Datisi's Café [game over!]
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vote count 2.02
with 17 votes in play, it takes 9 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-10-04 01:00:00).
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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Uncrowned Mafia Scum
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im thinking thoIn post 1252, Uncrowned wrote:shift it to who tho-
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...What? Why does anyone ever use a role?In post 1245, Ausuka wrote:Why did you decide to use this role?-
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Roden is talking as if his role PM looks something like thisIn post 1003, Datisi wrote:
If it did, I mean, why not use your ability?No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I don't really get why Roden would claim at daystart, as either alignment. The town!Roden idea that petapan could back his claim doesn't make a lot of sense because the message doesn't reveal alignment, and also Roden could just target someone else on another night. But scum!Roden has no need to claim frame 1 either, if anything it just gets him a lot of attention.-
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This is susIn post 1024, Something_Smart wrote:I was gonna vote peta though so I guess I can't be that mad.
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This is an underrated point. Lukewarm town for me as well, why start a wagon on your buddy out of nowhere?In post 1232, Klick wrote:To be clear, mastina:
This is the primary reason I think Luke can't be scum.In post 39, Lukewarm wrote:
Is this just you guessing that this game is a 17:4, or did I miss that info somewhere, or?In post 19, Ircher wrote:As long as we achieve 1,275 points out of 1,700 points each day, we will be fine. If mastina is setting hers to 0%, then we need to average 80 points per player to avoid the extra night kills.
I'd love to see a convincing perspective on why Luke actively decides to make this post as scum. Because otherwise, I agree that he's a pretty simple choice for PoE.-
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Confirmed that I was right about this.In post 1225, Something_Smart wrote:Worth noting, I don't think Ircher's role would actually show up guilty to a TA, because it's not private communication. I've asked Datisi.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Could you elaborate on the full percentage costs including the extra for the reply thing?In post 1254, Roden wrote:
...What? Why does anyone ever use a role?In post 1245, Ausuka wrote:Why did you decide to use this role?"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Also yeah that makes senseIn post 1261, Something_Smart wrote:
Confirmed that I was right about this.In post 1225, Something_Smart wrote:Worth noting, I don't think Ircher's role would actually show up guilty to a TA, because it's not private communication. I've asked Datisi.
I actually had this thought after going offline while trying to get to sleep"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I have seen several people ask why he would use his ability if he is town, but it feels you are skipping past how little productivity he claimed that it needed.In post 1256, Ausuka wrote:Roden is talking as if his role PM looks something like this
If it did, I mean, why not use your ability?
ngl, if I had a PR that only needed 5% I'm not really sure that I would not have ended up using it even if its bad, on the basis of "well its just 5%." With 17 townies alive, that is as a shift of the town average by -0.29% -- which does feel kinda irrelevant.
Like it only affects the scum kill count if the town is exactly inside the 75.00%-75.29% | 50.00%-50.29% | 25.00% - 25.29% before considering him.
5% would actually be irrelevant in 99.13% of all possible town productivity levels.-
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WhyIn post 1259, furtiveglance wrote:This is susIt's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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In post 1255, Ausuka wrote:ok yeah you have to be scum
Can you just tell me what you're actually accusing me of hereIn post 1256, Ausuka wrote:
Roden is talking as if his role PM looks something like thisIn post 1003, Datisi wrote:
If it did, I mean, why not use your ability?
Because right now you're having a conversation but it's not with me-
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Mastina, I'm struggling to think of how this could be the case. I would say don't worry about sharing your argument, if Ircher's setup speculation was real then there are only 3 mafia left, I don't think scum fakeclaiming in future is a massive problem.In post 1158, mastina wrote:
I can.In post 1121, Vivax wrote:
I can't spot anything scummy about Roden, it's a placid toneIn post 1120, mastina wrote:
(Fire is probably scum #2, with Roden.)In post 1081, Vivax wrote:
Hard disagree, to me both Peta and Nero were weird kills. Peta makes sense off the info Lukewarm gave, and Nero...idk, maybe him hinting he had some kind of scavenger role?In post 1080, fireisredsir wrote:earlier i thought vivax could be scum TMIing that the BBT kill was a vig kill, since he didnt seem to understand that me/furtive were talking from the perspective of thinking "this is a weird kill for mafia to make"
but in addition to thinking his play just feels like his towngame, i think its more likely that he is actually just a vig TMIing that BBT kill was a vig kill
But scum seeing BBT play like that could assume he was hiding a good PR, and so he did. So why should it be weird, unless you knew the kills?
Kinda surprised Uncrowned isn't dead tbh, gave you quite a bit of fire
Aside from play, the claim is a scumclaim.-
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I already did........In post 1262, jjh927 wrote:
Could you elaborate on the full percentage costs including the extra for the reply thing?In post 1254, Roden wrote:
...What? Why does anyone ever use a role?In post 1245, Ausuka wrote:Why did you decide to use this role?-
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She is saying that your role is bad, and any townie would have chosen to not use their ability.In post 1267, Roden wrote:Can you just tell me what you're actually accusing me of here
Because right now you're having a conversation but it's not with me
And since you used your ability, you must be scum.-
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I see where you claiming 5% with no modifier.In post 1269, Roden wrote:
I already did........In post 1262, jjh927 wrote:
Could you elaborate on the full percentage costs including the extra for the reply thing?In post 1254, Roden wrote:
...What? Why does anyone ever use a role?In post 1245, Ausuka wrote:Why did you decide to use this role?
I don't see where you claimed the % with the modifier-
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I mean honestly I still think that role should never be used because mailman is basically useless imo and if there are multiple such roles which have low percentages they can give scum a nightkill without doing much, if anything, for town
That said I guess I could see someone not agreeing
pedit: What I was getting at is it's easier to ignore the percentages when it's not in your role PM and your first response to me was just like "why would anyone ever not use a role" which I was kind of baffled by
That said now I remember you said you used the 5% version the point isn't as importantNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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It's talking about a nightkill in a conversational way, and the obvious implication is that you would never nightkill Petapan because you were about to vote them. It's you giving yourself towncred and broadcasting it, like Obama with the medal.
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Why...do I bring up my role or how useless it is then? Like, willingly, as scum, unprompted?In post 1270, Lukewarm wrote:
She is saying that your role is bad, and any townie would have chosen to not use their ability.In post 1267, Roden wrote:Can you just tell me what you're actually accusing me of here
Because right now you're having a conversation but it's not with me
And since you used your ability, you must be scum.
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