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[Aisa]

VOTE: Aisa
are you following me?

VOTE: Aisa
I am now

Hello to this cursed site once again

I am so cursed by this site atm that I don't know which alignment I dislike the most

[Aisa]

Hi!

VOTE: Aisa

I feel like you know something I don't. Where are the train stations in Antarctica?

I know what I had for dinner.

Who are you?

[Aisa]

Is Elements trying too hard for page 1?

[Aisa]

Well fine ok I will only play A LITTLE antitown not A MUCH antitown
UNVOTE: myself

Is Elements trying too hard for page 1?

why is this a question and not a vote

why are you not answering my question

I think a question is more useful than a vote right now, actually.

[Aisa]

Hi!

VOTE: Aisa

I feel like you know something I don't. Where are the train stations in Antarctica?

I know what I had for dinner.

Who are you?

Haha, how do you expect me to answer this question?

<3
This answer is a little self-conscious, I wonder what that means?

P-edit: I had chili

[Aisa]

I wonder what that means?

What indeed! Maybe you'd like to tell me?

I think that self-consciousness may be a slight scumtell for certain seasoned players who have more of a "once more unto the breach, my only contribution this game will be shitposting and memes" attitude as town. I think newer players are often a bit more formal.

I don't know how much experience you have, so, in short, no clue what this means for you. I just felt like putting an adjective on your play.

why are you not answering my question

I think a question is more useful than a vote right now, actually.

I didn't get that sense

she's posting a lot but I haven't gotten anxious posting vibes

just posting vibes

but by asking that question it seems like you do think that elements is trying too hard?

Gun to my head, I actually want to call it a slight towntell. I think the slightly more likely universe is that they just want to post, as you say.

I guess I decided to think out loud and share what was on my mind with everyone else, because **sharing is caring**!

[Aisa]

I'd say I have a fair amount of experience with mafia!

VOTE: innocentvillager

I have consulted my fortunes and IV is scum this game. It's in the stars. I'm a gemini, by the way.

Pedit: Putting guns to people's heads is fun! I guess in this game it would have to be, like, a special gun which turns people into trees. I don't know if science has progressed to that point yet.

Also, I'm a ydrasse alt.

I'm gonna need about 10 pages of Ydrasse diction swinging the pendulum back in the other direction before I believe that

Before you believe what?

[Aisa]

hello, no reads yet really but don’t really understand the scumreads on either Una or Elements?

Why not?

*twirls into the night*

:')

[Aisa]

I like Pavowski for town
I want to tr nona but those three posts could easily be from scum

And Pavowski's grand total of eight posts could not come from scum?

[Aisa]

I like Pavowski for town
I want to tr nona but those three posts could easily be from scum

And Pavowski's grand total of eight posts could not come from scum?

It is so weird to shade somebody for only having 8 posts at this point in the game. What are we, like, sixteen hours in?

I mean there would be more but nobody was around to meme with last night

It's ok, I'll prove to you that I'm town soon enough

Unless you know it already

Cheeky bunny

It came out prickly, but the intention was to ask Elements about the apparent inconsistency in her reads, not to shade you. I have no problem with your posting so far.

Ok Elements I guess I’ll just ask you directly. I remember you as mostly a lurker/low content slot why does it feel like you’re extra engaged this game so far

I took a hiatus for a couple of years, now I'm back with energy. Still excited for more mafia after the game that ended that Aisa was in and be got bamboozled

This is, in fact, my working theory about you so far.

Also same, except I'm back with an extra dose of cynicism and paranoia. Maybe I can be the biggest downer and joy killer in this game?

[Aisa]

hello, no reads yet really but don’t really understand the scumreads on either Una or Elements?

Who did you think was scumreading Elements at the time?

[Aisa]

Spoiler: Context

I like Pavowski for town
I want to tr nona but those three posts could easily be from scum

And Pavowski's grand total of eight posts could not come from scum?

I like Pavowski for town
I want to tr nona but those three posts could easily be from scum

And Pavowski's grand total of eight posts could not come from scum?

It is so weird to shade somebody for only having 8 posts at this point in the game. What are we, like, sixteen hours in?

