House of the Dragon - Game Over!

[UNOwen]

Johnny
Roden
Shea
Firebringer

[Firebringer]

i do not agree at all johnny is scum.

[VP Baltar]

i do not agree at all johnny is scum.

who is scum there bud

[Firebringer]

i do not agree at all johnny is scum.

who is scum there bud

already told u the whole council is town.

[Andresvmb]

Ace strategy I kept in my pocket last night. So scum couldn't plot.

I think we lim Johnny today, who is LOL OBV SCUM. I assume Shea must install an heir immediately? If so, we have him put our second most likely suspect into that slot and then the Kingsguard overthrows tonight so we disperse power again on the council and kill a potential scum slot.

Scum's plan is very clearly to condense and eliminate PRs, based on the two NKs so far.

You do know that TSQ has to sacrifice for this to happen right?

[Datisi]

anyway. mastina. now, i really wanna work with you this game. you have me as town last i checked - i am not bad at reading gl and vpb. DOUBLY so now that dwlee has flipped. i am willing to try to talk to you about it. i know this might be falling on deaf ears, but *please* reconsider.

i am currently undecided on dannflor. why do you think he's a likely bus vote? without saying "i already scumread him" because i am not particularly moved by that early scumread.

VOTE: roden

i love the johnny wagon. i will not pretend that i don't. but uh, something something competing wagons good for gamestate and all that. def still scumread johnny tho.

@fire, who are you considering to be scum again?

[Firebringer]

Do i need to repeat why Rhae was town? Rhae literally advocated for King Mastina who we know is town.
Ur saying that RHAE who thinks so highly of mastina, as scum wants to put MASTINA in charge of this town. We know mastina is town now, you guys don't have excuses for this shit.

Get of ur terribad reads.

[furtiveglance]

i do not agree at all johnny is scum.

who is scum there bud

already told u the whole council is town.

I don't think you really believe this.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Mean, all mean

[Firebringer]

@fire, who are you considering to be scum again?

if ur read my crazy theory in council pt. Its the lower wim players

Unowen, Dannflor, Enchant, Titus/Lld

I want to talk to dannflor more though, i think he might just had life stuff that lowered his WIM that doesn't fit my theory.

Unowen is def scum in my book.

[UNOwen]

Do i need to repeat why Rhae was town? Rhae literally advocated for King Mastina who we know is town.
Ur saying that RHAE who thinks so highly of mastina, as scum wants to put MASTINA in charge of this town. We know mastina is town now, you guys don't have excuses for this shit.

Get of ur terribad reads.

What chance did mastina ever have of becoming king?

[furtiveglance]

@fire, who are you considering to be scum again?

if ur read my crazy theory in council pt. Its the lower wim players

Unowen, Dannflor, Enchant, Titus/Lld

I want to talk to dannflor more though, i think he might just had life stuff that lowered his WIM that doesn't fit my theory.

Unowen is def scum in my book.

UNOwen is Town

[GuiltyLion]

Do i need to repeat why Rhae was town? Rhae literally advocated for King Mastina who we know is town.
Ur saying that RHAE who thinks so highly of mastina, as scum wants to put MASTINA in charge of this town. We know mastina is town now, you guys don't have excuses for this shit.

Get of ur terribad reads.

Why wouldn't she just be trying to pocket and play the way she thinks town!Rhae would play

my main dislike of that slot is unwnd's associatives with Dwlee. Feels like a combo of light distancing but then unwnd comes in with a reachy meta case to try to save them. I'm also really struggling to understand why unwnd replaced out when he did, but scum narratives where he got in a fight about long term game strategy in the scum PT make more sense to me than town ones where unwnd just replaced out randomly despite indicating no real frustration with the game

[Datisi]

i don't deny that rhae's play was ??? for scum, but if she thinks she can pocket mastina (and/or mastina has terrible reads, which i'm leaning on currently, no offense) then it's beneficial for scum to have her as king. unwnd's associates with dwlee are dogshit, and johnny's reads in the council pt are just... nonsense...

not to mention that he did say how he's gonna do some hunting or wtv and ended up doing the bare minimum. the "andante hardbussed" read makes no sense, all the scumreads are "idk vibes".

@fire, sorry i did read that but i forgot about it. i could potentially vote owen.

[Firebringer]

Do i need to repeat why Rhae was town? Rhae literally advocated for King Mastina who we know is town.
Ur saying that RHAE who thinks so highly of mastina, as scum wants to put MASTINA in charge of this town. We know mastina is town now, you guys don't have excuses for this shit.

Get of ur terribad reads.

What chance did mastina ever have of becoming king?

so ur saying. Rhae faked a tantrum day 1 when no one wanted mastina king. This is what u have to do.
She literally threw a tantrum because no one was pushing mastina king.

Like in ur world not only would scum!rhae think "ohh this will never happen but ill push it" but she also threw in game hissy fit for it and did this all with scum motivation.

[Thestatusquo]

I do think the play makes much less sense in a world with a town mastina, but I guess I've just really decided I don't really think its super alignment indicative either way and unwnd gave me the hibbities basically the whole time he was in the game.

[Firebringer]

players: mastina is super sus
dats: well mastina town
fire: well i was right
players: well rhae slot super sus
Fire: guys, no. that makes no sense.
Players: but it does, you see rhae played 3d chess and wanted to pocket town!mastina.
Fire: yeah....thats why she threw a fit at Shea and was advocating for him to be overthrown while knowing shea could have kill her at anytime because he was annoyed at her. Yeah...this all checks out.

[Thestatusquo]

you don't think the dwlee unwnd associatives are bad?

[Thestatusquo]

Also, why didn't you fund the other roles?

[UNOwen]

so ur saying. Rhae faked a tantrum day 1 when no one wanted mastina king. This is what u have to do.
She literally threw a tantrum because no one was pushing mastina king.

Like in ur world not only would scum!rhae think "ohh this will never happen but ill push it" but she also threw in game hissy fit for it and did this all with scum motivation.

Scum strat to do as she would as town. Not unlikely?

[GuiltyLion]

Shea what do you think about my idea to make Mastina Prince if Johnny is executed today

[Firebringer]

shea i haven't been thinking of Rhae slot since i hard town sloted it end of day 1.
I don't think anyone can point me to anything to convince me otherwise tbh. So if anyone is trying to appeal to me, they are going to need to attack my reasoning for finding Rhae townie. Which I don't think anyone can do because it all boils down to Rhae was playing some genius level 3d chess moves

[Dannflor]

I kinda think Rhae would be worshipping mastina as either alignment? like I don't think she wouldn't try to pocket her

[Thestatusquo]

I thought the point of the investment on night one was that we could basically have a full range of night actions going forward. I don't think pooky designed a game where the sum total of night actions we could have in 10:5 is 2 doc and 1 cop result.

Like, the investment angle makes sense on day 1 but we're very much in the meat of the game now and it feels like this is exactly where we want our power roles, so what happened to the investment from night 1 and why wasn't there more money to fund more roles?

[Firebringer]

Also, why didn't you fund the other roles?

U mean andante? I asked for peoples opinion and no one said they wanted andante to act.