House of the Dragon - Game Over!

[Datisi]

dwlee provide a genuine reason why i'm scum that isn't some bullshit contradiction from page 2 challenge (300% impossible)

[Dwlee99]

no

[Andante]

I will shoot the next person who posts a thought from rhae in this thread.

Why? I have her as lock town from yesterday where she was clearly following the thread and like when she voted for me, it was at a point she really didn't have to as scum, like if momentum was going to shift to me, that was the moment, and I quite honestly find that towny. So why would you not want thoughts from a town? If that's how we're playing, I'll only share my thoughts with my PT peeps then cause like you said you wanted people's thoughts on what to do, Rhae spent time thinking, and gave you thoughts. I thought you were "saving your posts"

since you announced that it has been "vote LLD" and "I don't want to hear from rhea"

like, you don't have to live by her exact thoughts, it's not like any of us are giving ALL of her posts, that one was important... so Charl gave it...


is this just gonna be a game of "no one talks, we do what I say" cause yeah... that's not really gonna fly...


ok back to my fun PT I go,

Charl and Rhea are lock town, I'd put them on council, but hey we don't want opinions sooo byeeee

[Datisi]

dwlee is scum

they're usually not shit at reading me, i'm p sure they've claimed so multiple times, and the few times they did scumread me when i was town, the thoughts they had on me actually MADE SENSE and they were re-evaluating me as the game went on

none of this is genuine

[Firebringer]

is dwlee more scum than lukewarm datisi

[Datisi]

yes

they weren't 10 minutes ago, but this is actively horrible in a way i highly doubt comes from town-them

[Firebringer]

VOTE: dwlee
datisi is the king of the north everyone

[Lukewarm]

Also @luke so ur just saying u don't want me as council. Okay but doesn't that equal scumread? Or u just saying u don't trust me with power. I don't get what kind of position u even have on me here. Why the hell do u want bella as council and she is town to u.

You are still misreading. Like you post right here is saying nearly the opposite of where I had you and Bella.


My post says that Bella should not be in the council at all. It has you listed in the you are in the mish mash of people that would not be my first choice (and therefore not in the slots I think are most important), but I would not actively fight against getting something either if TSQ just... disagreed with me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: LLD

Okay, as you wish.

[Firebringer]

no one taught me how to read

[Thestatusquo]

VOTE: LLD

Okay, as you wish.

Can you tell me what your town reads and scum reads are and specifically how they've evolved from like...day 2-3 of the king making phase.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

VOTE: LLD

Okay, as you wish.

Can you tell me what your town reads and scum reads are and specifically how they've evolved from like...day 2-3 of the king making phase.

Am I going to be wasting my time and then you just shoot me anyway?

Also I literally I a convo about this with VP Baltar but okay, shit. Let's do more work I guess.

[JunkoChan]

VOTE: LLD

Okay, as you wish.

Can you tell me what your town reads and scum reads are and specifically how they've evolved from like...day 2-3 of the king making phase.

Am I going to be wasting my time and then you just shoot me anyway?

Also I literally I a convo about this with VP Baltar but okay, shit. Let's do more work I guess.

King Shea won't shoot anyone today

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well, Dann, let me just say that if your name starts with D, I Don't Trust You currently.

Actually let me stretch that to A as well, wow that works cleanly.

I'm not sure who in that group of 5 names is actually scum but I don't trust the way any of you have approached the past 10 pages.

I also dislike Shea and Ti- Oh, hey, I'm not trustful of T's either.

Mastina is being a wildcard, which is standard.

I like Rhae, UNOwen, Luke and Junko for town, currently.

I have positive feelings for {GuiltyLion, Andante, JunkoChan} and to a lesser extent {VPB, Dannflor, Lukewarm}.

I wouldn’t have Datisi in my Small Council, or you LLD, or Enchant, and I don’t trust mastina just yet.

I think there’s enough AI content by a few other players I need to spend more time on. Like I feel like I should have a more fleshed out opinion on DW, firebringer, or Rhaenyra, but I don’t just yet.

Oh and I like the Professor - they can stay.

See, I like this!

Can you tell me more about GL and Andante?

and... also about Professor and VPB?

Merci

It's not wishywashy, oh my fucking god.

We're deciding on the power structure of the game, so I don't need to decide right this fucking second how scummy someone is, and by virtue of that I'm going to shove a lot of townies who are not giving me townie vibes into the no pile.

Right now all that matters is I find town. I'll decide and sort the bad from the worse after.

Right now, VPBaltar is not town enough for a town block in my opinion, and I'm questioning why in yours he is when you yourself ADMIT he is sitting on the sidelines, a view you share with me!

I agree that by far the most important thing right now is to pick Town for King, and so Scum hunting directly is not the right approach.

Look here’s what I don’t understand. I have a vote down for GuiltyLion to be King. So that’s my strongest read of the game. You’re getting way hung up on a secondary read I expressed that at this stage, has no immediate impact. Why don’t we do this - do you think GL is Scum?

I don't trust GL, no.

Shea improving with a little rage as fuel is town.

That rounds my five actually.

Owen Shea Junko Luke Rhae.