I mean there would be more but nobody was around to meme with last night

It's ok, I'll prove to you that I'm town soon enough

Unless you know it already

Cheeky bunny

It came out prickly, but the intention was to ask Elements about the apparent inconsistency in her reads, not to shade you. I have no problem with your posting so far.

Ok Elements I guess I’ll just ask you directly. I remember you as mostly a lurker/low content slot why does it feel like you’re extra engaged this game so far

I took a hiatus for a couple of years, now I'm back with energy. Still excited for more mafia after the game that ended that Aisa was in and be got bamboozled

This is, in fact, my working theory about you so far.

Also same, except I'm back with an extra dose of cynicism and paranoia. Maybe I can be the biggest downer and joy killer in this game?

Doesn't seem like much has happened since I was here.

I think Una is wrong about Nona - her posts seem fine and I don't see the iioa at all. I think I would call both una and nona >rand town right now. Elements is also fine.

Skeptical of Aisa's 95 - it seems like she's totally misrepresenting what Elements said here. I'd like her to clarify her thought process behind the question.

Buckle up

I wasn't trying to imply that Pavowski's post count mattered in an important way, if that's what you were implying. The post came out worded a bit weirdly.

I noticed what seemed like a possible inconsistency: if you are going to reserve judgment on Nona, why not also reserve judgment on Pavowski, whose posts were not that much less fakeable?

I think I was aware that Elements could have had genuine reasons for those reads. Pavowski and Nona seem to have different characters and it was totally possible that Elements had seen *something* in Pavowski's posting. However, I'm not going to just sit and be like "oh hmm I guess this isn't that scummy after all, maybe there is no need to question it"? The post was there and I decided to ask a question about it.

I also have fun asking questions that are slightly misleadingly worded sometimes - see e.g. post 16 which is another post that people have interpreted as a scumread when it is not. It amuses me and makes slightly less than 100% transparent what I'm thinking when I question someone, which I think can be a good thing?

What does

skeptical

mean here? What are you skeptical of?

[Aisa]

Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?

unless they were both arlready in there

Wait, what?

> Una is at E-1
> Mafia sees it and doesn't hammer

How do these two facts imply Una is town?

[Aisa]

Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?

unless they were both arlready in there

Wait, what?

> Una is at E-1
> Mafia sees it and doesn't hammer

How do these two facts imply Una is town?

if one scum partner hammers town he just tree stumps himself

in this setup they benefit a lot from ending this phase early

Huh, I actually hadn't considered that but yes, that's something scum can do.

So

only put people at E-1 if you're ok with them dying

. I will side-eye you if you do it too early

Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?

unless they were both arlready in there

I finally see what you mean. (We're considering a hypothetical in which Una was at E-1 for longer than 10 minutes.) You mean the possibilities are
> 0-1 scum on Una's wagon - in which case, why did it not get hammered?
> 2 scum on Una's wagon - in which case, Una is town.

The issue is you're not accounting for the fact Una's wagon could have failed to get hammered

because she is scum

.

[Aisa]

I told you I'm scum with Una!!

no I just want you to explain because I haven't done anything this game

I already explained what came to mind, I think you are smart enough to come to the same conclusion, if you were scum, you wait, tell the other person to hammer, and boom we are on yeetlo

playing longcon is suboptimal as scum

Fun fact, this reasoning is also not valid if Una is scum. Which, hilariously, means Dann does in fact have more scum equity with Una than with anyone else.

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, somehow I can't tell if I'm just explicitly saying things everyone else figured out two hours ago lol.

[Aisa]

like I said, it might mean nothing, but at least we gained something from this interaction

Yeah I agree it's a really interesting interaction, thank you for pointing it out.

@Aisa true, but what are the odds that the first wagon of the game was on scum?

I have words about this if it becomes relevant again, but I won't go down this rabbit hole for now, lol.

P-edit: Pavowski thank you for your service

[Aisa]

Also will start catching up now! Ask questions if you have any!

@Junko I don't you've explained why Elements is scum?

[Aisa]

Also will start catching up now! Ask questions if you have any!

@Junko I don't you've explained why Elements is scum?

I mean, my initial vote was meant to poke, and now that I got an answer I don't like it.

I mean, they're not

wrong

about you forgetting a part of the analysis. What makes you think their reply is an omgus?

