House of the Dragon - Game Over!

[Roden]

What does voting GL right now do? There's no pressure from it, no one seems go he agreeing with here or in the PT but no one's really trying to stop me either. I'm more interested in discerning GL's alignment than trying to flip him outright, the same reason I wasn't voting him yesterday.

This doesn't make much sense. You're not voting because you don't think you can get support...but you also are "discerning" his alignment still? So do you think he's scum or not?

Do you only vote people when it's popular or when you're 100% convinced? Is that your meta?

If I only voted people when it was popular, I wouldn't have voted Titus yesterday.

I don't like doing vanity votes, but yes I'll vote if I'm 100% convinced. I'm not 100% convinced on GL yet, if I was there wouldn't be any point in me engaging with him because I'm not gonna convince him that he's scum. I'm engaging (or arguing if you want to give a less charitable take) with him to gauge his tone and how he reacts, I want to see if he can convince me that I'm wrong and how he goes about doing it.

why should i town read you off of PYP, roden?

Not even just PYP since there are other recent town games. but that one is fresh enough that you should have a general idea of my town play. What do you think I'm doing differently that's out of my town range?

Ok, I think you've had a pretty extensive back and forth here. Let's hear some conclusions about GL's alignment. Because frankly, I find this quibbling boring and not actually going anywhere.

I would like to see you vote someone.

Are you not reading the game? I've done all of that except vote, and I already told you when and why I'll vote.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Don’t you think Dwlee being town makes GL and VP more likely wolves or are you too far in their pockets to comprehend?

Remember when you said this to Dats? Funny how regardless of dwlee's flip, your views haven't actually adjusted at all. Almost like they are fake.

They have adjusted.
I wolf read Johnny and Roden.
I’m not sure on them.
As for your slot and GL’s it lowered but then raised again after analysis.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Also VP purposely ignoring my GL point of their vote switch from Dwlee to Enchant then Maria is concerning.

If I didn’t know any better I’d say VP Is a wolf with GL.

[Roden]

Drapion you still haven't explained your case on my slot

[VP Baltar]

I wolf read Johnny and Roden.

Then why dafuq you saying there is a wolf on Johnny's wagon?

[VP Baltar]

Like, I really need the actual townies in this ball of snakes to start playing better. It is very hard to sort when so many people are scumsiding

[VP Baltar]

Shea, if we lim Johnny, do you appoint a new heir before the night?

[Roden]

Drapion you still haven't explained your case on my slot

Also what was the point of making a big scene in the PT about how wrong you were and how bad you your reads are and that you need to stop playing so aggressive and start reassessing the game...just to continue doing the exact same shit today?

Like, we were even having a conversation like you were actually trying to work with me. So I don't get the scum read on me here with zero explanation.

[Roden]

Like, I really need the actual townies in this ball of snakes to start playing better. It is very hard to sort when so many people are scumsiding

Who's scumsiding?

[VP Baltar]

Like, I really need the actual townies in this ball of snakes to start playing better. It is very hard to sort when so many people are scumsiding

Who's scumsiding?

Shea on D1, drapion, mastina, andante, you to some degree with this GL stuff, LLD, etc

There aren't that many scum in the game, so I'm not sure exactly what's up with the townies in that mix.

[VP Baltar]

Basically, if you come out of D1, and your top scum candidates include me, GL, datisi or andres, you're just not even trying at this point, imo

[VP Baltar]

*D2

[Roden]

I think it's healthy for the game state to suspect people who are at the core of this game and 1) not receiving any real pressure, 2) have some questionable reads, and 3) are not getting targeted by the NK.

[VP Baltar]

I think it's healthy for the game state to suspect people who are at the core of this game and 1) not receiving any real pressure, 2) have some questionable reads, and 3) are not getting targeted by the NK.

1) GL was legit targeted yesterday. 2) which questionable reads are those? 3) who are you referring to?

[Roden]

I think it's healthy for the game state to suspect people who are at the core of this game and 1) not receiving any real pressure, 2) have some questionable reads, and 3) are not getting targeted by the NK.

1) GL was legit targeted yesterday. 2) which questionable reads are those? 3) who are you referring to?

1) Feels very "have my cake and eat it too" to see GL say that he wasn't in danger, only for you to claim that he was. Y'all need to talk and come to a conclusion on that.

2) The reads on me, Drapion, Mastina, and flipped townies.

3) The...the core you just name dropped and told me to stop arguing with and instead blindly sheep.

[Firebringer]

Basically, if you come out of D1, and your top scum candidates include me, GL, datisi or andres, you're just not even trying at this point, imo

im still tinfoiling theory ur scum

[ProfessorDrapion]

I wolf read Johnny and Roden.

Then why dafuq you saying there is a wolf on Johnny's wagon?

Past tense buddy.
Past tense.
Read carefully.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Like, I really need the actual townies in this ball of snakes to start playing better. It is very hard to sort when so many people are scumsiding

Who's scumsiding?

Shea on D1, drapion, mastina, andante, you to some degree with this GL stuff, LLD, etc

There aren't that many scum in the game, so I'm not sure exactly what's up with the townies in that mix.

Your right there aren’t but we don’t know for sure who they are, why you acting like you have TMI?
You put my name in here but didn’t you have wolf read me previously and also wolf read Mastina hard yesterday with GL.

[ProfessorDrapion]

My spicy scumread is Andante because of the Dwlee town case they made in the disenter QT

Is that spicy?

Considering you responded to this. (Then your next post is for some reason unrelated to this when the player responded which IMO is one example of a wolfy thing of many you have done this game.)

[Datisi]

what about the recent events makes johnny and/or roden look better and not worse, drapion?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Sorry VP but I think if your town your gonna need to “play better” as you put it.

Start not being wolfy.

[Roden]

what about the recent events makes johnny and/or roden look better and not worse, drapion?

Uh...Drapion scum reads both of us.

[Datisi]

I wolf read Johnny and Roden.

Then why dafuq you saying there is a wolf on Johnny's wagon?

Past tense buddy.
Past tense.
Read carefully.

doesn't this post say that his scumread of you two is in past tense?

[Roden]

Oh. He didn't respond to me when I asked why his read hadn't changed.

[Enchant]

I have theory about what mafia doing.

They kill useless townie councils (tracker) to notdirectly harm powerful PRs in future, without risking wasting attack on real Cop (unless he is scum). Afterwards when they manage to kill Cop, there will be no one to replace him.