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DeasVail · Post Post #4425 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:25 pm

In post 4424, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4421, DeasVail wrote:what is a tilt wagon?
When the towncore goes on tilt and throws away the D2 kill.

why do you think the scumreads on HEM are bad?

Frogsterking · Post Post #4426 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:28 pm

In post 4425, DeasVail wrote:
In post 4424, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4421, DeasVail wrote:what is a tilt wagon?
When the towncore goes on tilt and throws away the D2 kill.
why do you think the scumreads on HEM are bad?

It seems like the scum reads come from tilt. I think HEM is good enough to pass for D2.

DeasVail · Post Post #4427 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:29 pm

In post 4426, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4425, DeasVail wrote:
In post 4424, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4421, DeasVail wrote:what is a tilt wagon?
When the towncore goes on tilt and throws away the D2 kill.
why do you think the scumreads on HEM are bad?
It seems like the scum reads come from tilt. I think HEM is good enough to pass for D2.

What do you mean by "good enough"?

Frogsterking · Post Post #4428 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:30 pm

In post 4427, DeasVail wrote:
In post 4426, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4425, DeasVail wrote:
In post 4424, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4421, DeasVail wrote:what is a tilt wagon?
When the towncore goes on tilt and throws away the D2 kill.
why do you think the scumreads on HEM are bad?
It seems like the scum reads come from tilt. I think HEM is good enough to pass for D2.
What do you mean by "good enough"?

Townie enough

DeasVail · Post Post #4429 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:33 pm

You seemed more confident in HEM being town here:

In post 4359, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 4358, humaneatingmonkey wrote:yes

can people who naked voted me please drop their reasons for voting tnx

TOWN

What changed?

Frogsterking · Post Post #4430 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:35 pm

In post 4330, DeasVail wrote:My reservation with HEM is that I'm not sure that their play here is trying all that hard to look like town, which is the sense I have gotten from seeing HEM as scum previously. Here it seems more like they are just mucking around and having fun without actually caring all that much.
I'm interested in seeing the reaction to the wagon, but not all that interested in seeing HEM eliminated before that.

Posts like this make me think HEM will flip Town.

PEdit:

IDK I guess nothing changed? This feels like a go-nowhere question.

DeasVail · Post Post #4431 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:37 pm

Quoting a post and saying "TOWN" seems like a different level of confidence from "good enough to pass for D2" (the latter of which implies that you would more likely consider eliminating HEM on a later day).

Also if you're basing your reads off the assumption that I'm scum, why not push for my elimination? HEM was more widely townread than me on Day 1. Maybe you could make it happen.

Frogsterking · Post Post #4432 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:40 pm

In post 4431, DeasVail wrote:Quoting a post and saying "TOWN" seems like a different level of confidence from "good enough to pass for D2" (the latter of which implies that you would more likely consider eliminating HEM on a later day).

Also if you're basing your reads off the assumption that I'm scum, why not push for my elimination? HEM was more widely townread than me on Day 1. Maybe you could make it happen.

If you're accusing me of having wavering levels of self-efficacy then you caught me red-handed.

ISO · Post Post #4433 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:44 pm

In post 4432, Frogsterking wrote:If you're accusing me of having wavering levels of self-efficacy then you caught me red-handed.

Can you rephrase this without any psych jargon?

Frogsterking · Post Post #4434 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:45 pm

In post 4433, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4432, Frogsterking wrote:If you're accusing me of having wavering levels of self-efficacy then you caught me red-handed.
Can you rephrase this without any psych jargon?

Nah google it

DeasVail · Post Post #4435 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:46 pm

In post 4433, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4432, Frogsterking wrote:If you're accusing me of having wavering levels of self-efficacy then you caught me red-handed.
Can you rephrase this without any psych jargon?

(It doesn't make much sense tbh)

Frogsterking · Post Post #4436 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:47 pm

In post 4435, DeasVail wrote:
In post 4433, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4432, Frogsterking wrote:If you're accusing me of having wavering levels of self-efficacy then you caught me red-handed.
Can you rephrase this without any psych jargon?
(It doesn't make much sense tbh)

Sounds like a reading comprehension problem then.

ISO · Post Post #4437 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:47 pm

In post 4434, Frogsterking wrote:Nah google it

I did. Your response doesn't seem to answer the question.

Frogsterking · Post Post #4438 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:50 pm

In post 4431, DeasVail wrote:Also if you're basing your reads off the assumption that I'm scum, why not push for my elimination?

IDK because I'm not that bad? This feels like another go-nowhere question.

Frogsterking · Post Post #4439 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:00 pm

VOTE: Dannflor

I'll see if this picks up

Datisi · Post Post #4440 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 12:07 am

In post 4391, Thestatusquo wrote:I do not like this response even a little bit.

I don't buy that HEM even expected to be attacked for his posts. For him to come in and claim it was a master plan to get scum read as a GAMBIT to out all the scum who would VOTE FOR HIM despite the existence of two other wagons that already had momentum is just...a lot to swallow.

fwiw, i think the claim somewhat tracks with his reaction when i first voted him. but i don't think he went with it in a townie direction/way, obviously, so.

T3 · Post Post #4441 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:18 am

humaneatingmonkey (6): scamper, GuiltyLion, fireisredsir, Ydrasse, Thestatusquo, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): Nero Cain, Dannflor
Dannflor (1): Frogsterking
DeasVail (1): obscure
Datisi (1): Enchant
Not voting (6): Something_Smart, marcistar, humaneatingmonkey, Ausuka, Datisi, DeasVail
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-09-18 20:44:00). With 17 alive it takes 9 to eliminate.

T3 · Post Post #4442 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:23 am

There was an error in 3414. I counted 7 votes on humaneatingmonkey, not 6. I also missed DeasVail’s vote on Gamma that happened right before the post.

Also, Gamma Emerald is replacing out.

After player feedback, the rules are being edited. Replacements that happen less than 24 hours before the deadline will freeze the deadline, but replacements that happen before then will not freeze the deadline. If a slot is still not filled 24 hours before the deadline, the deadline will be paused at 24 hours. This only applies to day deadlines, not night deadlines, the rules for that are the same as before.

Datisi · Post Post #4443 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:03 am

VOTE: hem

Nero Cain · Post Post #4444 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:19 am

gut still thinks HEM is town but I can understand why ppl think he's scum.

VOTE: Dannflor

ISO · Post Post #4445 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:40 am

Thing is while i don't have a lot of experience with hem specifically i do have a lot of experience with players going "ah hah! But being scummy is what I was trying to do!" With both alignments and while i don't want to go into the why right now until hem has had a little more time to come back to the thread i don't see this as town.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #4446 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:46 am

Has anyone else reviewed VPB/HEM associatives and have thoughts there? For me that specifically was something that made me more interested in a HEM vote.

ISO · Post Post #4447 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:55 am

Did you share your thoughts there?

scamper · Post Post #4448 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:04 am

In post 4419, Frogsterking wrote:Tilt Wagon?

i won't deny that there is a fair deal of emotion driving that push but i think pressure is a useful tool regardless and hems reaction to it is a little ~off~ imo

fireisredsir · Post Post #4449 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:04 am

In post 4420, Frogsterking wrote:D2 tilt wagon?

it might be a little bit, yea, but it also might be correct

im not sure if i want dann anymore tho