Ask questions if you have any!

Why is your avatar so cute?

Because I'm cute.

This seems like a good time to bring up that something about you reminds me of this alt I played with once. Who also probably wasn't Ydrasse. I checked and your tone isn't quite a match for the person I'm thinking of, though.

[Aisa]

I agree I don't really get the Moonview wagon. Dann's push is, uh, strange. Not saying Moonview is town yet either however.

The Una vs Nona posts are attracting my attention most. I was going to say that I don't think either slot comes away looking amazing, but then reading Una's posts made me reconsider. Anyway, here's some vague rambling:

Spoiler:

I like Pavowski for town
I want to tr nona but those three posts could easily be from scum

And Pavowski's grand total of eight posts could not come from scum?

It is so weird to shade somebody for only having 8 posts at this point in the game. What are we, like, sixteen hours in?

I mean there would be more but nobody was around to meme with last night

It's ok, I'll prove to you that I'm town soon enough

Unless you know it already

Cheeky bunny

It came out prickly, but the intention was to ask Elements about the apparent inconsistency in her reads, not to shade you. I have no problem with your posting so far.

Ok Elements I guess I’ll just ask you directly. I remember you as mostly a lurker/low content slot why does it feel like you’re extra engaged this game so far

I took a hiatus for a couple of years, now I'm back with energy. Still excited for more mafia after the game that ended that Aisa was in and be got bamboozled

This is, in fact, my working theory about you so far.

Also same, except I'm back with an extra dose of cynicism and paranoia. Maybe I can be the biggest downer and joy killer in this game?

Here is another “0 level read” of mine. I also like this post as well. I like that Aisa is asking the reasoning for Elements’ different takes on me and Pavowski and clarifying that her questioning has more to do with Elements’ takes than her read on either me or Pavowski.

Like 126 doesn't even contain anything that determines whether someone is town or scum

Both scum and town would clarify a point. Miscommunication benefits every alignment except maybe jester.
So it's like a post pointing out someone is nice and helpful to clear comms but not actually commenting on her alignment. Or only doing so by acknowledging niceness and logic jumping to townness

I think my main issue with Una is that this seems kind of... nitpicky? I agree that all Nona does in 126 is describe facts and slap the word "like" in front of them, so 126 is not difficult to fake. It still seems nitpicky though.

I think this could be SvS actually.

[Aisa]

Ugh, I'm sleepy, so I'll have to delay commenting more to tomorrow.

Note I said the interaction could be SvS not that it is, I think it's a possibility that should not be underestimated is all.

[Aisa]

Aisa, I would like some reads please. I just reread your iso and much of it reads like you just asking questions and not actually pursuing anything and now your take on Moon, Dann looks like more hedging and why are you only focusing on a single post of mine, which neither yours or Una’s take which you describe as “nitpicky” isn’t even accurate.

I think this could possibly be scum!Aisa here since town!Aisa seems to try hard to solve, has better defined opinions on things and this me v Una thing just reads to me like out of left field.

Ooh exciting, how much to push back?

I think that if you click around you'll see that there is a range to my town game:
Mini Normal (this is the game you linked)
C9++ (my second-most recently completed game)

Also the scum game you linked, for reference:
Radiology

I'm not sure exactly what you are looking at, but I'd guess maybe the C9++ game is a bit closer to my play here? You've said that people are differently invested in different games and I think some of this is going on for me.

I just lost in the Mini Normal you linked and I’m not very happy with the way I let myself get emotionally swept up there. I told myself I would hang back a bit here and be more careful about throwing reads out left and right. My two "well defined" page 1 townreads that game? Both scum. The jokes I crack? There were are lot more of them than usual, partly because I wasn't sure how else I was going to handle talking to Firebringer who made 70 posts in like 12 hours.

Reads in next post.

[Aisa]

I feel more confident that Elements is town. It’s still not a super high confidence read (maybe 85% ish where the baseline of someone being town is 75%). I’m making a judgment call that what she’s saying about having energy and wanting to solve is true - her posting pattern seems consistent with that so far.

From the meta research I did at some point I do think her town and scum games are similar, but town!her is maybe a bit more chill and vibey, scum!her is a bit more… curt and focused on pushing through the agenda she wants? This is a read that is really dangerous to voice because she now knows exactly how to pocket me if she wants to... if she didn't already.

