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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think scol continues to be fine. His first string of posts were hearkened by the thought of 'these are face value assumptions', but I liked it of it's..imperfection. They're imperfect because they just state a problem he sees but there isn't like this additive layer to it. It's a lot of 'this behavior is x or y' which would be more troublesome if they weren't followed by reads or votes. I'm a fan

this is like level 0 scumplay

[unwnd]

Yeah I saw that too but I felt like being devil's advocate that maybe it was just level 0 townplay

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just rereading the iso again it looks like he's more interested in pushing and consolidating his position in thread than actually sorting anyone.

posts are heavy on declarative statements and light on interaction/sorting.

[unwnd]

That's a bit harsh because he does have a structure to his posts that is lacking in some other individuals. I think that's what read it more favorably compared to other posters

Like I don't get why you like Herta of all people

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Herta's very stilted as scum - here the flow feels natural

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That's a bit harsh because he does have a structure to his posts that is lacking in some other individuals. I think that's what read it more favorably compared to other posters

Like I don't get why you like Herta of all people

yea he has structure but look at interactions -

he has

0 real time sorting/engagement to sort

lots of declarative statements dressed up to look fancier than they actually are

low desire to really be in the thread and talk out reads with the people he is "townreading"

[unwnd]

I oddly feel like trusting you and I hate that feeling

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean we can just dunk on dannflor first if you feel strongly about scol

i think they have p high partner equity with each other

[unwnd]

No no I'm fine with playing this out actually and like your perspective (of all fucking things)

VOTE: Scolosis

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hyyyyyype

VOTE: scol

[Datisi]

vote count 1.06

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-12-06 00:45:52).

yeet

Scoliosis [3]:

KittyTacky, unwnd, PookyTheMagicalBear

Herta [2]:

skitter30, geraintm

geraintm [2]:

innocentvillager, Herta

skitter30 [2]:

Val89, Scoliosis

PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:

Ydrasse, Dannflor

Ydrasse [1]:

Toto

not voting [1]:

Freedom

mod notes

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[skitter30]

hi skitts <3 no paranoia pls i towb this time

>.>

ok what do u disagree with

Uh most of your takes, and especially both of your scumreads

[skitter30]

Also UNVOTE:

[skitter30]

0 real time sorting/engagement to sort

lots of declarative statements dressed up to look fancier than they actually are

low desire to really be in the thread and talk out reads with the people he is "townreading"

Not being here in realtime is not a scumtell ...

[skitter30]

Unless you have reason to believe he is purposefully stunting his realtime inthread interactions, that's an availability-indicative thing, not an ai-indicative thing

[Ydrasse]

@mod i was voting testa/pooky smh

UNVOTE:

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

0 real time sorting/engagement to sort

lots of declarative statements dressed up to look fancier than they actually are

low desire to really be in the thread and talk out reads with the people he is "townreading"

Not being here in realtime is not a scumtell ...

this game started a week ago do you see him trying to have a conversation with anyone at any point about anything

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what other reads of mine do you disagree with and why

[Scoliosis]

VOTE: Pookythebear

Testarossa had a bad iso before replacing out and pooky's is even worse. I especially dislike how Pooky waited to vote me until after he saw unwnd do it. Pooky's push makes me think KT and unwnd are town, hence why Pookythebear wanted to be the third vote on my wagon, so KT and unwnd would look worse than him if he can get me to flip.

Also UNVOTE:

Unless you have reason to believe he is purposefully stunting his realtime inthread interactions, that's an availability-indicative thing, not an ai-indicative thing

The fact that you aren't voting pooky and are leaving your vote at nl makes me suspicious you are preparing for a read flip if you see my wagon becomes popular. I'm expecting scum skitter to continue to hedge their reads for a while so they have the option of pretending to flip their read on me if it becomes clear that scum need my wagon to go through today.

I oddly feel like trusting you and I hate that feeling

No no I'm fine with playing this out actually and like your perspective (of all fucking things)

VOTE: Scolosis

I feel like there is one of *these* players in every town. I don't think there is a single post created by Pookythebear which didn't ping me as scum in some way. I think the inclination to trust these posts is so foreign to me that I don't think I can relate to unwnd at all and I don't trust where their head is at, though unfortunately, I think there is one scum and two town on my wagon, which means unfortunately unwnd is town.

