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[the worst]

hi friends

i have something like,

duck
freedom
lukewarm (apparently dann disagreed p heavily with this bc he thought val's entire iso was ali-theatre)
ss
furtiveglance
cephrir

a like cursory glance tells me that cephrir is probably most likely (underwhelming action around scum wagons, poor reads on flipped scum), but i don't really trust Nor's contributions and furtive kind of feels like they're kind of just hangin out and i don't have a read on it.

can we jam about ss a little? i think this resembles his towngame and if anyone has a stronger read than me i'd love to hear it.

[the worst]

there's some weird magic going on where i don't actually think scum have really been bussing? flipped scum had decent theatre d1 w [fire,catboi] and [ali,everyone] but none of it has been

antagonistic

theatre. i feel like if val was theatre, it was almost like, deliberately bad theatre which doesn't really fit my vibe for this scumteam. consider, if you will for a moment, that scum have really not bussed in a meaningful way

FINAL VOTE COUNT

[10]

T3

:

Titus

,

KittyTacky

, Dannflor,

Datisi

, NorwegianboyEE, Charloux,

Mistyx

,

Marashu

,

Enchant

,

SCRRRDBEAR

[3]

Titus

: Cephrir,

PenguinPower

,

fireisredsir

[2]

KittyTacky

: Something_Smart,

Bell

[1]

Alisae

: Val89
[1]

Charloux

:

catboi

[1]

Mistyx

:

T3

[1]

Not voting

:

Alisae

FINAL VOTE COUNT

[8]

MathBlade

:

SCRRRDBEAR

,

Mistyx

,

PenguinPower

, Freedom,

flow trap

,

Bell

,

Enchant

,

MathBlade

[1]

Datisi

: Cephrir

[6]

Not voting

:

Datisi

, Toogeloo, Dannflor,

fireisredsir

, Something_Smart, boy next door

math was p caught out so i'm not sure this is super meaningful. interestingly while i'm rereading this i don't actually feel like toog's defence of math feels all that aligned? anyone feel like cross checking this?

FINAL VOTE COUNT

[7]

fireisredsir

:

Mistyx

,

Bell

, Freedom, Cephrir, Dannflor,

PenguinPower

,

Datisi

[1]

boy next door

:

SCRRRDBEAR

[1]

Cephrir

:

fireisredsir

[4]

Not voting

:

flow trap

, Toogeloo, Something_Smart, boy next door

FINAL VOTE COUNT

[5]

JunkoChan

: Lukewarm, Freedom,

Bell

,

JunkoChan

, Cephrir
[1]

Dannflor

: furtiveglance

[2]

Not voting

: Dannflor, Something_Smart

now that i'm thinking over this i feel like we're probably actually looking for a solitary busser who bussed reasonably well but i thought it was pretty interesting that both t3 and fireisredsir had 0-1 bussers!

one thing i'm really wary about w nor is that he had a wagon for most of d1, but then at the 11th hour the mastina wagon sprung up which has been revealed to be p heavily scum motivated. i'm on the fence about whether it's actually worth scum coming out to play this hard this early to save nor but it's got me thinkin.

FINAL VOTE COUNT

[11]

mastina

:

Shiro

, Dannflor,

fireisredsir

, Val89,

Bell

,

PenguinPower

, NorwegianboyEE,

Alisae

,

Titus

,

Marashu

,

Mistyx

[5]

KittyTacky

:

catboi

,

Datisi

, Cephrir, Something_Smart, Charloux
[2]

NorwegianboyEE

:

mastina

,

KittyTacky

[1]

Datisi

:

SCRRRDBEAR

[1]

Bell

:

Frozen Angel

[2]

Not Voting

:

T3

i'm kind of deliberating whether there was another scum on kitty or another scum on mastina, they were both pretty surreal wagons in retrospect so i'm not really sure.




sorry this is probably not the explosive start anyone was expecting, i'm washed up and this game is hard.

[the worst]

thanks for reading, basically

- if anyone has any strong reads on SS/[nor,bnd,lukewarm] slots i'd love to hear them. if i had to gamble the game on it on short notice i'd call SS town.
- if anyone feels like going over toog's comments around the mathblade guilty i also don't really feel like they look particularly aligned with mathblade. that feeling surprises and alarms me.

i'll be back later!

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Cephrir

[Lukewarm]

How much of the game did you manage to read over the night?

[Lukewarm]

[nor,bnd,lukewarm]

That is not the slot breakdown

I am [Val, bnd, luke]

Furtive is [norwee, toog, furtive]

[the worst]

sorry, it's not easy having so many thoughts arm wrestling in my brain. i am interested in thoughts on both of your slots i suppose, i did mean nor/toog/furtive there tho.

[the worst]

How much of the game did you manage to read over the night?

er like, most of it, in disconnected chunks

any reason in particular for this question

[Cephrir]

Did bell express any thoughts about your alignment during the night?

He said I was town, but me telling you that now is not going to help anything

[Lukewarm]

How much of the game did you manage to read over the night?

er like, most of it, in disconnected chunks

any reason in particular for this question

It seemed odd that the basis for sorting my slot in your posts were revolving around Val's interactions with Ali instead of me, yesterday, single handedly stopping your slot from being eliminated and killing Junko instead.