I also think I might townlean JunkoChan, basically because of this:

Spoiler:

Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?

unless they were both arlready in there

Wait, what?

> Una is at E-1
> Mafia sees it and doesn't hammer

How do these two facts imply Una is town?

if one scum partner hammers town he just tree stumps himself

in this setup they benefit a lot from ending this phase early

Huh, I actually hadn't considered that but yes, that's something scum can do.

So

only put people at E-1 if you're ok with them dying

. I will side-eye you if you do it too early

Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?

unless they were both arlready in there

I finally see what you mean. (We're considering a hypothetical in which Una was at E-1 for longer than 10 minutes.) You mean the possibilities are
> 0-1 scum on Una's wagon - in which case, why did it not get hammered?
> 2 scum on Una's wagon - in which case, Una is town.

The issue is you're not accounting for the fact Una's wagon could have failed to get hammered

because she is scum

.

Junko probably town for doing hammer math. I don't think she fakes or gives it out for free as scum because she seems like she'd enjoy low effort hammery routes to winning imo

Having slept on it, I think I might townlean Nona as well. I happen to have done a little meta research of my own. She was scum in One Choice and I think that she seems less concerned about optics, and a bit more spontaneous and aggressive here. Caveats are that 1. I don't think she would find it too hard to come across as more aggressive if she tried to, 2. One Choice was a weird setup so that probably influences things.

I also think Nona's activity patterns and timestamps seem fairly towny?

Everyone else is still a question mark to me. Sometimes some posts give me town pings, but I haven't thought about those slots much yet and I'd rather not jump to conclusions.

For example, I really really want to townread Moonview off vibes, but I'm not sure their posts would be extremely difficult to fake.

I can't make up my mind about what Dann not hammering Una means, so I'm just going to ignore that. I don't agree with Dann's push on Moon (I think the push is weird, not you, Dann! You seem nice :3). I don't know Dann very well, but it sounds like multiple people here think they are a competent scum player who could fake what they have done so far, in which case townreading them seems like a mistake?

[Aisa]

HELLO, TWIRLER

WHY IS EVERYONE SO OBSESSED WITH MY READ ON THEM THIS GAME ALL THESE QUESTIONS

You also have towny vibes actually

Also y'alls can sign me up for some sus on the bunny, I don't vibe with the little hop into the thread here this evening

But I said I'd wait three days to vote there and I am a dude of my word

I wanted to ask why it is a matter of voting me when you could just, like, talk to me
Which to be fair you just did, so yeah

[Aisa]

Why is hedging bad, though?

[Aisa]

Dann is in my “think about this slot later” bin, but yes, I dislike his push on you, particularly the part when he thinks you are Ydrasse because I thought it was fairly plain that you were not Ydrasse.
Funnily the part of his push I like most is the point about the timing of your fluff posting.

[Aisa]

Hedging generally equals not taking a position

Not taking a position feels to other players like waiting to see which way the wind blows

Which is not in and of itself scummy but it certainly carries the look and connotation of not being not scummy

Yeah I guess this is fair, but it also annoys me because being hedgy is a way of life for me
I don’t think I’m scared of reversing strong reads, so I don’t get this site’s general fondness for scumreading hedginess
But also yes I will try to have more reads I’m willing to stand behind soon

[Aisa]

What do you mean it annoys you too? You have chosen to let your tingly sense be activated by my hedging, you and I are not the same, sir

[Aisa]

Moon, who do you suspect and why?

Could people who are voting Moonview actually do something instead of standing around and citing that one Dannflor post

[Aisa]

Ah yes, also I think Pav can be town for now though I'd still like an answer to my last question.

IV, do you think you'll ever have thoughts about the game?

[Aisa]

should I put moonview at E-1?

Do you have original thoughts on why Moonview is scum?

[Aisa]

What makes you confident Moonview is scum over, say, IV?

Good things come to those who wait.

[Aisa]

Lol, fair enough. Why am I sus to you?

[Aisa]

Ok, I need to think about it. The caps were possibly in poor taste and for that I apologise.

