Mini Normal 2279: VGSR - GAME OVER

[Frogsterking]

Wait, why do you have so many green in your reads?

Have I missed something?

i think all my d1 scumreads were wrong save for Ausuka

Can you elaborate on what caused your reads to flip?

I mean maybe I'm alone here but that just doesn't fly with me. Like you are saying that you didn't want to think about mafia at 6 am but you signed in specifically to DEFEND your d1 actions. I could be wrong of course, but I just don't really understand why MND and BBT are giving you a free pass.

I read the game and explained what I did because that required like literally zero critical analysis or thought on my part. I was repeating information I already knew

Providing partial answers to dilemmas like this is pretty much what I collected data for:

Spoiler: frog's survey

"Get angry easily" = 3

"Take charge" = 3

"Make people feel welcome" = 4

"Like music" = 3

"Like to tidy up" = 2

"Like to visit new places" = 5

"Feel comfortable around people" = 2

"Interested in many things" = 2

"Love order and regularity" = 4

"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 3

"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 1

"Cheer people up" = 2

"Lose my temper" = 3

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 5

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 2

"Cheat to get ahead" = 1

"Feel desperate" = 4

"Rarely overindulge" = 3

"Easily resist temptations" = 2

"Have a high opinion of myself" = 2

"Waste my time" = 4

"Need a push to get started" = 2

"Have little to contribute" = 2

"Keep my cool" = 4

"Avoid crowds" = 5

"Turn my back on others" = 3? Not sure what this one is meant to mean

not sure what this will do but i like personality quizzes so!

I can run my script on her answers to see what the actual sub facets are, but from eyeballing Ausuka's answers I can say that Ausuka is more likely to be telling the truth about their 6 am post.

I'm inclined to believe that you have a subconscious habit of scum leaning players for thread presence, Nero.

[Nero Cain]

maybe?

If Ausuka was scum with Mohaab/Cresent I think there's some scum motivation in getting on to just quickly defend herself. If its 6am and she didn't feel like thinking or playing this game why was it so so so important to get on and claim that?

No one sees that so eh...

[Nero Cain]

Can you elaborate on what caused your reads to flip?

it makes sense to me that an informed Ausuka would call my reads bad b/c she knew they were bad. I was also coming from a place where an Eiralox/Cresent team makes

MND
Greeting
Gandhi

town


leaving a POE of

BlueBloodedToffee
DeltaWave
Frogsterking
hoppip
Ausuka

If I follow through on my theory then delta and frog are town

leaving

BBT
hopip
Ausuka

are its just my thought that I think its Ausuka over hopip/BBT but they'll prob be flipped b4 her.

like I'm really confused why ppl are townreading her.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not paired with Mohab so I really shouldn't be there.

[Nero Cain]

I mean maybe Eira is just picking up on me pushing a Eira/Ausuka team and playing me but this post really makes me go

I don't think their push on me is meticulous or inspired but I can't in good conscience frame it as scum rn.

[Frogsterking]

it makes sense to me that an informed Ausuka would call my reads bad b/c she knew they were bad. I was also coming from a place where an Eiralox/Cresent team makes

I agree that it's a possibility, I disagree that it's a probability.

These are the main questions and answers from Ausuka which make me think the behavior is NAI.

"Waste my time" = 4

"Need a push to get started" = 2

"Have little to contribute" = 2

Ausuka is industrial and assertive. Means they are likely to share their opinion upon reading the topic at 6 am as Town.

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 5

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 2

"Cheat to get ahead" = 1

Ausuka is cooperative (possible alternative motivation for sharing their opinion.)

Ausuka is very high in fantasy/imagination (like me!!) and much lower in intellectual curiosity. This means we can expect Ausuka is primarily relying on their intuition, feelings and perceptual abilities rather than their analytical abilities to identify scum. Ausuka seems to be acting congruent with this because they wrote that 6 am felt too early for critical thinking, which implies to me that it didn't feel too early for sharing perceptual or intuitive thoughts, which is why they posted what they did.

[DeltaWave]

I kinda want to do this survey now so you can give me the Sigmund Freud treatment too

[DeltaWave]

Rate each descriptive statement on how well it describes you using the Likert scale (1 = strongly disagree to 5 = strongly agree).

"Get angry easily" = 1.5

"Take charge" = 4.2

"Make people feel welcome" = 3.3

"Like music" = 5.0

"Like to tidy up" = 1.2

"Like to visit new places" = 3.1

"Feel comfortable around people" = 5.0

"Interested in many things" = 5.0

"Love order and regularity" = 2.4

"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 1.5

"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 2.0

"Cheer people up" = 4.4

"Lose my temper" = 1.2

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 3.2

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 5.0

"Cheat to get ahead" = 3.0

"Feel desperate" = 1.1

"Rarely overindulge" = 2.5

"Easily resist temptations" = -1.0

"Have a high opinion of myself" = 5.0

"Waste my time" = 5.0

"Need a push to get started" = 4.0

"Have little to contribute" = 1.3

"Keep my cool" = 4.3

"Avoid crowds" = 3.2

"Turn my back on others" = 3.8

[Greeting]

Greeting can you post a reads list?