Seems like the More Alignment Indicative Thing lol

So I was trying to see if you had read that part of the game yet.

[Lukewarm]

Did bell express any thoughts about your alignment during the night?

He said I was town, but me telling you that now is not going to help anything

Did he give a reason for changing, because you seemed to be in his PoE yesterday

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Cephrir

If this slot is going to refuse to do anything besides vote me for no reason as they indicated yesterday, we might as well just kill me and get on with it

I asked bell to vig me but as you can see he could not

[Cephrir]

Did bell express any thoughts about your alignment during the night?

He said I was town, but me telling you that now is not going to help anything

Did he give a reason for changing, because you seemed to be in his PoE yesterday

Not really. He said it was funny that he finally got to that read and then I asked to die.

[Cephrir]

If we think this scumteam decided to run weird_interactions.exe then furtive as scum fits best

Or we can go with this "weird interactions except we ignore cephrir entirely" option I guess

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Cephrir

If this slot is going to refuse to do anything besides vote me for no reason as they indicated yesterday, we might as well just kill me and get on with it

I asked bell to vig me but as you can see he could not

This defeatist stuff is partly why I'm voting for you, feels like a scum tactic.

[the worst]

How much of the game did you manage to read over the night?

er like, most of it, in disconnected chunks

any reason in particular for this question

It seemed odd that the basis for sorting my slot in your posts were revolving around Val's interactions with Ali instead of me, yesterday, single handedly stopping your slot from being eliminated and killing Junko instead.

Seems like the More Alignment Indicative Thing lol

So I was trying to see if you had read that part of the game yet.

i noticed that you were on point yesterday but didn't clock you being so significant, thanks for that!

i'm actually pretty wary of a busser atm so that isn't like massively helpful in keeping me comfortable abt you, sorry. a lot of stuff scum do late in the game is to try and squeeze through *just* enough elims to be the last person standing, so unfortunately i think that seems like a sensible thing to do regardless of your alignment (lest risking town chaining junko=>you, in a world where you're scum together).

that said i don't really think it's you anyway. hopefully this explains why i'm more focused on earlier in the game tho

[the worst]

If we think this scumteam decided to run weird_interactions.exe then furtive as scum fits best

Or we can go with this "weird interactions except we ignore cephrir entirely" option I guess

yeahhhh this is basically where i'm at

like, it's super easy to vote you and push you and assume you're scum. you've had some off associations and i can't really find anything clearing.

that said the more i drill down the more i just feel like it's kind of a default and i don't feel great about defaulting given how sneaky this scumteam has been >_>

[the worst]

VOTE: Cephrir

alright since i'm doubling down on pocketing ceph - i've seen that you think it's him or me, but can you talk thru why you actually think ceph is the last scum?

are you going for him first because it's easier / i'm a big scary duck, or do you think he's genuinely higher scum equity?

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Cephrir

If this slot is going to refuse to do anything besides vote me for no reason as they indicated yesterday, we might as well just kill me and get on with it

I asked bell to vig me but as you can see he could not

This defeatist stuff is partly why I'm voting for you, feels like a scum tactic.

It's not working very well if so

[Cephrir]

I guess this one could be a weird interaction but I do think fore torpedoing my first attempt at content to keep me out of the game is pretty unaligned

[the worst]

when/who was that?

[Cephrir]

Fire*

[Cephrir]

It's strange that people started saying I sound like I don't want to be here when I in fact just started getting into the game and trying

yea it was sort of the opposite for me actually

earlier i just kinda had a vague nullscumlean bc you didn't seem towny. but that can happen if you're town and just not really feeling into the game

but 2173 really reminded me of lake melancholy where you would sometimes like, do those quote analysis walls where you point out responses to things but then overall it doesn't really go anywhere and while you're doing it you sort of have this energy of like your heart isn't really in it

it just kinda feels like you felt obligated to try but you're just kinda like limply waving yourself in the general direction of stuff thats happening

and i thought the way you handled it live was kind of weird and felt like it was phrased in a way to encourage both sides but not really wanting to take one

so when i asked you to take a stance your response of doing the post by post analysis but still not really taking a side felt weird and appease-y to me rather than something that came from a place of natural thought

and like if you're town then i feel kinda bad for dumping on your attempt to get engaged in the game but like i feel like there's a disconnect between you saying that you really feel its important and the way that you handled it

like that feeling of importance has to come from somewhere

its also just something i like to do as scum, if i see a moment of interaction where i can tell the energy feels off somehow is just fixate on that moment and try to work out the different angles of who could i could push as scum as a result of it

whereas i think town is more likely to have something specific that triggered their interest and have a worldview that they build around the situation. it still feels to me like you're just trying to poke holes in whichever side you can

[Cephrir]

2245 is actual guilt because he knows I'm town

[the worst]

oh interesting. 2243 is kind of paradoxical (like, over-justifying a null scum read on someone because they aren't really going anywhere is..very funny) in a way that feels like it actually has fairly limited cognitive load.

if you're scumbuddies those are really good posts