[Aisa]

Ah yes, also I think Pav can be town for now though I'd still like an answer to my last question.

IV, do you think you'll ever have thoughts about the game?

Were you talking about the question of why I don't like your hedging?

I mean I can simultaneously hold that we prejudice against hedging overmuch while also realizing the kernel of truth that hedging is not particularly pro-town.

I don't know if that answers your question. I'm a little thrown off by Moon saying I've done nothing that wasn't awful. I think at the least I've made a couple decent jokes

Yeah this answers my question and I think it's a good reaction.

On the other hand, I want to take back my JunkoChan townlean. The ISO was never that good in the first place, I don't feel safe townreading them purely off that observation about the Dann unvote and the Moonview E-1 affair is a bit yeesh.

[Aisa]

Una is probably not scum, because 1 mafia could have hammered?

unless they were both arlready in there

Wait, what?

> Una is at E-1
> Mafia sees it and doesn't hammer

How do these two facts imply Una is town?

if one scum partner hammers town he just tree stumps himself

in this setup they benefit a lot from ending this phase early

I was going to comment on Moonview, but also, eep, rich development coming from someone who said this earlier

[Aisa]

Aisa could you like clarify why you think the moon wagon is a mistake here?

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking about, so I will cover some "easier" points first:
1. E-1ing anyone right now is a mistake.
2. Una's hop onto the wagon is bad. I don't think people should get away with hopping onto a wagon without like, 1-2 sentences of original justification. P-edit: in the time it took me to write this Una has given some justification.

With that, let's go onto Dann's case on Moonview:

Spoiler:

Moonview, your posts do not seem like real thoughts to me. I feel like you’re forcing almost every single post you make. There’s like this anxious energy of needing to fit in and vibe with the thread

I mean, I guess I just don't get this vibe.

Spoiler:

that I’ve never seen from town!you, you are always at least a bit more casual and twirly as town. It reminds me a lot of that one scum game from Team Mafia actually, where it felt like you were always playing more to pocket than anything else

I realize some of this is you using Capital Letters but I don’t think that explains you forcing things this much

This seems irrelevant if Moon is not Ydrasse.

Spoiler:

I think Junko's treatment of Dannflor looks genuine and she's probably town. Not really impressed with what I've seen from Dann so far though.

Like, for example, I don’t understand why the second half of this post exists

I had not done anything at this point in the game nor *tried* to do anything. Half of my posts were naked votes. Like, it would be revelatory if you were impressed. I don’t know why you felt a need to say this, it feels like it was out there because you felt like you needed to pad at your post or produce more sorty thoughts, not because you thought this was an important opinion to share with the world

[...]

As Moonview herself explained, "not really impressed with what I've seen from Dann so far though" is necessary because Junko had called Dann Town.

Dann's initial response is also really wishy washy and makes litle sense, though he saves it by following it up with "Blah I am somewhat less confident you are scum".

Spoiler:

154 also strikes me as a scum fluff post

The timing of it is really weird for town to come into the thread at that point and think that’s the most important thread to respond to

It’s also like, elements and Aida were having a goofy back and forth, and you kinda insert yourself into that dynamic. It feels like you saw two townies vibing and didn’t want to be left out of the ~vibes~

And I think spending energy there at that particular timing tends to be a lot more likely coming from scum wanting to fit into the thread

I think this is the least bad point, because as scum I do hate townies vibing with each other and would do something like this. Yet, Moon had started vibing with Elements about conspiracy theories before post 154? It all reads like a fairly natural conversation with Elements to me.

Spoiler:

Blah I am somewhat less confident you are scum

Can you explain what made your elements read go from fine to top town

I guess this is fine, Moonview's reply is nothing revolutionary but also not super scummy.

Spoiler:

I'd say I have a fair amount of experience with mafia!

VOTE: innocentvillager

I have consulted my fortunes and IV is scum this game. It's in the stars. I'm a gemini, by the way.

Pedit: Putting guns to people's heads is fun! I guess in this game it would have to be, like, a special gun which turns people into trees. I don't know if science has progressed to that point yet.

Also, I'm a ydrasse alt.

I just get nervous posting vibes from this

I don’t know if knowing the ydrasse alt line was a joke or not makes it any less so or not

I still don't get nervous posting vibes from this.

