Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[Freedom]

ive only read about 15 pages and i think so.
I have no clue how u got to townread to begin with on the slot. Its very fucking wild.

I think that skitter claimed it was Scol's vibes.

[skitter30]

ive only read about 15 pages and i think so.
I have no clue how u got to townread to begin with on the slot. Its very fucking wild.

I dont think the way he's playing this comes from scum

[Firebringer]

Right, and scum-me chooses ro spend the entire game defending her partner who is clearly gonna flipped at some point because ...

We gotta fill in that blank in order for that to make sense

because u think ur going to look like bad town for it instead of scum for it?

I really cant imagine why scum-me would think this is a good path to take in this scenario

Also hey fire

hey skitter

i mean at this point u seem pretty entrenched in ur view and I don't think like pooky said u switching would make sense without some good reason without it looking weird. So ur only options are silence or keep hard defending to make it look like u can't be partners.

Also first few pages looks like Soli tried to distance with u. And I repeat, ur townread on the slot. Not getting even with these last two pages of ur explanation.

I got to read more of the game tomorrow tho. So maybe my feelings will change.

[Herta]

I don't think scoliosis is going to flip maf at this point either. If nothing else because it's been difficult to get the lim done. I don't know why gera would defend him so hard, and same with skitter.

[skitter30]

Hey i wasnt here for like a week
I'm p sure if i wanted to find a reason to switch i could have come back with some sort of revelation to justify voting if i wanted to

And there's a lot in the early pages abt my initial townread too, lmk what u think when u get there

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Scoliosis
be back tomorrow morning.
Thats E-1 since IV unovted.

[skitter30]

Still don't think we should do this

[Freedom]

Still don't think we should do this

It could be informative though.

[skitter30]

In that ...?
I dont believe in flipping slots because it might be informative

[Freedom]

In that ...?
I dont believe in flipping slots because it might be informative

I'm not saying that we should eliminate Scol for informative reasons but the way people have interacted around his wagon provide a wealth of information.

[Freedom]

no opinion, what opinion should i have

I don't think scoliosis is particularly scummy but it would be a good flip because he's been in the thick of it the whole game. It would inform the alignments of some others.

Please elaborate on how it would inform the alignments of others

How much clarity do you gain on a Scol scumflip or townflip?

We're going to be able to better judge probably why there was resistance or not from particular players. To what degree I don't know, but if scoliosis flips red then we can pretty much lock kt as town, whoever had that brush with scoliosis at the beginning of the game val maybe as town. Probably others.

This post from Herta provides some examples.

[KittyTacky]

ok is it just me or does scoli feel like scum who gave up

He just deflated lol. But scum deflated, not town deflated.

Can you elaborate on your Pooky townread? Do you have prior experience with Pooky?

1. I just think his playstyle is fundamentally townie, especially if Scol flips scum. Would scum bus in the D1 situation? I was basically the only one pushing Scol that hard until Pooky joined in. Would scum doom a teammate when he could just try to discredit me? I suppose if Scol is town, Pooky stonks aren't that high but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
2. Yeah, a game or two.

[KittyTacky]

is kittytacky still alive.
Obvious town there.

I got killed by scum, vigged, babysitter'd, hider'd, and also modkilled. All at once.

[KittyTacky]

The main thing that stops me from wanting Scol is just how absolutely dead the gamestate was at EOD. gera was likely to go through but not at all certain. If Scol was scum I would've expected more activity/more urgency from both Scol and his team to move towards gera.

Agreed

Again, why would he be urgent if a townie essentially jumped onto the gallows and hanged himself? He was in no danger as long as gera didn't claim and kept being stubborn.

A little earlier on, before the whole not claim thing, it wasnf obvious who was going to get flipped and nobody was particularly trying to save scoli

Scol is an alt, he probably knows gera's style and that gera is bigger LHF than even me.

[KittyTacky]

They exhibit the vibe i described above
I think scum would be trying more, and not checking out due to lack of patience or from getting annoyed

I see.
Personally, I'd expect Town to be efforting more under pressure to save themselves.

I mean at least I often just kinda deflate as scum when I'm sinking. As town I fight until my last breath.

[KittyTacky]

Scol meta probs different but jsyk.

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Scoliosis
be back tomorrow morning.
Thats E-1 since IV unovted.

[Freedom]

They exhibit the vibe i described above
I think scum would be trying more, and not checking out due to lack of patience or from getting annoyed

I see.
Personally, I'd expect Town to be efforting more under pressure to save themselves.

I mean at least I often just kinda deflate as scum when I'm sinking. As town I fight until my last breath.

I agree with this.
I feel like Scol seems to not really be fighting his wagon.

[KittyTacky]

They exhibit the vibe i described above
I think scum would be trying more, and not checking out due to lack of patience or from getting annoyed

I see.
Personally, I'd expect Town to be efforting more under pressure to save themselves.

I mean at least I often just kinda deflate as scum when I'm sinking. As town I fight until my last breath.

I agree with this.
I feel like Scol seems to not really be fighting his wagon.

They exhibit the vibe i described above
I think scum would be trying more, and not checking out due to lack of patience or from getting annoyed

I see.
Personally, I'd expect scum to be efforting more under pressure to save themselves.

EBWOP

So do you think this is scummy or not? You seem to be indecisive.

[Freedom]

I feel like Town will want to contribute some final reads but scum will try to dismantle their wagon.
Scol seems to be doing neither.
So I'm conflicted tbh.
Though, leaning scum for his focus on you.

[Herta]

I feel like Town will want to contribute some final reads but scum will try to dismantle their wagon.
Scol seems to be doing neither.
So I'm conflicted tbh.
Though, leaning scum for his focus on you.

I don't understand why scoliosis focusing on kitty is scummy but kitty focusing on scoliosis is townie. And Is scoliosis really tunneling kitty?

[Freedom]

I feel like Town will want to contribute some final reads but scum will try to dismantle their wagon.
Scol seems to be doing neither.
So I'm conflicted tbh.
Though, leaning scum for his focus on you.

I don't understand why scoliosis focusing on kitty is scummy but kitty focusing on scoliosis is townie. And Is scoliosis really tunneling kitty?

Scol seemed to focus more on Kitty than others on his wagon.
It's true that Kitty has focused on Scol a lot, though.

[Freedom]

Though, I think that you're right in that Scol seems less tunnelled on Kitty that Kitty is on Scol.

[Val89]

What is the scum agenda behind Val scumreading me? He doesnt genuinely think hes going to start a real wagon on me so why does he feel the need to reach to sus me?

For the record, I'm not

scumreading

IV. I'm townreading them a little less than I was by EoD yesterday, but it's still a townread. I saw something that didn't quite make sense (the strength of conviction of a town!gera, which today was indicated as a real thought and not the overstated olive-branch to lure gera into spewing I mistook it as yesterday and thus ++town at that point) and I wanted it out there in case I'm not around to talk about it later if this game goes somewhere where the existence of possible well entrenched and hidden scum!IV actually matters to the game outcome, but I've acknowledged that scum!IV is only one of the possibilities that accounts for that ping.

Speaking of, if the alternative is true and there was good reason for a more experienced but un-informed player to see town!gera was obvious there, am I to take it that whatever signs you saw in gera aren't also applying to Sco here; ie: that it was nothing to do with the obstinate refusal to play?

[Datisi]

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