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[Porkens]

Question to everyone, I see Porkens talking about how bad he is and throwing shade at the idea of Town blocs. His only game relevant post is his "gut" vote. Is it only Professor's defense of him that makes him Town?

“HAY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS OTHER PERSON PLEASE”

[Porkens]

I didn’t say he was town.

[Wayward Son]

Question to everyone, I see Porkens talking about how bad he is and throwing shade at the idea of Town blocs. His only game relevant post is his "gut" vote. Is it only Professor's defense of him that makes him Town?

“HAY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS OTHER PERSON PLEASE”

QFT

[Porkens]

Question to everyone, I see Porkens talking about how bad he is and throwing shade at the idea of Town blocs. His only game relevant post is his "gut" vote. Is it only Professor's defense of him that makes him Town?

“HAY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS OTHER PERSON PLEASE”

QFT

Nice, I like you.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Yeah, Salsa can go to my town list.

I'm having a hard time getting a proper read on Professor, but I'm not sure if his erratic behavior is coming from scum.

I think Kitty is at least trying, compared to Newbie 2100, so I feel I can unvote him for now.

I need to reread, meanwhile I'm just going to sheep Salsa:

VOTE: Galron

Why?
What makes you change your read on me?

As I said I'm not sure if your erratic behavior is coming from scum. And I can see a scenario in which you are town and scum are joining your wagon for an easy mislim.

So I'm leaning to think you're dumb but probably not scum.

Alright well what is your thoughts on Wayward?

[NJAC]

His play in this game kind of remind me his play in Newbie 2100. But I haven't seen anything particularly alignment indicative besides that. I'd say null for now.

[Greeting]

Votecount 1.6

Lil Nas X feat. Billy Ray Cyrus - Old Town Road

(2019)

Commentary: That was a big radio hit! And what a great collab! Rapper Lil Nas X and country singer Billy Ray Cyrus (also the father of Miley Cyrus!) really nailed it.

Old Town Road was nominated for Record of The Year at the 2020 Grammies, and won Best Pop Duo/Group Performance. In my opinion, deservedly.

Galron

(2): Salsabil Faria, NJAC

ProfessorDrapion

(2): Shiidaji, KittyTacky

Wayward Son

(2): Galron, Porkens

MalcolmTucker

(1): geraintm

NJAC

(1): ProfessorDrapion

Not Voting

(3): MalcolmTucker, Crescent, Wayward Son

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 1 ends in: (expired on 2022-09-19 10:24:00).

Salsabil Faria

is on V/LA until 17th of September.

[Porkens]

I didn’t say he was town.

They

[MalcolmTucker]

@ Malcolm I made that post after doing a dual ISO of Professor and Porkens. What makes you think Porkens can be Town? I'm not seeing anything.

Kitty is another player who like Wayward Son I'd like to see more from going forward and if PD isn't scum they're a candidate for a possible opportunistic vote. Relatively quiet so far and PD is a relatively obvious target at the moment where the reasoning sort of presents itself.

Personally I don't like these kinds of posts. You want to hear

more

from me? Do you have any questions?

@ Malcolm I get the feeling you know I'm wrong on PD, and are throwing shade at the wagon while slightly supporting it. Town read sliding south.

I'm not sure scum comes in and loudly advertises how hopeless they are so early on to be honest. Scum want to blend in typically and Porkens' approach doesn't indicate seamlessly blending in. If they have doubts as to the game and how they should approach things they have a scum thread where they can ask those questions. That they're not indicates they're probably thinking out loud to me. As a result your PD/Porkens solve felt a bit lazy to me, like you felt you needed to have reads beyond PD.

You've posted more now, fine, I was comparing Kitty to my initial read of you where neither player is overtly scummy but you're ISO reads like it could easily be early game cautious mafia trying to blend in without necessarily saying anything controversial.

I'm not trying to throw shade on you or necessarily move away from PD - I've said I think PD's play has been slightly scummy so far, it's just whether that play is actually coming from someone who is scum or if it is coming from someone who's just frustrated. My goal here is to think - would this player approach the game in this way if they were scum? I'm unsure that's the case with PD which is where my doubt is coming from, because their actual content so far has definitely been scummy, hence the initial read.

[MalcolmTucker]

Question to everyone, I see Porkens talking about how bad he is and throwing shade at the idea of Town blocs. His only game relevant post is his "gut" vote. Is it only Professor's defense of him that makes him Town?

“HAY EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS OTHER PERSON PLEASE”

I want to know a bit more about your read on Wayward beyond the gut-read itself. It's fine to go on gut initially but as someone who suspects Wayward, if I'm potentially wagoning there I want to be confident the other players on the wagon are doing so for legit reasons. Otherwise I'd fear you could be scum just sitting on what you think is a viable elimination without coming up with a justification for doing so. What particularly makes Wayward scummy to you?

[Greeting]

Shiidaji has been prodded. This is his first prod.

[geraintm]

Do you think Galron clears Wayward upon wolf flip?
That would be handy.
Thoughts?

wo is this aimed at?
what is a wolf flip?

[geraintm]

@salsa

I random voted someone

Malcolm comes in shortly after, not realising it was random, and start going "good point, I too found them sus"

Buddying up like that I don't like

The fact I didn't realise it was random is why I thought it was a good point - I didn't like the post from Galron and was simply agreeing with you.

yeah, i aint chaning my opinion of you. i think your joining me reeks and framing it like this doesn't put you in any better light.
VOTE: malcolm

[geraintm]

The fact I didn't realise it was random is why I thought it was a good point - I didn't like the post from Galron and was simply agreeing with you.

