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[Dannflor]

angels are usually good right?

but maybe it depends on who her scum buddies could be

[Val89]

I think I would be fine ending the day somewhere on Herta/Geran/Scol

[Would end day here]
Geran
Herta

@unwnd: What's the distinction you are making with Sco that puts him in a different category with skitter?

[Dannflor]

I don't know why skitter is scummy

Scoliosis I can see why people would scum read but on first impression their behavior seems NAI for them and I haven't done a thorough enough read to actually develop a good opinion

[innocentvillager]

tbf you've already snowed me as scum once

lucky for you i dont abide by the "if x player is good at scum they should never be town read" tenet of mafia

I do

[unwnd]

I think I would be fine ending the day somewhere on Herta/Geran/Scol

[Would end day here]
Geran
Herta

@unwnd: What's the distinction you are making with Sco that puts him in a different category with skitter?

Scol is just the way he is. Everything I disliked about our exchanges sums up to him being an asshat, and asshats can still be town. Do I think he's town

for

being an asshat? Absolutely not. I don't want to excuse his behavior because I'd be really bitter if he were scum and started to think he fooled me by some theatrics. I'm not gonna let him think he's easily won my favor by being unapologetically himself.

[innocentvillager]

Is ger really just a null slot? he’s totally capable of doing shit as town and here he’s don’t really contributing much/driving his own opinions, just kind of lurking existing

that random wall post kind of just felt like out of the blue randomly prompted to provide content for the same of it, probably from his teammates or self consciousness or smthng

[innocentvillager]

There was no grammar in that sentence you’ll have to excuse my runon phone posting

[innocentvillager]

Dann can you give me a rough but also non sarcastic breakdown of how you’re approaching this game and the one we just played differently

[Val89]

Scol is just the way he is. Everything I disliked about our exchanges sums up to him being an asshat, and asshats can still be town. Do I think he's town for being an asshat? Absolutely not. I don't want to excuse his behavior because I'd be really bitter if he were scum and started to think he fooled me by some theatrics. I'm not gonna let him think he's easily won my favor by being unapologetically himself.

Understood. So, you aren't actually fine with ending the day on Scol, despite 655, then?

[unwnd]

Like I said, if he gets himself killed you won't see me crying. I'd rather vote Herta/Geran with preference on Herta.

[Dannflor]

well im town in this one

oh you said non-sarcastic

uh in that game I was playing to spefically obv town by making several strong and detailed pushes and then backing off and looking like i had Very Real thoughts and was an Active Scumhunter

here I just want to get a scum flip and I don't think i have to do that here to accomplish that. I'm not being very careful with my reads because it's D1 and I don't have to be very careful to kill a scum

[Dannflor]

Is ger really just a null slot? he’s totally capable of doing shit as town and here he’s don’t really contributing much/driving his own opinions, just kind of lurking existing

that random wall post kind of just felt like out of the blue randomly prompted to provide content for the same of it, probably from his teammates or self consciousness or smthng

yeah that's a fair scum read

I'd kill it

[Toto]

Welp, despite Scol being scum, there seems to be some resistance, the thread seems to be moving towards killing the two lurkers which apparently are obvious meta ML targets. They could be scumfucks too. So I'm fine murdering them. If we are going to ML them lets do it on D1.

[innocentvillager]

Who’s the other lurker?

And why are you so sure Scol is scum? Feel free to quote past stuff

[innocentvillager]

Is ger really just a null slot? he’s totally capable of doing shit as town and here he’s don’t really contributing much/driving his own opinions, just kind of lurking existing

that random wall post kind of just felt like out of the blue randomly prompted to provide content for the same of it, probably from his teammates or self consciousness or smthng

yeah that's a fair scum read

I'd kill it

This doesn’t feel like something scum!Dann would say after saying what he just said before

[Val89]

In post 651, Herta wrote:
He does, however, know how to use that as a scum tool -- I have seen him explicitly state it in scum PTs.

That's the sort of thing I was looking for, and if you have a specific game in mind I would be grateful.

Nevermind, I found it. Would still like clarification as to what you think I am right about though? You think gera is LHF and regret the vote there?

[Datisi]

vote count 1.08

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-12-06 00:45:52).

yeet

Scoliosis [3]:

KittyTacky,

Toto

, Herta

Herta [3]:

geraintm, Dannflor, skitter30

geraintm [2]:

innocentvillager, Scoliosis

skitter30 [1]:

Val89

not voting [4]:

Freedom, Ydrasse, unwnd, PookyTheMagicalBear

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[Toto]

It would help if people not voting start voting someone, we need more drama to sort this out.

[Toto]

Where did the bear go?

[Toto]

BTW is anyone town reading freedom?

[Toto]

And why are you so sure Scol is scum? Feel free to quote past stuff

Already did. His self wagon analysis is scummy as fuck given his supposedly paranoia and his "im about to die the scumfucks got me" attitude. I can't bring myself to reconcile the bad cold logic with his portrayed emotional behavior.

[Freedom]

@Freedom; What is your read on skitter?

Nulltown.
She has made quite some in-depth posts but a lot of what she's done feels NAI.

[Freedom]

It would help if people not voting start voting someone, we need more drama to sort this out.

OK.
VOTE: gera

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I prefer flipping either Scoli or Gera to flipping Herta.

@Dann do you have any reasons to townread Scoli other than that you don't like how Herta voted there?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't see Herta's vote on Scoli as scummy because I would kind of expect Town!Herta to just sheep me atp in the game because I don't see anything more compelling to do for him - you're saying its oppurtunistic/scum motivated but I don't see why Herta!Town would be compelled by my reasoning and decide to sheep me.

are my points against scoli unreasonable for him to believe in?