Open 866: CK9++ [game over!]

[SirCakez]

im not scum fuck off

[SirCakez]

pooky probably is scum cuz his obsession with me this game is absurd

[SirCakez]

i just want to kill obvscum Mala though idc about SK hunting

[SirCakez]

VT

how is this the only thing she had to drop in to say? really?

[Malakittens]

I was about to go to bed.

When the site was down was when I was actually able to be active. I have been working this whole week since Sunday and Sat is my first day off/birthday.

[Bellaphant]

@dv, I've made my reads, I feel like I'm just bored by this sk/mafia thing. Ask me questions?

[SirCakez]

I was about to go to bed.

When the site was down was when I was actually able to be active. I have been working this whole week since Sunday and Sat is my first day off/birthday.

ok I have sympathy I hope we can get something more tmrw

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I might lean towards pooky being a good vote rn
I do think Bella isn't groupscum and am willing to wager both the bg claims are town so gotta sort out the last 4
think best course of action might be solve for groupscum then figure out the Sk in the remainder

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the sk is literally the only person who can kill you r u serious

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if we lim the sk we win the game automatically

groupscum cant kill thru doctor + 2 BGs

[SirCakez]

yeah but limming scum in general is good I'd rather lim someone who is like basically a 100% hit for scum then YOLO trying to get the SK and mislim

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

elimming mafia means sk kills the doctor tonight and mafia kills a bg and you play hunt for the sk at elo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is like basic mech

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also if i was actually mafia id probly just let myself get eliminated so the sk stays alive and kills gamma and breaks the chain loop for me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its like nobody in this game understands how the mech is supposed to work rofl

[Enchant]

5 town alive.
2 mafia alive.
1 SK alive.

We elim town > mafia shot outside, SK kills protective. Most likely result: 2 conftown, 2 mafia, 1 SK. Situation is pretty sad.
We elim mafia > mafia shot outside, SK kills protective. Most likely result: 3 town (2 conf), 1 mafia, 1 SK. Winnable potentially, but can still be fucked up.
We elim SK > mafia shot outside and can't kill Doctor+BG pair. Win in most situations, expect totally incompetence.

Not assuming mafia can try to kill BG (but doctor can stop them hopefully) or mafia shoting SK. Then situation will change (for better or worse).

Just in a case i don't really care, if you WANT to go for long possible win, then fine?


Btw

message for SK

.

Spoiler: for SK (don't read if you are not but you will do it anyway

Killing Doctor is same thing for you as killing BG, it removes conftown. You are ignoring all protections and can't be stopped.

But consider this: You are in pool of 5 players, 2 of them are mafia. If mafia wants to kill you, they very likely to deduce you and at worst it's 1/3 chance for them. And they will likely to want to kill you, if they believe you are killing Doctor this night, so there's no one disrupting them from shitfight with town (which they can win actually if doctor removed and you are dead, not otherwise).
If we somehow elim town, then killing Doctor is worst decision you can make here, as it's spells doom on you (1/2 chance to kill you for mafia so they can miselim remaining town and win). Alive doctor in other situations will mostly make your life just more comfortable, as mafia will be reluctant to touch you. Simple existance of this message protects you from their anger, yeah. So there's really no point in losing this advantage.

As long as Doctor alive, you are keyfigure mafia will not want to lose and will protect. If Doctor perish or believed to die at night, mostly mafia will want to remove you ASAP or throw you under bus. You have no harm from doctor being alive. Mafia do.

I propose this (regardless of how elim wents):
I bodyguard Gamma.
Deus bodyguard Gamma.
Gamma protects Me OR Deus with 50%/50% chance, so if mafia decides to shot at BGs, they will never be sure. Blocking hit will be gradual help.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

5 town alive.
2 mafia alive.
1 SK alive.

We elim town > mafia shot outside, SK kills protective. Most likely result: 2 conftown, 2 mafia, 1 SK. Situation is pretty sad.
We elim mafia > mafia shot outside, SK kills protective. Most likely result: 3 town (2 conf), 1 mafia, 1 SK. Winnable potentially, but can still be fucked up.
We elim SK > mafia shot outside and can't kill Doctor+BG pair. Win in most situations, expect totally incompetence.

Not assuming mafia can try to kill BG (but doctor can stop them hopefully) or mafia shoting SK. Then situation will change (for better or worse).

Just in a case i don't really care, if you WANT to go for long possible win, then fine?


Btw

message for SK

.

Spoiler: for SK (don't read if you are not but you will do it anyway

Killing Doctor is same thing for you as killing BG, it removes conftown. You are ignoring all protections and can't be stopped.

But consider this: You are in pool of 5 players, 2 of them are mafia. If mafia wants to kill you, they very likely to deduce you and at worst it's 1/3 chance for them. And they will likely to want to kill you, if they believe you are killing Doctor this night, so there's no one disrupting them from shitfight with town (which they can win actually if doctor removed and you are dead, not otherwise).
If we somehow elim town, then killing Doctor is worst decision you can make here, as it's spells doom on you (1/2 chance to kill you for mafia so they can miselim remaining town and win). Alive doctor in other situations will mostly make your life just more comfortable, as mafia will be reluctant to touch you. Simple existance of this message protects you from their anger, yeah. So there's really no point in losing this advantage.

As long as Doctor alive, you are keyfigure mafia will not want to lose and will protect. If Doctor perish or believed to die at night, mostly mafia will want to remove you ASAP or throw you under bus. You have no harm from doctor being alive. Mafia do.

I propose this (regardless of how elim wents):
I bodyguard Gamma.
Deus bodyguard Gamma.
Gamma protects Me OR Deus with 50%/50% chance, so if mafia decides to shot at BGs, they will never be sure. Blocking hit will be gradual help.

2 conftown 2 mafia 1 sk is still a town win

[Enchant]

no

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

math it out

[Enchant]

Math can't help if mafia decides just to let SK win for being solo role.

Going in situation where scum controls who win is losing at first place, and you can't math cockroaches in head.

[Frogsterking]

If we kill SK today, mafia will most likely concede, as it's like 1% percent win for them. So we need to do so. Somehow.

That explains a lot actually (Pooky's OMGUS onto me.) He had to pivot onto me off of Cakez to avoid auto loss.

My solve for the VTs are

Pooky groupscum
Mala groupscum
Frog VT
Bella VT
Cakez SK

I'm pretty confident but I'll wait like 12 hours or w.e

VOTE: Cakez

Okay I stand by this with

moderate

certainty. The fact that Pooky pushed Cakez so hard yesterday makes me think they aren't paired.

[Gamma Emerald]

the sk is literally the only person who can kill you r u serious

yeah that's what I'm saying
groupscum have partner associations, SK doesn't
but by figuring out who is likely mafia, we can subtract those players from the SK pool to determine where to vote today

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bruh thats what im saying

[Gamma Emerald]

so you misread my post.

[SirCakez]

The fact that Pooky pushed Cakez so hard yesterday makes me think they aren't paired.

Pooky always pushes me