Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 2.05

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-12-15 15:00:00).

yeet

Scoliosis [6]:

KittyTacky, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Toto

, Ydrasse, unwnd, Firebringer

Herta [2]:

Val89, skitter30

PookyTheMagicalBear [1]:

Scoliosis

skitter30 [1]:

Herta

not voting [2]:

Freedom, innocentvillager

mod notes

~ skitter30 v/la fridays/saturdays
~ freedom v/la 7.12. and 9.12.
~ this is a mod note

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[Val89]

she just doesnt seem into this game. like her read of scoli feels really not very fleshed out at all. its kind of this weird hand wavey thing?

Yeah, I agree. The first part could well be accounted for IRL issues, but the second part of that is what's had me wondering from the start - Sco has been scummy enough to end up being a leading wagon, with that wagon comprising at least a portion of slots she says she is townreading, but to her (and seemingly only her) Sco is obviously town but that read seems to have come from his opening post, that it was 'trying to move the game out of rvs', and when I've pointed out the issues I have with the post being internally inconsistent I've been told I'm 'expecting too much of a early post'.

I've considered it possible evidence of TMI wrt to a town!Sco playing in a way I just can't understand, rather than a partner-defence, particularly with how willing skitter was to tie themselves together page 1, but I guess I am warming up to the idea they could be partnered here.

if you vote for him it looks like the world's most awkward read flip and the first place we look for a bus vote

if you don't vote for him maybe we get bored by the wagon and go somewhere else

worse comes to worse and we actually yeet the guy you can claim tomorrow that you would've bussed him or not defended him if he was going over and try to sell us another brochure on why Herta is mafia.

This makes a lot of sense.

[Val89]

its weird to me that unwnd was voting for scoli at EOD1 which basically had scoli + gera as the two options and he goes on to start today pushing for herta; it doesnt really make sense to me as scoli didnt get any townier and its unexplained. also i dont really understand his herta case or what herta did between d1/d2 to become more attractive of a lim option to unwnd.

I mean, there is this, which I thought was a good point and the reason I decided not to hop straight on to Sco's wagon today. It's also proven fairly accurate to how today has gone:

Do I really want to deal with an obstinate player twice over. Gera died being stubborn and Scol is going to be even more stubborn. This is not me saying I changed my mind on Scol but I just feel like maybe it's a bit of a waste.

I'm feeling a little uncomfortable on the Herta wagon with only skitter at this point. Unwnd does also seem to have gotten to the other reason I was hoping we might get a Herta wagon rolling today - skitters ISO is a focused on two things: Sco is town, but Herta is not. I was hoping if we can get Herta to actual play as well, and get a better read there, that might tell us something about skitter. I think making that connection independently is a point in favour of town!unwnd, but doesn't look like that wagon is actually going to happen, though.

I'm going to leave my vote where it is for the moment because I think I am going to end up just hammering Sco at this rate and see where we are tomorrow.

[innocentvillager]

Im at that stage where im questioning everything

[innocentvillager]

skitter I kind of see what you’re saying ablut how scum doesnt play like this but idk maybe hes just tired of constantly playing scum?

I agree with freedom that i dont expect town to play like this either.

So at this point with the information we have is which is more unlikely?

Stubborn deflated town who’s too lazy and sees no path forward or deflated burnt out wolf?

[KittyTacky]

Pretty sure scum crumples under pressure more often than town. I don't have any concrete stats to back this up but it's a hunch I have.

[KittyTacky]

Because a lie is hard to keep up when you're being constantly shot at.

[KittyTacky]

Though this goes beyond deflated, he deadass stopped posting lol.

[KittyTacky]

And if he does post all we will get is more question dodging, manipulation attempts, and rudeness. Just hammer.

[innocentvillager]

They exhibit the vibe i described above
I think scum would be trying more, and not checking out due to lack of patience or from getting annoyed

um do you even know who he is?

him not trying is very scum indicative.... town!him basically never shuts up

Who is he?

[innocentvillager]

ok is it just me or does scoli feel like scum who gave up

He just deflated lol. But scum deflated, not town deflated.

Can you elaborate on your Pooky townread? Do you have prior experience with Pooky?

bruh you've played with scum!me

scum!me looks nothing like this

How so?

[Datisi]

prodding unwnd and Scoliosis.

[Freedom]

They exhibit the vibe i described above
I think scum would be trying more, and not checking out due to lack of patience or from getting annoyed

um do you even know who he is?

him not trying is very scum indicative.... town!him basically never shuts up

Who is he?

Apparently, FL.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok is it just me or does scoli feel like scum who gave up

He just deflated lol. But scum deflated, not town deflated.

Can you elaborate on your Pooky townread? Do you have prior experience with Pooky?

bruh you've played with scum!me

scum!me looks nothing like this

How so?

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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

They exhibit the vibe i described above
I think scum would be trying more, and not checking out due to lack of patience or from getting annoyed

um do you even know who he is?

him not trying is very scum indicative.... town!him basically never shuts up

Who is he?

I think alt-outting is rude but you should be able to figure it out yourself if you try

[Ydrasse]

if you know you know

[innocentvillager]

I thought a bunch of people thought it was Flavor Leaf so I went with that. I remember you saying it probably wasn't Flavor Leaf. I see some mannerisms that are him but I'm not sure, is like figuring out who's an alt of who just like some skill that everyone has but me ??

[innocentvillager]

ok is it just me or does scoli feel like scum who gave up

He just deflated lol. But scum deflated, not town deflated.

Can you elaborate on your Pooky townread? Do you have prior experience with Pooky?

bruh you've played with scum!me

scum!me looks nothing like this

How so?

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are you really trying to convince me that the difference between your towngame and your scumgame is you meme through the entirety of your scumgames and not your towngames? what is the point of this?

[innocentvillager]

VOTE: Pooky

why is it that every time I talk to you I feel like I want to kill you

If you are town I'm worried it's just a playstyle thing but like it feels like you are trying to manipulate everyone in the palm of hands

[innocentvillager]

why am I so bad at grammar when I just spew my thoughts

[innocentvillager]

Idk I feel like for whatever reason you're scum this game and for some reason you decided to try

And if that's right I think your team has like at least one of your friends or something idk because why else would you randomly try so hard this game after a ton of scumflips

[innocentvillager]

why is it that every time I talk to you I feel like I want to kill you

I just reskimmed Pooky's iso, this is a bit of an exaggeration I must admit

I'll think about it more tomorrow

[Freedom]

Idk I feel like for whatever reason you're scum this game and for some reason you decided to try

And if that's right I think your team has like at least one of your friends or something idk because why else would you randomly try so hard this game after a ton of scumflips

Which game are you talking about?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I thought a bunch of people thought it was Flavor Leaf so I went with that. I remember you saying it probably wasn't Flavor Leaf. I see some mannerisms that are him but I'm not sure, is like figuring out who's an alt of who just like some skill that everyone has but me ??

there's like ~25 active players and it's pretty easy to cross out who it's not by just looking at which players it's in a game with.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you really trying to convince me that the difference between your towngame and your scumgame is you meme through the entirety of your scumgames and not your towngames? what is the point of this?

I am explaining the difference between my scum!game and my town!game in a simple way for you to understand because I think if you understood what my alignment is, it would be easier for you to play the game.

this is known as "self-meta"

something which you should understand as you do it yourself.