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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:32 am

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In post 173, BlueSnakelet wrote:What I think it's happening is: Spartan is scum, and knows Greeting will flip town. By saying "pushing Greeting would be great for me, but idk, this overly scummy player might be town" Spartan is setting up a Day 2 where they can say "See? I was right! Y'all should've listened to me. See how great of a townie I am?"
This would be suspect if I was voting them and on their wagon, but im.not, and I'm not pushing them as town as much as you're pretending I am, all I did was share my concerns and reservations from my previous experience where I've seen players be sus day 1 and they are still town, Bella and BBT here will have seen me hard push wagons day 1 on someone doing what they have previously and I am trying to learn from my mistakes and get better at reading sussy inexperienced town to someone who is scum. I have honestly not looked through everything enough yet I just wanted to share some surface thoughts earlier, believe me or don't its up to you, I'm just trying to share what I'm thinking.

Also pushing greeting wouldn't be great for me as it is a clear and obvious tactic used by both alignments to try and relieve pressure. It would be the typical thing for someone to do that is being pressured, jump on the other wagon and try and get then elimed to save their behind. Like I said I've not fully caught up yet and will do hopefully tonight if not part way tonight part way tomorrow.

If Greeting gets themselves eliminated that's not down to me and me sharing my reservations about that because of past experiences. Its down to their own play and other players scum reading them because of it, I'm starting to wonder if they are scum if this is a gambit by their scum partner to try and push the other wagon to save their scum buddy from the pressure they brought on themselves.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:50 am

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In post 174, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 173, BlueSnakelet wrote:t isn't illogical to assume Greeting might be eliminated without Spartan's involvement
Its
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I said it
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:57 am

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In post 175, Spartan117 wrote:Also pushing greeting wouldn't be great for me as it is a clear and obvious tactic used by both alignments to try and relieve pressure.
You said before "It would be thought that I would want to try to join Greetings wagon and push them especially for their suspect push on me". If pushing Greeting wouldn't be great for you, then who would be "thinking" that?
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:03 am

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My point is that you're counting on Greeting being eliminated
without your help
, letting them flip town, while saying that pushing Greeting is what you would be doing if you didn't think Greeting was town.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:05 am

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why do you think greeting is town blue?
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:44 am

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VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:45 am

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In post 179, Tapiocaphobe wrote:why do you think greeting is town blue?
I don't know why do you think they're mafia. The towniest Greeting has ever been in this game was the start, when they were probing P6 for info during the P6 vs Bella confrontation. After that, their actions were just null to me. I'm suspecting Spartan, P6 or Bella before I'm suspecting Greeting.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:50 am

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In post 181, BlueSnakelet wrote:
In post 179, Tapiocaphobe wrote:why do you think greeting is town blue?
I don't know why do you think they're mafia. The towniest Greeting has ever been in this game was the start, when they were probing P6 for info during the P6 vs Bella confrontation. After that, their actions were just null to me. I'm suspecting Spartan, P6 or Bella before I'm suspecting Greeting.
I brought forward a case against Greeting, and you have dismissed it.
Why do you disagree with my case?
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:55 am

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In post 181, BlueSnakelet wrote:
In post 179, Tapiocaphobe wrote:why do you think greeting is town blue?
I don't know why do you think they're mafia. The towniest Greeting has ever been in this game was the start, when they were probing P6 for info during the P6 vs Bella confrontation. After that, their actions were just null to me. I'm suspecting Spartan, P6 or Bella before I'm suspecting Greeting.
greeting has very few pro-town posts and lots of anti-town posts. I see what could be attempts to sort at the start of the game, but look somewhat passive. the scumhunting doesn't feel genuinely motivated to me.
greeting's defense has been terrible; they've scumread three people for calling out their lack of hunting, and in particular 168 is a poor rebuttal of NK15's posts that I don't think comes from a town mindset at all.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:58 am

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In post 182, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 181, BlueSnakelet wrote:
In post 179, Tapiocaphobe wrote:why do you think greeting is town blue?
I don't know why do you think they're mafia. The towniest Greeting has ever been in this game was the start, when they were probing P6 for info during the P6 vs Bella confrontation. After that, their actions were just null to me. I'm suspecting Spartan, P6 or Bella before I'm suspecting Greeting.
I brought forward a case against Greeting, and you have dismissed it.
Why do you disagree with my case?
For one, because you didn't answer my #156 question.