Biggest change for me over the last few pages is that I townread val and innocent villager now. Val asked me some questions I'm going to answer later today, knock on wood.

Explain that change.

No sorry, I've decided you're a clueless town and Pookythebear is taking advantage of your vote, and I prefer not to waste my time answering your questions since it seems clear your mind is already made up.

I feel like I am too dumb to understand the fake dumb tell. It's my impression that Scoliosis just put Toto's post in as contrast to my entrance to underline his point and not trying to give a read on them. I would maybe call it a poor example, but not a fake.

However I like that Val goes one step further and questions how such a try-hard entry dismisses other slots.

Skimming the game before I sleep, nothing stands out as exceptional enough to comment on yet. The townleans are fine for now.

This statement strikes me a bit as odd. There is nothing exceptional to comment on yet you are fine with waving through the townleans made so far? For 1,5 pages that's kind of exceptional imo. Feels like a statement for a statement's sake.

VOTE: Church

Given Pookythebear's play, I looked back and decided that these posts imply that both val and church (ydra) are town.

My Scoliosis townread is kinda eroding ngl. The last 2 posts just seem to be looking to be made to start an early push (it's 2 pages in) on pretty flimsy reasoning.

What exactly changed here for you though or rather why strikes it to you as less townie than before? I think so far it looks to be in character with Scoliosis, going by what we have seen from him so far. (ftr I think it's null)

I guess this is scum white knighting me against KT who is town.

This reads to me like a friend of skitter and innocent villager is recognizing that something is off in skitter and is too nice to say it outright.

That's not completely wrong, but I personally play a lot of wait-and-see with players that I'd prefer to be town? Skitter can be a huge boon if she's the same alignment, so I don't want to immediately start getting paranoid and devalue her thoughts. I do stand by that interaction regardless if one of them flips scum. What do you think of Val?

Since I made it clear already that I believe unwnd is town who doesn't have their head screwed on all the way, I want to clarify to everyone that the above post is a horrible way to play the game, voting out players based on popularity and friendships is how you end up in the position here where you think Pookythebear is creating some compelling stuff.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Testarossa had a bad iso before replacing out and pooky's is even worse.

explain

[unwnd]

Since I made it clear already that I believe unwnd is town who doesn't have their head screwed on all the way, I want to clarify to everyone that the above post is a horrible way to play the game, voting out players based on popularity and friendships is how you end up in the position here where you think Pookythebear is creating some compelling stuff.

I'm gonna assume you meant not voting out here? I think that you are separating yourself from context which is why I started to change my mind on you. You respond to me in absolutes instead of considering my experience with Skitter (which I have pointed out) and treat this very interaction like a lesson instead of a conversation. Do you agree that behavior can dictate how someone approaches the game as town? I think this is crucial to understanding alignment because a post similarly worded does not mean the same based on an individual.

I know nothing about you. I don't know what your intentions are beyond the times you pop in with some sort of directive. I think it would be helpful to me if you conversed more in real-time.

[Scoliosis]

I know nothing about you. I don't know what your intentions are beyond the times you pop in with some sort of directive. I think it would be helpful to me if you conversed more in real-time.

I think you're gullible and naive and will probably be a liability moving forward, but if it makes you feel any better, I think you're sincere and mean well. I'm working on an updated reads list right now. What do you want to talk about?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you going to explain

[unwnd]

I know nothing about you. I don't know what your intentions are beyond the times you pop in with some sort of directive. I think it would be helpful to me if you conversed more in real-time.

I think you're gullible and naive and will probably be a liability moving forward, but if it makes you feel any better, I think you're sincere and mean well. I'm working on an updated reads list right now. What do you want to talk about?

From your disposition, why does me being 'gulliable and naive' make me town? I could easily be faking that. This black and white thinking would be far more of a hindrance than any stupid shit I could possibly do

[skitter30]

0 real time sorting/engagement to sort

lots of declarative statements dressed up to look fancier than they actually are

low desire to really be in the thread and talk out reads with the people he is "townreading"

Not being here in realtime is not a scumtell ...

this game started a week ago do you see him trying to have a conversation with anyone at any point about anything

That's not the sort of player he is, above post case in point