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[scamper]

um, so

[Frogsterking]

Menalque (high certain scum flip) -> S_S (moderate certain scum flip) -> Dease (low certain scum flip) -> fire (very low certain scum flip)

is where my head is at right now. If fire, Dease or S_S are Town then they need to Town about a little bit. Menalque is pretty obviously on anti spew so I'm not sure why it's rational to wait on them for another prodge when it was okay to push Tweet through yesterday.

[Ydrasse]

menalque waiting room

[Frogsterking]

In my timezone Menalque posted a string of delicious nothing-burger late Wednesday morning, disappeared for 36 hours, popped in late Friday night and posted this:

Yo, sorry, I’ve been really busy and got ill and completely forgot this game existed

This is just a check in to say I’m still here, I will be around more later

and has disappeared for another 16 hours and counting. I'm looking forward to Menalque's return in 20 hours so we can read about how their sick dog peed on their laptop and they're gonna be super active but they have to run to the store to pick up some meds for their dog and their new laptop hasn't come in from newegg etc.

I'm finding it pretty hard to be invested in this game because of the long weekend in the US,

LOL

What's funny?

I still crack up about this sometimes.

If Menalque is ambitious they can try to top this for funniest line of the game. 6839 is too cliché.

[Frogsterking]

disappeared for 36 hours

My bad, Menalque disappeared for ~60 hours because they got an extra day due to the mod getting sick (Wednesday morning - Friday evening FMPOV.) That's too bad 6839 is the best they could come up with after all that time to make up an excuse.

[Ausuka]

I don't think Mena would make up being sick as an excuse

It's sort of frustrating sure but I'm willing to wait for it

[Datisi]

menalque waiting room

in other news, i may or may not have an even stronger townread on frogsterking now for the last few posts. as much as they are very unpleasant to read and play with, they show conviction that i struggle to think scum-frogs shows.

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: Datisi

[Ausuka]

I hardclaim combined gunsmith rolecop.

On night 1 I targeted Datisi and he doesn't have a gun and he is a doctor. Presumably this makes him town because doctors are always town.

On night 2 I targeted scamper. He has a gun and his role is strongman. However I don't think we should eliminate him because he's funny.

[Datisi]

I hardclaim combined gunsmith rolecop.

On night 1 I targeted Datisi and he doesn't have a gun and he is a doctor. Presumably this makes him town because doctors are always town.

On night 2 I targeted scamper. He has a gun and his role is strongman. However I don't think we should eliminate him because he's funny.

i almost choked on the apple i am eating

[Datisi]

VOTE: Datisi

you gonna explain why you're voting the clear or is this a meme vote

[Frogsterking]

I don't think Mena would make up being sick as an excuse

It's sort of frustrating sure but I'm willing to wait for it

The upside of being optimistic and trusting by temperament is that it's easier to see the good in other players and you're less likely to get sucked into pointless shit fights with other Townies. The downside of being optimistic and cooperative by temperament is that you're more likely to get sucked into obvious bull shit. Overall I'd be tempted to choose optimistic and trusting over pessimistic and paranoid but we don't have a choice about that and this is one of the few situations where my shitty temperament is actually conducive to effective Town play.

[Frogsterking]

I hardclaim combined gunsmith rolecop.

On night 1 I targeted Datisi and he doesn't have a gun and he is a doctor. Presumably this makes him town because doctors are always town.

On night 2 I targeted scamper. He has a gun and his role is strongman. However I don't think we should eliminate him because he's funny.

LOL

[Ausuka]

I mean, I'm not an idiot. I don't think getting sick is obvious bullshit at all, really. It happens pretty often to me and has affected me in mafia before. I also don't think Menalque is the kind of person who's not capable of posting as scum.

[Dannflor]

Yeah I don’t think that’s BS and I would consider it in kinda poor taste if it was

Still it makes this game a snooze

Like I just don’t know what to do

[Datisi]

i've seen mena lurk out as scum, and it doesn't involve lying about irl

[Frogsterking]

I mean, I'm not an idiot. I don't think getting sick is obvious bullshit at all, really. It happens pretty often to me and has affected me in mafia before. I also don't think Menalque is the kind of person who's not capable of posting as scum.

I know you're not an idiot in fact I suspect you're pretty smart, I was implying you're optimistic (due to extraversion) and trusting (due to agreeableness) and therefore more likely to make an overly positive assessment of Menalque's play. For example:

• 1) If Menalque isn't posting because he got sick, why did he also say he's been busy and forgot about the game in 6855? That implies he doesn't feel being sick is a sufficient justification for his level of activity and that his sickness isn't severe enough to impair any of his other regular activities.
  
  2) If Menalque isn't solving because he's too sick, why did he make 32 posts which make no progress toward achieving any reads or resolution toward his own understanding of the game state? Do you think he was already sick but didn't realize and was too cognitively impaired to behave like he was Town? I don't.

Menalque is lying by saying he's sick whether or not his sickness is real because his narrative about being too sick to post is intended deliberately to mislead us about his real reason for not posting.

[Ydrasse]

speculating on someone being sick or not irl is crummy and we should avoid it

[Ausuka]

I mean, things are more complicated than that. Being sick makes it harder to operate, not impossible. If you're sick and have things to do, it's especially hard to think about mafia, and it can slip from your mind. Mena can be scum and still telling the truth. I like him and think he would act honourably by not lying about this.

In the meantime, like, I guess I can iso fire and check for associatives with Gamma which is something I probably should have done already but I got distracted by Azelf.

[Nero Cain]

We are not voting the guilty on scamper why? Or was this a joke?

[Frogsterking]

I have a response.

[Nero Cain]

Are combined roles not normal and it was a joke claim?

[Datisi]

combined roles are normal but i have a hunch that is a joke claim

[Ausuka]

We are not voting the guilty on scamper why? Or was this a joke?

Because he's funny, obviously

(It was a joke)

[Nero Cain]

I don't really find either funny but w/e back to mostly ignoring this game