And I don't think it's weird to suspect Spartan based on their entrance, or be inactive while the game laid dead. And that bit at the start is more than the 0 scum hunting you claim they did.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:00 am

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In post 178, BlueSnakelet wrote:My point is that you're counting on Greeting being eliminated
Why are you pushing this fake narrative, ive not given off that impression at all? Are you just speculating for effect? I've not had a chance to sit down and go through the last several pages properly and you are saying I'm doing all this stuff against Greeting when I've not been... its alarming at the very least. Why are you chosing to bypass the content that has been produced how about you interact with that, like I intend to rather than trying to push false narratives...
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:08 am

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In post 184, BlueSnakelet wrote:For one, because you didn't answer my #156 question.
You disagree with them because they didn't answer your question? How petty

Tell me why its correct to actually sus me for my entrance especially with it having been explained, I can understand it being misunderstood, but after its been explained you seem blinded by agenda rather than logic...

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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:08 am

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In post 180, Looker wrote:VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
Youre voting the wrong Blue
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:13 am

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In post 185, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 178, BlueSnakelet wrote:My point is that you're counting on Greeting being eliminated
Why are you pushing this fake narrative, ive not given off that impression at all? Are you just speculating for effect? I've not had a chance to sit down and go through the last several pages properly and you are saying I'm doing all this stuff against Greeting when I've not been... its alarming at the very least. Why are you chosing to bypass the content that has been produced how about you interact with that, like I intend to rather than trying to push false narratives...
Yeah, I'm probably just overanalyzing your post, aren't I?
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:14 am

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In post 184, BlueSnakelet wrote:
In post 182, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 181, BlueSnakelet wrote:
In post 179, Tapiocaphobe wrote:why do you think greeting is town blue?
I don't know why do you think they're mafia. The towniest Greeting has ever been in this game was the start, when they were probing P6 for info during the P6 vs Bella confrontation. After that, their actions were just null to me. I'm suspecting Spartan, P6 or Bella before I'm suspecting Greeting.
I brought forward a case against Greeting, and you have dismissed it.
Why do you disagree with my case?
For one, because you didn't answer my #156 question.

And I don't think it's weird to suspect Spartan based on their entrance, or be inactive while the game laid dead. And that bit at the start is more than the 0 scum hunting you claim they did.
Well, different from their towngame mostly, but not in a way that fits their town mindset.
(The rest was probably not addressed to me?)
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:15 am

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In post 186, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 184, BlueSnakelet wrote:For one, because you didn't answer my #156 question.
You disagree with them because they didn't answer your question? How petty

Tell me why its correct to actually sus me for my entrance especially with it having been explained, I can understand it being misunderstood, but after its been explained you seem blinded by agenda rather than logic...

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No. I'm not convinced by their logic because I have unanswered doubts.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 am

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In post 189, Not Known 15 wrote:Well, different from their towngame mostly, but not in a way that fits their town mindset.
Have you played or read any games with Greeting? If so, how does their scum game compares woth their "normal" town game?
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:53 am

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In post 191, BlueSnakelet wrote:
In post 189, Not Known 15 wrote:Well, different from their towngame mostly, but not in a way that fits their town mindset.
Have you played or read any games with Greeting? If so, how does their scum game compares woth their "normal" town game?
I've played with Town Greeting. The games I read for scum Greeting seem to tell me that scum Greeting has a
higher range
of actions than town greeting, which is unusual.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:33 am

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Alright so its late and I've not got time to read through will have to be tomorrow night when I get in, any off the cuff questions that don't require me to read through posts I'll be around sporadically tomorrow while at work.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:11 pm

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In post 171, Tapiocaphobe wrote:
how is this "blatantly untrue"? i don't see any attempts to sort in your iso.

i want to flip greeting today
There must be something wrong with whatever you're doing then, because scumhunting has been my main focus until I started getting scumread by you and
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:13 pm

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UNVOTE: Spartan117

This was a red herring.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 8:16 pm

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In post 187, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 180, Looker wrote:VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
Youre voting the wrong Blue
He's voting the right blue.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:54 pm

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In post 194, Greeting wrote:
In post 171, Tapiocaphobe wrote:
how is this "blatantly untrue"? i don't see any attempts to sort in your iso.

i want to flip greeting today
There must be something wrong with whatever you're doing then, because scumhunting has been my main focus until I started getting scumread by you and
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for some mysterious reason
.
Can we lim this already, please?
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:53 am

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Eh, I think this could be greetings town game. Dislike that two people turned up with the same narrative at the same time about them.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:17 am

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Sometimes suspect behaviour is just how some people play town or scum which makes it extra hard trying to fish out which side they are on :/

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