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Post Post #7975 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:35 am

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In post 7970, scamper wrote::thumbsup:

how r u on this fine day while we await the mod lock
I am ill unfortunately and feel like a potato
No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.
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Post Post #7976 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:35 am

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maybe it wasn't strictly that but like, its a bigger momentum shift
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Post Post #7977 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:36 am

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hope u feel better ausuka
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Post Post #7978 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:36 am

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In post 7974, fireisredsir wrote:i read someone say once that the later in the game the first scumflip happens, the more it favors the town

idk if thats true or not but its an interesting idea
I feel like there's a middle ground here

Maybe scum flips d1 don't help much but also like I suspect a scum not flipping until day 5 or something is going to lead to scum wins a lot
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Post Post #7979 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:37 am

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In post 7977, fireisredsir wrote:hope u feel better ausuka
Thanks!! I' don't have that much energy but I tried to clean my room while I'm off so maybe the good atmosphere will help
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Post Post #7980 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:38 am

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d1 scumflips can be bad (unless the entire scumteam potatoes) because generally scum doesn't look horrible from them and then a few town flips happen and then the game goes to shit
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Post Post #7981 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:43 am

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I think the biggest downside of early scumflips result is that they give less useful associatives/interactions, especially in 9p setups with a 2p team

like if you imagine a mafia game where it starts as 5 people and only one of them is mafia, that's hard for town to win if the scum player is competent, there's so little actual tangible information
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Post Post #7982 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:44 am

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yeah I think it's just generally a little harder to find the rest of the scum as opposed to if scum flips D2 or D3

i agree there is probable a point of diminishing returns and win rate
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Post Post #7983 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:44 am

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In post 7973, Dannflor wrote:also hot take but D1 scum flips in larges are usually bad for town motivation long term
eh i think data shows flipping scum earlier is better than later (big shock) but it can be harder to find associatives with an early flip
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Post Post #7984 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:45 am

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personally my biggest takeaway is it's probably not good play to let scum claim your role for 3 straight days while shooting and pushing consensus town
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Post Post #7985 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:45 am

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In post 7981, GuiltyLion wrote:mafia game where it starts as 5 people and only one of them is mafia
that's not mafia

also yes, a while ago ducky told me that the ultimate strategy as scum in micros is "lolbus day 1 cruise into yeetlo" and they had a point
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Post Post #7986 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:46 am

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In post 7975, Ausuka wrote:
In post 7970, scamper wrote::thumbsup:

how r u on this fine day while we await the mod lock
I am ill unfortunately and feel like a potato
im sorry to hear that! i hope u feel better soon
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Post Post #7987 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:47 am

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In post 7985, Datisi wrote:
In post 7981, GuiltyLion wrote:mafia game where it starts as 5 people and only one of them is mafia
that's not mafia

also yes, a while ago ducky told me that the ultimate strategy as scum in micros is "lolbus day 1 cruise into yeetlo" and they had a point
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Post Post #7988 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:47 am

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Post Post #7990 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:51 am

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i retract my mason claim fuck you
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Post Post #7991 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:52 am

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(for legal reasons that is a joke)
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Post Post #7992 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:53 am

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I'm vigging either Mena or Shea if I am a vig.

If I am an investigative, I'll investigate Dann or Fire.

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Post Post #7993 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:58 am

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sounds fun
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Post Post #7994 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:02 am

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I'd really prefer Menalque over Shea if you are vigging

Shea at least has a pulse
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Post Post #7995 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:07 am

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In post 7994, Dannflor wrote:I'd really prefer Menalque over Shea if you are vigging

Shea at least has a pulse
Shea wants out and I can trust you to eliminate Mena. Hence the waffle.
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Post Post #7996 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:39 am

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:)
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Post Post #7997 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:54 am

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I mean obviously my preference would be to remain alive and finding scum but I'm so sick of being scum read while I'm doing it. So its more like...It would be nice to stop fighting.
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Post Post #7998 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:20 am

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I feel like theoretically bussing is just always a good idea as scum but it tends to make people upset so I avoid it.

Also good night all
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Post Post #7999 (ISO) » Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:33 am

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In post 7998, DeasVail wrote:I feel like theoretically bussing is just always a good idea as scum but it tends to make people upset so I avoid it.

Also good night all
Our hydra as scum would have constant dissonance. I don't like bussing lol
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