I agree I don't really get the Moonview wagon. Dann's push is, uh, strange. Not saying Moonview is town yet either however.
The Una vs Nona posts are attracting my attention most. I was going to say that I don't think either slot comes away looking amazing, but then reading Una's posts made me reconsider. Anyway, here's some vague rambling:
In post 93, Elements wrote:I like Pavowski for town
I want to tr nona but those three posts could easily be from scum
And Pavowski's grand total of eight posts could not come from scum?
It is so weird to shade somebody for only having 8 posts at this point in the game. What are we, like, sixteen hours in?
I mean there would be more but nobody was around to meme with last night
It's ok, I'll prove to you that I'm town soon enough
Unless you know it already
Cheeky bunny
It came out prickly, but the intention was to ask Elements about the apparent inconsistency in her reads, not to shade you. I have no problem with your posting so far.
In post 109, innocentvillager wrote:Ok Elements I guess I’ll just ask you directly. I remember you as mostly a lurker/low content slot why does it feel like you’re extra engaged this game so far
I took a hiatus for a couple of years, now I'm back with energy. Still excited for more mafia after the game that ended that Aisa was in and be got bamboozled
This is, in fact, my working theory about you so far.
Also same, except I'm back with an extra dose of cynicism and paranoia. Maybe I can be the biggest downer and joy killer in this game?
Here is another “0 level read” of mine. I also like this post as well. I like that Aisa is asking the reasoning for Elements’ different takes on me and Pavowski and clarifying that her questioning has more to do with Elements’ takes than her read on either me or Pavowski.
In post 134, Una wrote:Like 126 doesn't even contain anything that determines whether someone is town or scum
In post 153, Una wrote:Both scum and town would clarify a point. Miscommunication benefits every alignment except maybe jester.
So it's like a post pointing out someone is nice and helpful to clear comms but not actually commenting on her alignment. Or only doing so by acknowledging niceness and logic jumping to townness
I think my main issue with Una is that this seems kind of... nitpicky? I agree that all Nona does in 126 is describe facts and slap the word "like" in front of them, so 126 is not difficult to fake. It still seems nitpicky though.
In post 300, Pavowski wrote:Ok Elements, what are your thoughts on Moon, and/or what are your thoughts on Moon being e-2?
I think Moon is prob town.
2? of the votes of Moon are about her not being Ydrasse so idk what to think about that
+1
Need to catch up but that wagon is horrible. That slot is really obvtown.
Elements is also town. These two players should never be wagoned.
Pavowski, Moon is probably still Ydrasse but even if she isn’t, what is scum!Moon’s possible motive for claiming to lie about that? How does that further some kind of scum agenda in your mind? I’m well aware of lim all liars - if it even is an actual lie and not what I’m more inclined to view as probable trolling - but that’s a terrible reason for voting her.
I'm perfectly willing to be convinced on town!Moon. But obvtown? Obvtown??
I didn't vote Moon just because of the Ydrasse thing (as I said to IV shortly ago, I have expended all the fooks on that one that I'm gonna)
In post 317, Moonview wrote:I'd be interested in what people not on my wagon think of dannflor.
The thing that made me think his push on me wasn't genuine was the part he said I was scum because I shitposted and that wasn't the most important thing I could post upon entering the thread. I think that's an unfair standard to hold my posting to and I don't see why Dann pushes that line of argument as town. Is my assessment there unfair?
See, I think Dann has some decent points but maybe reads them too harshly/strongly (of course we're early game here so what can we do but blow theories out of proportion, wheee). This in particular is why I am taking Dann's read with a grain of salt.
In post 330, Pavowski wrote:Also y'alls can sign me up for some sus on the bunny, I don't vibe with the little hop into the thread here this evening
But I said I'd wait three days to vote there and I am a dude of my word
see you on day 3
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In post 162, JunkoChan wrote:Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?
unless they were both arlready in there
Wait, what?
> Una is at E-1
> Mafia sees it and doesn't hammer
How do these two facts imply Una is town?
if one scum partner hammers town he just tree stumps himself
in this setup they benefit a lot from ending this phase early
This just seems straight up wrong? If it's advantageous for scum to hammer immediately then surely if someone is at E-1 and isn't hammered, surely that's scum indicative for the wagonned party?
With how quickly Dann unvoted I agree it's probably insignificant but as Aisa posted before the unvote that makes me think she isn't scum with town!Una. Which I'm surprised Junko didn't mention?
In post 176, JunkoChan wrote:@Aisa true, but what are the odds that the first wagon of the game was on scum?
This seems so disingenuous looking back on it. Junko pointed out a reason to think Una is town, that's just wrong? then gets questioned on it leading to the above quote that isn't in any way meaningful and uses false logic. It's a soft town push on Una, that comes after the previous town push that was questioned.
this ^ is all working off an Una/Junko team. Outside of that I think it looks worse for Junko. VOTE: Junkochan
I mean, I agree with you that Junko is pretty plainly wrong about everything she was saying there, but I think it's more town indicative than scum indicative honestly? People do not like admitting that they are wrong and generally like to stick to their beliefs in my experience. If anything it points to her being invested in her logic being right, as opposed to scum who wouldn't really care and would be fine admitting their 'deductions' were wrong since they never actually believed any of it mattered.
This kinda leans town for me on Moon, actually
This sounds like somebody making good faith efforts to sort somebody
Aisa, I would like some reads please. I just reread your iso and much of it reads like you just asking questions and not actually pursuing anything and now your take on Moon, Dann looks like more hedging and why are you only focusing on a single post of mine, which neither yours or Una’s take which you describe as “nitpicky” isn’t even accurate.
I think this could possibly be scum!Aisa here since town!Aisa seems to try hard to solve, has better defined opinions on things and this me v Una thing just reads to me like out of left field.
Aisa town. Her posting is completely different in this game.
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In post 328, Pavowski wrote:I didn't vote Moon just because of the Ydrasse thing (as I said to IV shortly ago, I have expended all the fooks on that one that I'm gonna)
In post 345, Dannflor wrote:Also to say that I’m scum reading Moon for fluff posting isn’t really accurate
I think there’s a difference between town fluff posting and scum fluff posting and then there’s not alignment indicative fluff posting
The timing and tone of Moon’s has me leaning towards scum fluff posting
I don’t expect that particular point to be very convincing to anyone not named me but it is a feeling I currently have in my bones
Ok but the reasoning you gave is that shitposting is not The Most Important Thing I Could Have Done At That Time.
I find it thoroughly unconvincing that you as town would think that people meme because it is the most important thing they could be doing in the context of a mafia game.
In post 326, Aisa wrote:I agree I don't really get the Moonview wagon. Dann's push is, uh, strange. Not saying Moonview is town yet either however.
This is kind of similar of what other people have asked so it's fine if you fold this into a post you were already going to make on this subject, but getting an answer on this matters to me - what exactly is your read on me and Dannflor right now?
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