For Baltar, since he asked but I don't wanna quote the long post.

Mastina - Scum, her reads list makes less than 0 sense in its fabrication.
Luke - town
Shea - Town
Guilty Lion - ehhhhhhhhhhh. Really not sure. Some posts look town and other posts make me flinch.
Andres- Probably town.
Datisi - Not confident, but not confident in them being town.
Owen - Town.
Titus - Not on my town list currently, none of their catchup has sold me on what I need to see from them.
Dann - Dann... probably town, despite my first instincts. The UNOwen turn and way they discussed that sold me a bit.
and myself (VPB) - Don't trust you or your current approach to the game, feel very much like you're sat in a place scum would sit. Trust your skill enough to make you Hand of the King to cop people, not enough to trust your alignment, however.

This is the list of names you requested, my reads on them, and a bonus of the only slot I would consider putting you into my cabinet, Baltar.

[Lukewarm]

VOTE: LLD

Okay, as you wish.

Can you tell me what your town reads and scum reads are and specifically how they've evolved from like...day 2-3 of the king making phase.

Am I going to be wasting my time and then you just shoot me anyway?

Also I literally I a convo about this with VP Baltar but okay, shit. Let's do more work I guess.

King Shea won't shoot anyone today

Just to be clear, TSQ asked for this to be said to you via one of us us because he is low on posts, so this is a message from TSQ - not Junko's opinion on TSQ lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Dann went from scummy to town.

GL went from no trust to chewing on it.

Andante went from no trust to probably town.

Shea went from "sitting in scum spot to town"

VPB didn't change.

Mastina went from neutral to scum for the reads list.

I mean my progressions are very clearly seen in my posts. I don't know what you want from me, tbh. I've been evolving and town hunting for a while now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If Shea wants me to comment on a specific group of players like VPB did I'll gladly do that but my progression of reads as new info has come through has been in my opinion fairly obvious. I still believe most of what I found as townies and changed my mind on a few more.

[Dwlee99]

dwlee is scum

they're usually not shit at reading me, i'm p sure they've claimed so multiple times, and the few times they did scumread me when i was town, the thoughts they had on me actually MADE SENSE and they were re-evaluating me as the game went on

none of this is genuine

you blatantly weren't trying to read for my alignment on like page 5 homie

[Andresvmb]

dwlee is scum

they're usually not shit at reading me, i'm p sure they've claimed so multiple times, and the few times they did scumread me when i was town, the thoughts they had on me actually MADE SENSE and they were re-evaluating me as the game went on

none of this is genuine

you blatantly weren't trying to read for my alignment on like page 5 homie

You’ve blatantly failed to engage with me multiple times even though I asked you directly - why do you think you can make this accusation here at all?

[Dwlee99]

I didn't realize what I was voting for when I voted for enchant oh no oh no oh no

If you want to talk though, whyd you town ping me?

you usually rvs vote to yeet me

you also rvs voted me here

but we're not voting to yeet, we're voting for kinging

does baltar not know what we are voting for?

so he probably doesn't have access to a scum pt where they probably talked about it

am I town too

no

big think

[Dwlee99]

dwlee is scum

they're usually not shit at reading me, i'm p sure they've claimed so multiple times, and the few times they did scumread me when i was town, the thoughts they had on me actually MADE SENSE and they were re-evaluating me as the game went on

none of this is genuine

you blatantly weren't trying to read for my alignment on like page 5 homie

You’ve blatantly failed to engage with me multiple times even though I asked you directly - why do you think you can make this accusation here at all?

I don't think I've read a post of yours trying to engage with me before this one

not that I don't believe they exist btw

[Dannflor]

dwlee, if you're town, it seems like you're stuck engaging with people on a pretty surface level

I don't really see your reads changing or evolving at all

it seems like you are sticking with the first feelings you had when you first opened the thread

does that feel inaccurate? do you think the wagon on you is largely scum driven?

[UNOwen]

VOTE: dwlee

[Andresvmb]

dwlee is scum

they're usually not shit at reading me, i'm p sure they've claimed so multiple times, and the few times they did scumread me when i was town, the thoughts they had on me actually MADE SENSE and they were re-evaluating me as the game went on

none of this is genuine

you blatantly weren't trying to read for my alignment on like page 5 homie

You’ve blatantly failed to engage with me multiple times even though I asked you directly - why do you think you can make this accusation here at all?

I don't think I've read a post of yours trying to engage with me before this one

not that I don't believe they exist btw

I’ve expressed disappointment with your play I think multiple times because you’re actually a decent pusher of Scum and here you’re like falling to the sidelines in a way I really wouldn’t expect you to do.

[Dwlee99]

dwlee, if you're town, it seems like you're stuck engaging with people on a pretty surface level

I don't really see your reads changing or evolving at all

it seems like you are sticking with the first feelings you had when you first opened the thread

does that feel inaccurate? do you think the wagon on you is largely scum driven?

My first reads aren't super ingrained, I just don't have anything to place a bigger emphasis on because I have not kept up at all with the thread

Yea I think it's scum-driven that I have a bajillion naked votes on me