake The Wolfie]

UNVOTE:

Reading Comprehension will Commence Soon

[Enchant]

Eh. I am still in mood of voting Klick, but if you need my vote...

[hutmeil]

Eh. I am still in mood of voting Klick, but if you need my vote...

I don't think Klick is informed. He's just assuming that there's 1 scum in and out of the coalition since that would be the best setup for scum.

[Cat.Jpeg]

Gamma with the takes I'm not vibing with at all

First of all, we're voting in the coalition today. With 30% chance of hitting scum in the coalition and 12.5% chance of hitting scum outside of it, voting outside the coalition is a very poor choice.

Hutmeil and Bloodb0t are both the obvious people to sus at this point but neither of them are who should be focused on right now. Hutmeil's content that isn't the coalition vote just feels genuine to me.

All in all your catchup has a lot of empty statements and things you could easily double-back on and I read it as really scummy. But that conflicts with my townread on Hyped.

Mala I'm interested in your read on Gamma's replace-in

VOTE: Klick

This is scumclaim, Klick seems to be informed that there's exactly 1 maf in coalition, not 2.

Not sure where anything I said implies that?

I dont think Klick has actually said they think there is one mafia in one mafia out. Expecially because if they thought that it would contradict with their math argument for voting in the coalition. Because one in one out would mean in coalition is 1/5 and out is 1/4, therefore better.

[Cat.Jpeg]

Eh. I am still in mood of voting Klick, but if you need my vote...

I don't think Klick is informed. He's just assuming that there's 1 scum in and out of the coalition since that would be the best setup for scum.

I think Gammas the only one who said she thinks theres one in one out. Im not sure about one in one out being the best for scum because if both were in, if one flipped red people would probably assume 1 in 1 out and townread everyone else in it, but thats getting into reverse psychology. I do however think there is one scum in one scum out because i scumread you.

[Cat.Jpeg]

Even before I factor in any personal feelings, that nails hutmeil as scum because he's the only one who voted for it that wasn't in it.

Mafia NEEDS to be in the coalition or they lose D1. Town doesn't have to. Though it's nice to win D1, they have the luxury of not being in the coalition and still win the next days. So your logic that I'm scum because I didn't vote myself into the coalition doesn't hold much weight.

On the flip side though mafia need ONE of them to be in the coalition so if they know their partner's in there they are going to vote on it. Also you admit in this post that town not voting for themselves in the coalition leads to failed coalitions. 'they have the luxury of not being in the coalition and still winning in the next days'.

[Enchant]

Maybe makes sense, but there's also more. Could be quirk of course.

So why i need vote Ultimate/Gamma?

[Cat.Jpeg]

Idk why but gamma is bugging me but I don’t wanna be wrong :/

I think I get why :cry: but I don’t feel like I should bring it up yet

Is this a meta thing?

[Cat.Jpeg]

Maybe makes sense, but there's also more. Could be quirk of course.

So why i need vote Ultimate/Gamma?

I dont really want to vote either of them. Ideally I would still vote Hutmeil but i dont know if i will get enough support on that. People in the coalition can remove themselves from possibilities of who to vote but right now the only person in there who i dont think could be scum is Jake the Wolfie/mohab so theres 4 possibilities in there. But outside i can remove myself and probably mala so theres only 2 slots I would consider voting.

[Enchant]

If you can't notice maf in coalition where it's confirmed, how we can trust your reads outside where it's not confirmed?

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk why but gamma is bugging me but I don’t wanna be wrong :/

I think I get why but I don’t feel like I should bring it up yet

Is this a meta thing?

General meta yes

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe makes sense, but there's also more. Could be quirk of course.

So why i need vote Ultimate/Gamma?

Who would you vote rn?

[Alianna]

UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri is due for her third prod and is being replaced. The deadline will freeze at 48 hours if no replacement is found before then.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: UDkg

Let’s yeet

[Malakittens]

We need a flip for info
Good chance scum slot
Let’s go

[Klick]

Gamma, what's your read on Mala and Enchant?

[Gamma Emerald]

Mala seems town
idek Enchant

[Klick]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Gamma Emerald]

[Klick]

You feel very hesitant to commit to reads and I don't normally see this
It feels intentional

[Klick]

Idk why but gamma is bugging me but I don’t wanna be wrong :/

I think there's credit to this
I also think Mala's likely town for this take?

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I don’t feel much strong feelings on those slots rn