Micro 1066: Treestump Express [game over]

[JunkoChan]

How many votes does Moonview have UNVOTE:

Actually this looks fake because i already voted moonview before and that wasnt your reaction

[JunkoChan]

Did you lie to me Una?

[Pavowski]

My kingdom for a VC

[Una]

Did you lie to me Una?

I'm not reacting to the count as much as you saying stuff about "ending it"

[Una]

And I think this game has a lolhammer incentive someone mentioned

[Una]

I read the setup again

If the stumped mafia leverages the reduced activity requirements instead of posting memes I will be sad

[Datisi]

vote count 1.05

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-11-25 19:45:00).

firing

Moonview [3]:

Dannflor, Pavowski, JunkoChan

JunkoChan [2]:

Elements, Moonview

Una [1]:

innocentvillager

Aisa [1]:

Nona1510

not voting [2]:

Aisa, Una

mod notes

~ i'm using the vote counter because i'm lazy, yell at me if there's any errors
~ this is a mod note.

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[JunkoChan]

And I think this game has a lolhammer incentive someone mentioned

I'm aware of that, whoever said that must be a genius

[Una]

Yeah probably

[Aisa]

Aisa could you like clarify why you think the moon wagon is a mistake here?

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking about, so I will cover some "easier" points first:
1. E-1ing anyone right now is a mistake.
2. Una's hop onto the wagon is bad. I don't think people should get away with hopping onto a wagon without like, 1-2 sentences of original justification. P-edit: in the time it took me to write this Una has given some justification.

With that, let's go onto Dann's case on Moonview:

Spoiler:

Moonview, your posts do not seem like real thoughts to me. I feel like you’re forcing almost every single post you make. There’s like this anxious energy of needing to fit in and vibe with the thread

I mean, I guess I just don't get this vibe.

Spoiler:

that I’ve never seen from town!you, you are always at least a bit more casual and twirly as town. It reminds me a lot of that one scum game from Team Mafia actually, where it felt like you were always playing more to pocket than anything else

I realize some of this is you using Capital Letters but I don’t think that explains you forcing things this much

This seems irrelevant if Moon is not Ydrasse.

Spoiler:

I think Junko's treatment of Dannflor looks genuine and she's probably town. Not really impressed with what I've seen from Dann so far though.

Like, for example, I don’t understand why the second half of this post exists

I had not done anything at this point in the game nor *tried* to do anything. Half of my posts were naked votes. Like, it would be revelatory if you were impressed. I don’t know why you felt a need to say this, it feels like it was out there because you felt like you needed to pad at your post or produce more sorty thoughts, not because you thought this was an important opinion to share with the world

[...]

As Moonview herself explained, "not really impressed with what I've seen from Dann so far though" is necessary because Junko had called Dann Town.

Dann's initial response is also really wishy washy and makes litle sense, though he saves it by following it up with "Blah I am somewhat less confident you are scum".

Spoiler:

154 also strikes me as a scum fluff post

The timing of it is really weird for town to come into the thread at that point and think that’s the most important thread to respond to

It’s also like, elements and Aida were having a goofy back and forth, and you kinda insert yourself into that dynamic. It feels like you saw two townies vibing and didn’t want to be left out of the ~vibes~

And I think spending energy there at that particular timing tends to be a lot more likely coming from scum wanting to fit into the thread

I think this is the least bad point, because as scum I do hate townies vibing with each other and would do something like this. Yet, Moon had started vibing with Elements about conspiracy theories before post 154? It all reads like a fairly natural conversation with Elements to me.

Spoiler:

Blah I am somewhat less confident you are scum

Can you explain what made your elements read go from fine to top town

I guess this is fine, Moonview's reply is nothing revolutionary but also not super scummy.

Spoiler:

I'd say I have a fair amount of experience with mafia!

VOTE: innocentvillager

I have consulted my fortunes and IV is scum this game. It's in the stars. I'm a gemini, by the way.

Pedit: Putting guns to people's heads is fun! I guess in this game it would have to be, like, a special gun which turns people into trees. I don't know if science has progressed to that point yet.

Also, I'm a ydrasse alt.

I just get nervous posting vibes from this

I don’t know if knowing the ydrasse alt line was a joke or not makes it any less so or not

I still don't get nervous posting vibes from this.

Spoiler:

The timing of it is really weird for town to come into the thread at that point and think that’s the most important thread to respond to

I think this is a really weird way for town who is genuinely sorting my posts to phrase this. Like, it's super purposefully uncharitable and I do not think this is a genuine thought process at all.

I don’t think you really believe this

This is an unsubstantiated opinion, which if Dann is Town is fair enough, but also never the kind of post that is going to inspire me into liking the Moon wagon.

[Aisa]

I think the arguments others have made for voting Moon amount to some variation of 1. sheeping Dann, 2. Moonview's reaction being defensive, and 3. seeing what will happen, all of which are just deeply meh to me.

I think we've had the movement we needed and think any of Junko / iv / Dann / Una are a better choice at the moment than Moon.

How many votes does Moonview have UNVOTE:

Actually this looks fake because i already voted moonview before and that wasnt your reaction

Help, can't tell if this is sarcasm or if I need to say words

[Una]

I think she was earnest I noticed some irony too

[Una]

Moonview's reactions are worse than the case really

[Una]

Are you scum Aisa

[Moonview]

Moonview's reactions are worse than the case really

so true

[Una]

I read the post before the poster there and got got

[Elements]

there have been a number of pages since i was last here
I've been busy today and I'm quite busy until the evening tomorrow. Hopefully I'll be able to catch up tomorrow evening, if not then i should be able to the morning after

[Elements]

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[Aisa]

Weird how 3 votes in this setup is basically a Really Serious wagon.
VOTE: Dannflor
underrated vote

Are you scum Aisa

That's for me to know and for Town to figure out!

[Pavowski]

Well, dammit. I was not expecting that level of depth and response. If Bunny is scum I don't know what the hell to make of 434. I might have to put Aisa in the town bin. Not ready to vote Dann with you, though.

I have only in the last hour or so started thinking about the setup and it's breaking my brain regarding how the scum team should be acting here

[JunkoChan]

I think there is a 22% chance that moonview flips scum here

[Dannflor]

Aisa you wrote 500 words about the quality of my case but none about my alignment

Why do you scum read me

[Pavowski]

I think there is a 22% chance that moonview flips scum here

It's posts like this that make me think Junko is less scummy, more trolly

File the e-1 vote here as well

[Una]

Junko townjewel

[innocentvillager]

Ah yes, also I think Pav can be town for now though I'd still like an answer to my last question.

IV, do you think you'll ever have thoughts about the game?

Probably but not certain. I haven’t played in like maybe almost a year? Maybe less idk? My old playstyle was very obvtown as town and not obvtown as scum so it was fairly easy to read me. It was an unsustainable way of playing for me and I’m getting back into it sort of so I don’t really know what’s going to happen