Spoiler:

The timing of it is really weird for town to come into the thread at that point and think that’s the most important thread to respond to

I think this is a really weird way for town who is genuinely sorting my posts to phrase this. Like, it's super purposefully uncharitable and I do not think this is a genuine thought process at all.

I don’t think you really believe this

This is an unsubstantiated opinion, which if Dann is Town is fair enough, but also never the kind of post that is going to inspire me into liking the Moon wagon.

[Aisa]

I think the arguments others have made for voting Moon amount to some variation of 1. sheeping Dann, 2. Moonview's reaction being defensive, and 3. seeing what will happen, all of which are just deeply meh to me.

I think we've had the movement we needed and think any of Junko / iv / Dann / Una are a better choice at the moment than Moon.

How many votes does Moonview have UNVOTE:

Actually this looks fake because i already voted moonview before and that wasnt your reaction

Help, can't tell if this is sarcasm or if I need to say words

[Aisa]

Weird how 3 votes in this setup is basically a Really Serious wagon.
VOTE: Dannflor
underrated vote

Are you scum Aisa

That's for me to know and for Town to figure out!

[Aisa]

Helloooo I see I am the star of the show. But why?

i think generally salty scum aren't as funny as salty town

401 is pretty funny

And 438 responding to Aisa's post with "are you scum" rather than anything substantial is just like, "yugg" in her words.

i don't know that this is scum indicative
i think scum even Isis scum have a compulsion to show that they have thoughts and that they are Real thoughts
"are you scum" only hints towards a thought process but is mostly posted to gauge a reaction probably

VOTE: Aisa

How is this even really a reason to vote or how does your ISO otherwise contain a reason to vote me?

Also I will reread the thread more carefully now hang on.

[Aisa]

I mean, people have different approaches to the game and that is ok, and if you would like to meme your way to a hammer that is ok although-I-would-prefer-it-if-you-didn't. However, if people are trying to win this game, then wagoning random people to E-1 without justification is Not It. I will gladly address any points that have been made such as Dann's points which I am aware of and I will go retrieve and address those now.

[Aisa]

i think generally salty scum aren't as funny as salty town

401 is pretty funny

And 438 responding to Aisa's post with "are you scum" rather than anything substantial is just like, "yugg" in her words.

i don't know that this is scum indicative
i think scum even Isis scum have a compulsion to show that they have thoughts and that they are Real thoughts
"are you scum" only hints towards a thought process but is mostly posted to gauge a reaction probably

VOTE: Aisa

That was not the joke that Dann called me scum for - he did not even recognise that as a joke - and I am increasingly convinced you did not read the posts you claimed to be sheeping.

Those quotes were accidents I'm on mobile

Ah, sorry, I have proven again that I have no attention span. This explains the quotes. However, this is still not an explanation.

[Aisa]

Uhh I cannot quote and spoiler my own post because spoilers do not nest. Deep breath.

Spoiler: Alll the context

Aisa could you like clarify why you think the moon wagon is a mistake here?

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking about, so I will cover some "easier" points first:
1. E-1ing anyone right now is a mistake.
2. Una's hop onto the wagon is bad. I don't think people should get away with hopping onto a wagon without like, 1-2 sentences of original justification. P-edit: in the time it took me to write this Una has given some justification.

With that, let's go onto Dann's case on Moonview:

[click the linky thing to read the rest of my case, spoilers do not nest]

I think the arguments others have made for voting Moon amount to some variation of 1. sheeping Dann, 2. Moonview's reaction being defensive, and 3. seeing what will happen, all of which are just deeply meh to me.

I think we've had the movement we needed and think any of Junko / iv / Dann / Una are a better choice at the moment than Moon.

How many votes does Moonview have UNVOTE:

Actually this looks fake because i already voted moonview before and that wasnt your reaction

Help, can't tell if this is sarcasm or if I need to say words

Weird how 3 votes in this setup is basically a Really Serious wagon.
VOTE: Dannflor
underrated vote

[...]

Aisa you wrote 500 words about the quality of my case but none about my alignment

Why do you scum read me

I wrote the words because Pavowski asked for an explanation and the nutshell version I attempted earlier did not seem to suffice.