I will do this on Day 3 after I see

Eiralox

's flip. That is, if I am still alive on Day 3.

[DeltaWave]

i'm gonna catch up after work but i feel like this is eralox right now

omf i read this as u wanting to vote me which prompted my 1194. which was... senselessly offensive considering u never even said u were gonna vote me. yeah if i'm starting to misread posts like this, like seeing what I expect rather than maintaining a judicial mindset, it's time for me to take a breather. Think I'll return tommorow.

I think i'll be very glad if some of the votes on me come with cases. I'll be even gladder if gandhi and hopip start to be more proactive so we can sort this.

Have fun ya'll.

i don't know exactly how to put this into words, but your extremely defensive/persecuted reaction strikes me as something that is at least not scummy and perhaps townie. the pure volatility of it. call it a "frustrated townie" vibe. i think you're out of my poe for right now.

[Greeting]

Actually, I was wondering why I wasn't killed tonight and

furtiveglance

was. My guess is that there are no more Mafia Goons in this game and so my role isn't a threat to the mafia anymore. I will still continue checking people in case I am wrong though. I'm planning on targeting

hoppip

on Night 2.

Still though, it's kinda weird that they would sacrifice

Crescent

like this. I made it clear that I would be likely targeting her tonight (1062). If she hadn't been vigged, I would have announced my guilty and she would be gone on Day 2 anyway.

[Frogsterking]

Happy birthday, Delta

[DeltaWave]

Actually, I was wondering why I wasn't killed tonight and

furtiveglance

was.

many possible reasons, some of them WIFOM. not really wise to chug the wifom unless there's some really cogent case behind it

p-edit: thanks, 11 years on MS!

[DeltaWave]

i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol

[Frogsterking]

i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol

Okay, and do you work at a firm?

[Greeting]

i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol

Happy scumday, and congratulations. Being a trial attorney is great if you like arguing and, like, standing your ground though.

I graduated Law myself, but I'm planning on a career switch as I'm very susceptible to work-related stress and pressure which is abundant in the legal sector unfortunately.

[DeltaWave]

i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol

Okay, and do you work at a firm?

yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.

[Frogsterking]

i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol

Okay, and do you work at a firm?

yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.

How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?

[DeltaWave]

i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol

Okay, and do you work at a firm?

yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.

How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?

this is actually the best firm i've worked at. there's a legitimate team spirit and it lacks the kind of backstabbing/undermining that is typical in law firms. very unusual environment

[DeltaWave]

era - what does "townlock" mean to you, specifically

[Frogsterking]

i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol

Okay, and do you work at a firm?

yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.

How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?

this is actually the best firm i've worked at. there's a legitimate team spirit and it lacks the kind of backstabbing/undermining that is typical in law firms. very unusual environment

Is the environment unusual only because of the lack of backstabbing or are there other aspects which make it unusual to work there?

[DeltaWave]

i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol

Okay, and do you work at a firm?

yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.

How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?

this is actually the best firm i've worked at. there's a legitimate team spirit and it lacks the kind of backstabbing/undermining that is typical in law firms. very unusual environment

Is the environment unusual only because of the lack of backstabbing or are there other aspects which make it unusual to work there?

i'm fine w/talking about this but is this related to mafia? i will keep answering if this is some psychoanalysis thing because i want to know my personality type

[Nero Cain]

a law firm without backstabbing? Such a bore

[Frogsterking]

i was in my last year of law school when i joined and now i'm a senior trial attorney lol

Okay, and do you work at a firm?

yeah. i used to be the general counsel for a company but they went under due to covid and now i'm back to trial law.

How do you feel about the work culture at your firm?

this is actually the best firm i've worked at. there's a legitimate team spirit and it lacks the kind of backstabbing/undermining that is typical in law firms. very unusual environment

Is the environment unusual only because of the lack of backstabbing or are there other aspects which make it unusual to work there?

i'm fine w/talking about this but is this related to mafia? i will keep answering if this is some psychoanalysis thing because i want to know my personality type

It's related to both topics

[DeltaWave]

oh cool. they take advantage of better systems, e.g. we're completely digital with e-signatures etc etc instead of fully paper files and that sort of thing. they also have a well-defined role for paralegals which is sometimes a question mark in firms