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[obscure]

but apparently people want to kill me because i'm busy >.>

how do you know why people want to kill you if you're not caught up?

i just saw the votecount.

[Dannflor]

why do you think it's because you're busy?

[obscure]

why do you think it's because you're busy?

because whenever i'm able to participate people find me as town, then i come back and i'm being voted.

[scamper]

omg deas is finally being wagoned!!

also i'm alive. but apparently people want to kill me because i'm busy >.> like i get it, i clearly can't keep up with the game so feel free to just off me, but i'm still a villager.

the length of the phases is just not for me

ftr, the usage of the term "villager" is, like, highly indicative u have played on mafia universe...

[scamper]

hmm

maybe both wagons are right

this post gives me the heebie jeebies though

[obscure]

omg deas is finally being wagoned!!

also i'm alive. but apparently people want to kill me because i'm busy >.> like i get it, i clearly can't keep up with the game so feel free to just off me, but i'm still a villager.

the length of the phases is just not for me

ftr, the usage of the term "villager" is, like, highly indicative u have played on mafia universe...

we usually say civilian or villager in my groups

[obscure]

mafia universe?

i've played on fortress of lies

[GuiltyLion]

because whenever i'm able to participate people find me as town, then i come back and i'm being voted.

but isn't this just an assumption on your part? Like how are you sure that I didn't write up some super persuasive convincing analysis of why you are scum in the pages you haven't read?

it feels like the main reason to make such a claim is to discourage people from voting you

that may come from town who doesn't like being voted, but this claim about why people are voting you strikes me as disingenuous

[Dannflor]

why do you think it's because you're busy?

because whenever i'm able to participate people find me as town, then i come back and i'm being voted.

there has not been a significant wagon on you until now

previously I was basically the only person campaigning for your wagon

I am unsure why that is the conclusion you assume instead of, say, asking people why they are voting you

[obscure]

because whenever i'm able to participate people find me as town, then i come back and i'm being voted.

but isn't this just an assumption on your part? Like how are you sure that I didn't write up some super persuasive convincing analysis of why you are scum in the pages you haven't read?

it feels like the main reason to make such a claim is to discourage people from voting you

that may come from town who doesn't like being voted, but this claim about why people are voting you strikes me as disingenuous

that's beside the point. if someone wrote a super-analysis of why i'm scum, it still happened in the time i was absent, and IE "votes growing due to absence" becomes a theme.

so i mean.. this is how i view it regardless.

[Ausuka]

hmm

maybe both wagons are right

[obscure]

why do you think it's because you're busy?

because whenever i'm able to participate people find me as town, then i come back and i'm being voted.

there has not been a significant wagon on you until now

previously I was basically the only person campaigning for your wagon

I am unsure why that is the conclusion you assume instead of, say, asking people why they are voting you

when it's been a constant pattern of me being gone --> suspicion on me re-emerging, then it's obviously an assumption i'm going to make. it doesn't take rocket science to figure out that someone who isn't here is an easier vote than someone active. i'm not even necessarily discouraging it because at this point i doubt i'm going to be here enough to make myself obvious town, but i am asking people to consider that their opinions have been tainted in recency bias.

[Ausuka]

idk what to do with obscure tbh

might just throw them in the hem pool of 'they won't endgame and can die at some point unless they get confirmed'

[Dannflor]

i sort of think at this point we should just kill someone who says "feel free to just off me"

[Ausuka]

VOTE: obscure

Whatever I'm just tired

[obscure]

the alternative is saying that i will participate enough to figure out the mafia with certainty or something and i have a realistic view of my time.

obviously i'd prefer if we kill deas but i'm not going to be an asshole about it. i'm just a vanilla townie.

[Dannflor]

i think we have to kill you rather than risk outing another PR

[Datisi]

i don't *love* this kill but i feel like we gotta get something done, and if he's going to keep extremely low posting, it might as well be now?

[GuiltyLion]

i think we have to kill you rather than risk outing another PR

I don't think this logic makes sense when we have a vig shot tonight

[Dannflor]

does it not?

I'm trying to avoid a situation where we run up DV or S_S or something and they are yet another confirmable PR

I'm generally not good at understanding best mechanical decisions though so I'll defer to people who actually know what they are talking about

[Datisi]

though, if hem is a vig that shoots tonight, we should wait for his replacement to leash him, no? god fuck this game

[Dannflor]

it is very hard to be motivated to give a fuck right now

[GuiltyLion]

I'm not trying to position myself as a mech person, I'm just thinking if we flip obscure and he's a VT, vig might shoot in DV/S_S in which case we'd lose them if they're a confirmable PR in that world too

[Dannflor]

oh yes that makes sense, don't mind me

[GuiltyLion]

like that time when Datisi shot an IC