I know I touched on this earlier with Geraint, and in the one post where I misunderstood your point. What is wrong with expressing a nightmare scenario? You say you don't like it, can you express why?

i can't see a problem either, and i confess the team listed would be hard for town to beat.

[Greeting]

So I'm leaning to think you're dumb

Do not use this kind of language.

General rules:

9. Please remember, at all times, that this is a game that is supposed provide an enjoyable experience for all. Mafia can get heated. Players will argue. This is all part of the mafia experience. However, you should be considerate of the feelings of others while posting and refrain from any actions that could turn this game into a hostile environment for anyone.

9c. Do not criticize a player’s character or characteristics. Criticize their behavior and, most preferably, in-game behavior instead. Using meta on other players is allowed.

[geraintm]

@ Malcolm I made that post after doing a dual ISO of Professor and Porkens. What makes you think Porkens can be Town? I'm not seeing anything.

Kitty is another player who like Wayward Son I'd like to see more from going forward and if PD isn't scum they're a candidate for a possible opportunistic vote. Relatively quiet so far and PD is a relatively obvious target at the moment where the reasoning sort of presents itself.

Personally I don't like these kinds of posts. You want to hear

more

from me? Do you have any questions?

@ Malcolm I get the feeling you know I'm wrong on PD, and are throwing shade at the wagon while slightly supporting it. Town read sliding south.

I'm not sure scum comes in and loudly advertises how hopeless they are so early on to be honest. Scum want to blend in typically and Porkens' approach doesn't indicate seamlessly blending in. If they have doubts as to the game and how they should approach things they have a scum thread where they can ask those questions. That they're not indicates they're probably thinking out loud to me. As a result your PD/Porkens solve felt a bit lazy to me, like you felt you needed to have reads beyond PD.

You've posted more now, fine, I was comparing Kitty to my initial read of you where neither player is overtly scummy but you're ISO reads like it could easily be early game cautious mafia trying to blend in without necessarily saying anything controversial.

I'm not trying to throw shade on you or necessarily move away from PD - I've said I think PD's play has been slightly scummy so far, it's just whether that play is actually coming from someone who is scum or if it is coming from someone who's just frustrated. My goal here is to think - would this player approach the game in this way if they were scum? I'm unsure that's the case with PD which is where my doubt is coming from, because their actual content so far has definitely been scummy, hence the initial read.

Malclm clearly never played with scum partners where you beg them not to do something in the scum chat and they do it anyways.

"I want to fake claim Day 1 that i am odd night tracker, even night cop and prime night hider, you think that is a good idea?"
"No"
"yeah, i'm a gonna do it anyways"

[MalcolmTucker]

Erratic or unreliable scum partners do exist but I'm not sure what the benefit of looking so clueless and uncertain from a scum POV on D1 is here. I don't think it's a particularly strong argument for scum Porkens at the moment.

[MalcolmTucker]

@salsa

I random voted someone

Malcolm comes in shortly after, not realising it was random, and start going "good point, I too found them sus"

Buddying up like that I don't like

The fact I didn't realise it was random is why I thought it was a good point - I didn't like the post from Galron and was simply agreeing with you.

yeah, i aint chaning my opinion of you.

i think your joining me reeks

and framing it like this doesn't put you in any better light.
VOTE: malcolm

I was agreeing with you several posts in during an early phase of the game? It's hardly as if I was exhibiting a consistent pattern of pocketing or attempting to dodge existing suspicion on me by getting you onside. I feel like you've become hyperfocused on one particular post you didn't like and you're now building a scumcase around that.

[MalcolmTucker]

The fact I didn't realise it was random is why I thought it was a good point - I didn't like the post from Galron and was simply agreeing with you.

I know I touched on this earlier with Geraint, and in the one post where I misunderstood your point. What is wrong with expressing a nightmare scenario? You say you don't like it, can you express why?

i can't see a problem either, and i confess the team listed would be hard for town to beat.

I didn't like it because it felt like the sort of easy throwaway post scum can make that looks insightful at an initial glance but isn't actually saying anything at all of note. "X combo would be hard to beat," sort of expresses an opinion and a view but it's not actually saying anything on the existing gamestate when Galron presumably didn't believe that to be the likely scum combo. And as a result it was an early post that caught my interest.

[MalcolmTucker]

Do you think Galron clears Wayward upon wolf flip?
That would be handy.
Thoughts?

wo is this aimed at?
what is a wolf flip?

Werewolf is a variant of mafia so it's basically saying scum flip.

[NJAC]

So I'm leaning to think you're dumb

Do not use this kind of language.

General rules:

9. Please remember, at all times, that this is a game that is supposed provide an enjoyable experience for all. Mafia can get heated. Players will argue. This is all part of the mafia experience. However, you should be considerate of the feelings of others while posting and refrain from any actions that could turn this game into a hostile environment for anyone.

9c. Do not criticize a player’s character or characteristics. Criticize their behavior and, most preferably, in-game behavior instead. Using meta on other players is allowed.

My apologies. I'm still adapting my language to the current meta and new rules of the site.

[KittyTacky]

I have a tinfoil theory. It's Professor and Porkens. (Assuming scum) Professor took a lot of time to defend Porkens. Porkens' "gut" vote on me is an attempt to start a different wagon.

It may be thin, but I see it.
VOTE: ProfessorDrapion

That’s super dumb.
I am town here.

But I’m ok with dying for the record.

Isn't "fine, kill me" a scumtell?

[KittyTacky]

This whole string of posts is flaily. Scum flaily.

[KittyTacky]

If anyone has any questions aimed at me, ask them.

[KittyTacky]

Don't hesitate. I want to engage more.