Depends entirely on which immunity they chose, which we have no way of knowing at this point, so... I don't find this line of thinking useful or relevant.
That is the relevancy. And it's something at least the cop should be considering
In post 201, Testarossa wrote:My usual rule of thumb on a slow wagon with no backlash and D1 scumflip is that it might have been a bus, but I don't really see it here. Enchant just nah, rats remained on Galron despite signalizing they could compromise on Gypyx. Their interactions with Galron don't seem like partners either. ceejay neither, his vote was the nail on Galron's coffin with abandoning Gypyx, he could have just waited for rats compromising.
What do you think about meg being a potential busser? imo the bahavior fits
-> tried to help the wagon on me get though the end
-> basically never told an opinion on the galron wagon, even though he showed some fairly big interest towards it
In post 105, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Meg I don’t understand why you are more pinged by 34 where ceejay has a vote that he’s not particularly confident on but you have no concerns with 79 where galron has a confident read that he has yet to explain?
It's not the vote I had the problem with, it was that they were asked if they had a reason and they basically replied yes, but im not saying it
i'm also actually wondering why Enchant is given a pass by so many peoples
I guess I'll consolidate on a wagon that can go through
I'm having a quick read through and catch up. I know that Meg hammered Galron, but this stood out for me and it reeks IMO. The tide may have been altering to Gypsy in terms of attention but Galron was still the highest wagon available with others stating that they aren't switching, so I don't know how the Gypsy wagon was the only wagon that could go through. So in my eyes this vote was to possibly try and sway it from Galron who we all know has flipped scum now, this could have been the last ditch attempt to try and take it away from Galron to gypsy. Meg even at one point had Galron in there town reads I also read. So this strikes me as a potential partner.
In post 201, Testarossa wrote:So the Galron wagon was at two votes for most of the time without any real backlash. When rats joined the Gypyx wagon came up. However from flipped town and ceejay, who I am still townreading.
My usual rule of thumb on a slow wagon with no backlash and D1 scumflip is that it might have been a bus, but I don't really see it here. Enchant just nah, rats remained on Galron despite signalizing they could compromise on Gypyx. Their interactions with Galron don't seem like partners either. ceejay neither, his vote was the nail on Galron's coffin with abandoning Gypyx, he could have just waited for rats compromising.
Chances are not too bad that this was mostly town. Or at least non-scum. Doubts still on Meg though.
That would mean, that there was no fighting because Galron's partner wasn't really present, which would imply Gypyx or Kop. It's noticeable that Galron avoided voting Gypyx and Meg, which would have been maybe the best shots to get out alive. Well, maybe Meg not so much.
I think Galron was prodded around the time he was lynched, so he may have not been around long enough to make a move to try save himself. Which would point to Meg since Meg voted for Gypsy allowing Galron the chance to move over and save himself, but since Galron wasn't around, Meg may have had zero chance but vote for Galron.
In post 230, MegAzumarill wrote:I mean I was genuinely playing to avoid a Galron lim and the only difference there between scum! and town me there is probably motivation
If Meg is a Galron buddy making this post, I’d be seriously impressed because you very rarely see scum just straight up admit to that.
In post 230, MegAzumarill wrote:I mean I was genuinely playing to avoid a Galron lim and the only difference there between scum! and town me there is probably motivation
If Meg is a Galron buddy making this post, I’d be seriously impressed because you very rarely see scum just straight up admit to that.
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In post 230, MegAzumarill wrote:I mean I was genuinely playing to avoid a Galron lim and the only difference there between scum! and town me there is probably motivation
If Meg is a Galron buddy making this post, I’d be seriously impressed because you very rarely see scum just straight up admit to that.
I see your point about scum admitting to that, but it still doesn't rule out that she could be Galrons partner in all of this.
She had the motivation to try and turn it onto Gypsy giving Galron the opportunity to save himself but he wasn't around, so had no other choice to vote for Galron.
While it is of course POSSIBLE that Meg is Galron's buddy, I think their behavior around the elimination looks more like how scum treats a mislim than a buddy. In fact, had Galron actually flipped Town or SK, I'd probably be on Meg now.
The townread without much substance, offering weak resistance to the wagon, then making an ostensibly reluctant hammer feels like the kind of thing scum does when they know a slot is going to flip green. However, that can't be the case since Galron did not actually flip green, so I'm more inclined to believe it was just a genuine read from Meg.
What I really don't like here is how you're deflecting onto Meg without addressing your own behavior. It did seem like you were trying to shade Galron somewhat, but you never saw fit to vote there. Or anywhere else for that matter. Why?
In post 201, Testarossa wrote:My usual rule of thumb on a slow wagon with no backlash and D1 scumflip is that it might have been a bus, but I don't really see it here. Enchant just nah, rats remained on Galron despite signalizing they could compromise on Gypyx. Their interactions with Galron don't seem like partners either. ceejay neither, his vote was the nail on Galron's coffin with abandoning Gypyx, he could have just waited for rats compromising.
What do you think about meg being a potential busser? imo the bahavior fits
-> tried to help the wagon on me get though the end
-> basically never told an opinion on the galron wagon, even though he showed some fairly big interest towards it
In post 105, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Meg I don’t understand why you are more pinged by 34 where ceejay has a vote that he’s not particularly confident on but you have no concerns with 79 where galron has a confident read that he has yet to explain?
It's not the vote I had the problem with, it was that they were asked if they had a reason and they basically replied yes, but im not saying it
i'm also actually wondering why Enchant is given a pass by so many peoples
Huuuh. No one's giving Enchant a pass. He hasn't done anything so far that makes me want to vote him.
Also, that didn't really feel like a bus. I feel like Meg voted Galron to help make the elim happen.
You also practically ignored the Galron wagon and just let it through, which feels much worse than Meg compromising on their read for town's sake.
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
In post 105, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Meg I don’t understand why you are more pinged by 34 where ceejay has a vote that he’s not particularly confident on but you have no concerns with 79 where galron has a confident read that he has yet to explain?
It's not the vote I had the problem with, it was that they were asked if they had a reason and they basically replied yes, but im not saying it
I find most hammers are rather nai. Tbf if I would have been in Meg's shoes I would have just lurked it out at eod and gambled for the no lim. After all neither you, Kop or imaginality did when they were there. Although that's what I would have made, not necessarily Meg. I kind of feel if Meg would be the partner they would have just hammered earlier, like it was already earlier clear how it would end.
Yeah, some of Meg's actions aren't looking to good for them, their ceejay scumread is still something I have to review, because I remember it felt so insincere.
I disagree about never giving an opinion about the Galron wagon though. When I asked them for it they said it felt like town on town wagon for them, which is imo strategically not a good statement as scum as it limits your options unnecessarily, especially with Galron being the lone leading wagon at that point 2 days before deadline.
In post 218, Gypyx wrote:
i'm also actually wondering why Enchant is given a pass by so many peoples
I see you bothered a lot about Enchant and talking about Enchant with others, but never really talking with Enchant.You said you don't like with what Enchat chooses to interact with, yet you don't try to poke him and engage with him on other grounds. Why no attempts in that regard?
Also can you explain how your read developed on rats? 128 looks like you suspected them to be possibly scum at some point?
I'm inclined to vote Kop here because I don't feel the push on me from them is in good faith (as compared to say Gypyx that gives off a different context)
