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[humaneatingmonkey]

Datisi do you identify as someone who would play like how i said i expected you to. the withhold read and ask question type.

in a game where i scumread you for not having a solvy spirit, you dismissed it as "that was 2 years ago i've changed" so maybe you can give me a picture of who you have become as a fully post-adolescent cute boy.

[Datisi]

the same way, no. which is why i am not uberlocktowning him.

Ok but this doesn't address my concern. Am I wrong that you are townreading him because he sucked up to you in the one game he played as scum with town you and you think he would play the same way here? If I'm not, why do you believe that?

yes. he said in that game that he fearkilled me. which means that he fears my towngame. assuming nothing has changed since then, and he still has the same thoughts on it, i highly doubt he enters this game with "actually datisi is scummy tho lol" because scum!him would KNOW i would become obvtown later on (he hasn't yet witnessed the scumlordtisi arc, i think), while town!him would absolutely poke me early if he thought i was being out of line

[Datisi]

Datisi do you identify as someone who would play like how i said i expected you to. the withhold read and ask question type.

in a game where i scumread you for not having a solvy spirit, you dismissed it as "that was 2 years ago i've changed" so maybe you can give me a picture of who you have become as a fully post-adolescent cute boy.

that's not what i said. i said i changed my mind on that line of thinking being any good for solving aristeia. i still absolutely do the thing you described.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Ari, Datisi isn't asking you so I'll ask on his behalf

did you think VP was scummy for not voting Datisi there? do you think it's consistent that Datisi would have assumed what he assumed about you here?

[Datisi]

did you roll scum again my dear? <3

first of all, no

do you think it's likely i rand scum and then enter townreading you for no reason, after knowing you gave me a lot of shit for that when i was scum?

[Ausuka]

the same way, no. which is why i am not uberlocktowning him.

Ok but this doesn't address my concern. Am I wrong that you are townreading him because he sucked up to you in the one game he played as scum with town you and you think he would play the same way here? If I'm not, why do you believe that?

yes. he said in that game that he fearkilled me. which means that he fears my towngame. assuming nothing has changed since then, and he still has the same thoughts on it, i highly doubt he enters this game with "actually datisi is scummy tho lol" because scum!him would KNOW i would become obvtown later on (he hasn't yet witnessed the scumlordtisi arc, i think), while town!him would absolutely poke me early if he thought i was being out of line

I think guiltylion probably has some idea that you are capable as scum and am surprised you don't think so

Also, like... I'm still really not seeing the leap in logic between 'gl thinks datisi is good as town' and 'scum gl wouldn't push town datisi'

[Ausuka]

ausuka actually town, probably. sad, i liked the ausuka/ari theory

Why am I town? I haven't posted much actual content so far, so I'm surprised you stated a read on me not once but twice.

i said you were town bc i liked your callout of datisi for the post about GL bc i felt similarly about it

but it does seem his reasoning was more nuanced than it originally appeared, so i don't really suspect him for it anymore. i still like that you called it out tho and are continuing to pursue that line

That's fair I guess

[Aristeia]

did you roll scum again my dear? <3

first of all, no

do you think it's likely i rand scum and then enter townreading you for no reason, after knowing you gave me a lot of shit for that when i was scum?

it would certainly be cheeky and brave <3

[Datisi]

his only witnessed scumgame of mine was me shitting the bed, and idk how much he's been keeping up with current events

bc he knows if i call him out for bullshit, he might die d1. even if not, it's not gonna look pretty. so he probably doesn't wanna do that. especially as his scum mo is generally push lhf anf get sacced

also like, do i really have to be explaining why scum is reluctant to push on townies they know are dangerous?

@ausuka

[Aristeia]

i dunno how good you are at faking a scumread on me as scum because I've never seen you try it.

[Aristeia]

I am going to fall asleep. hope you will convince me you are town in my dreams <3

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Datisi

his anxiety levels went from 0 to 100 real quick and by 279, he's already invoking wifom as defense.
you said you'll be obvtown soon so we'll see!

[Datisi]

I am going to fall asleep. hope you will convince me you are town in my dreams <3

sleep well <3

Spoiler:

[Ausuka]

his only witnessed scumgame of mine was me shitting the bed, and idk how much he's been keeping up with current events

bc he knows if i call him out for bullshit, he might die d1. even if not, it's not gonna look pretty. so he probably doesn't wanna do that. especially as his scum mo is generally push lhf anf get sacced

also like, do i really have to be explaining why scum is reluctant to push on townies they know are dangerous?

@ausuka

In a very general context, sure

In a context where your posting was pretty explicitly meh? I really don't see the idea that giving you a light shove on it would be dangerous

[Datisi]

idk what you're feeling as a 0 to 100 when i have been quite bored of this whole conversation, but sure

@hem

[Ausuka]

Like acting like I'm making this push because I don't understand how mafia works or something just feels super not genuine from Datisi here. I don't think my concern with handing GL an easy townread in a situation where it defuses tension between him and Datisi is super unreasonable or difficult to understand.

[Nero Cain]

So I'm alone in thinking FB could be scum here?

[humaneatingmonkey]

not me but ari has barely pushed you seriously and you already pulled out a wifom defense where i expected more goofing to be present

[Datisi]

Like acting like I'm making this push because I don't understand how mafia works or something just feels super not genuine from Datisi here. I don't think my concern with handing GL an easy townread in a situation where it defuses tension between him and Datisi is super unreasonable or difficult to understand.

well i mean you said the thing that made it appear like it, but

i don't think your pov is difficult to understand. and i understand that you could not have seen into my brain and known that i was specifically planning a "if gl call out, +town; else +scum" reaction test. and without that part, it's not unreasonable to come to the conclusion that i was defusing the situation or whatever. which is why i'm not pushing on you for this and will instead wait for you to realize that you're wrong

[humaneatingmonkey]

So I'm alone in thinking FB could be scum here?

why do you think so

[Nero Cain]

he kicked my puppy

[Datisi]

not me but ari has barely pushed you seriously and you already pulled out a wifom defense where i expected more goofing to be present

the "scumtisi always townreads me, towntisi always scumreads me" is a bit that's been going for a while. it wasn't just a wifom defense, i wanted to see why she did not seem to have any thoughts on whether it's actually likely scum!me did the thing i've continuously been doing and getting called out for for the past three years, and instead went for the level zero thought process

[Datisi]

So I'm alone in thinking FB could be scum here?

wanna try to sell me on it?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Datisi do you identify as someone who would play like how i said i expected you to. the withhold read and ask question type.

in a game where i scumread you for not having a solvy spirit, you dismissed it as "that was 2 years ago i've changed" so maybe you can give me a picture of who you have become as a fully post-adolescent cute boy.

that's not what i said. i said i changed my mind on that line of thinking being any good for solving aristeia. i still absolutely do the thing you described.

i was referring to your response to me from another game, i think we have misunderstood each other here.

[Datisi]

i don't remember what the context was of that game

and if that's the large where i was scum, possible i was just talking out of my ass anyway