I voted you because I was like "let's put my vote on someone before I go to sleep for today", I was too much of a coward to put it on JunkoChan and I felt inspired to vote you.

Anyway, the push on Moonview is sus. The wording "

underrated

wagon" implies that it is a Relative Judgment about the scumminess of your slot vs the popularity of you as a wagon.

I don't really want to pick 434 apart because I feel like I'd be activating a trap card, but this is almost exactly what I'd call information instead of analysis. Aisa doesn't comment at all on whether any parts of my push are more likely to come from scum or town, the analysis is focused on whether or not it "makes sense." It's focused on the pedantic quality of my case and that feels like the thing that is a lot easier for scum to focus on to generate content whereas town is going to be thinking about how that applies to my alignment?

Yes because I am

writing in reply to someone about why the push on Moonview is bad

!

also calling 275 wishy washy is just Saying Words at this point

Upon rereading there is some more subtlety around 275 than I missed the first time, so I will concede this point.

the "case" culminates in a vote on me in 443

idk the whole progression just looks like it's designed to pocket Moonview

keep in mind she doesn't actually state she thinks Moon is towny anywhere here

just that she's not "super scummy"

It is not a case, because see above.

Luckily for you I am now officially Townreading Moonview and you have my explicit permission to question me and hold me to account for this read. I realise that the timing of this seems a bit convenient, but it is what it is, somehow the posts just Vibe Logical in a way that now suggests Townie to me.

[Aisa]

Soft, squishy, evil axolotl.

[Aisa]

Sigh Una!Town was the read I had most confidence in

Soft, squishy, evil axolotl.

Mwahahaha

sorry

I squinted and saw this... wonky hyphen. Jeez, if that is size 10 font I cannot imagine size 1

Goddammit goddammit goddammit. I was about to post HEY SOMEBODY SHOULD UNVOTE

At least I'm fookin dead now, whee

I was about to explain that I was going to go to a class but would be back later
I pressed submit and the forum threw up an error
The axolotl had gone stabbity stab

[Aisa]

I was on elements ass this entire Game una vote Dann

if i was scum i imagine i would be very focused on distancing this setup

+1

No egging on of hammers allowed

[Aisa]

Una are you going to vote today or at a different time?

P-edit the other side of the moon

[Aisa]

I was on elements ass this entire Game una vote Dann

if i was scum i imagine i would be very focused on distancing this setup

+1

No egging on of hammers allowed

What is the point of being a treestump if I can't egg things on???

I joined this game hoping to get stumped, lookit my first post

Let me rephrase: especially no egging on of hammers on the player I believe to be the wrong player

[Aisa]

It's fine~

Tbf I'm also not going to endorse a hammer on you right now. Aisa has not reread the game. Aisa who thinks Dann is scum is biased. Aisa will go hang out with her housemates and come back and play seriously later assuming this game is still running.

[Aisa]

OMG Ausuka!! I had no idea it was you. I suppose the lole should've given it away but *shrug* we haven't played together THAT much.

[Aisa]

As in, no idea Moonview was you. I did think you had a really messed up sleep pattern for somebody who lived in Hartford, Connecticut though

[Aisa]

Ah, ok. In which case I correct it to "lole sounds like something you would say". I don't really care if Dann recognised you tbf. You also came across as pretty chill imo.

Dann, that case you posted against Junko earlier was pretty good! I was second-guessing myself big time. (Aisa's housemates abandoned her like 10 minutes after Aisa left the game to hang out with them, so Aisa was secretly lurking the whole time.)

[Aisa]

Respectfully, I think it needs to be said that Townies do stupid shit all the time, but that is the nature of the game and something you sign yourself up for when you decide to play. If you don't feel like playing a game you can always replace out.

But also yes I'm writing this one off as a meme

P-edit: I also suffer massively from Taking It Too Seriously syndrome so your words are appreciated <3

[Aisa]

Yeah i should probably learn to like express my emotions in a more healthy way

smh this is like a therapy session

Wait 678 is not addressed to you in case you thought it was

[Aisa]

Thanks for modding Dats, your flavor and setups are always a hoot!

And thanks for playing all!

+1!

[Aisa]

All good!

Mafia PT :3