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Mastina, in your own words, why is furtive scum"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Drapion the council literally knew who was being protected last night.In post 4571, ProfessorDrapion wrote:What to do is Mastina is fucking WRONG. It’s Narrow cause Mastina can’t open her eyes and realize at least 1 wolf is on the damn council.
A failed kill literally gave the town a mislim.
You could argue that if scum deliberately failed a kill which kept the games on evens, they did so for towncred.
But we went into the night with 13 alive. Failing to kill kept us at 13 rather than 12--which literally gives the town an extra mislim that literally any kill would've stopped.
The scum could've killed literally anyone, except the player(s) the council were protecting.
And that would've kept the game on evens.
Instead, there is a no-kill, and the game went onto odds, giving the town a mislim.
Because the scum didn't know who to kill and in all probability, just shot Firebringer.
Something council members would know not to do.-
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Why would scum shoot FB
He's like the most miselimmable player on the council if he's town
If I were scum I'd be shooting Titus or Mastina every time"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Four scum supported Shea?In post 4587, Roden wrote:I feel like...I have to be wrong somewhere. Otherwise four scum supported Shea, who I also town read.
Shocker!
It's almost like I fucking said that was a scumdriven King election since day fucking one.
YES, four scum voted Shea. I've been telling you that since D1.
The more the game goes on, the more I'm gonna be proven right.-
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Why does scum kill tracker three nights in a rowShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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So four scum supported Shea and used that momentum and the supporters PT to get exactly zero (0) scum on the council?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Like I've said before, tracker is the only role that can actually catch a scum on the councilIn post 4729, Firebringer wrote:Why does scum kill tracker three nights in a row"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Still major red flags here.In post 4718, mastina wrote:
I mean.In post 4564, GuiltyLion wrote:if all of my townreads are town then the POE is incredibly incredibly narrow and that is worrying me but I am not sure what to do
Last night confirmed that the entirety of the town council is town. Shea town, Firebringer town, fireisredsir town, Datisi town, me town, Titus town.
The result on LLD is town--given Datisi town, that is absolute.
That's 7/13 as conftown right now.
Which, yes, means the scum pool is quite narrow--but when scum have been denied a seat on the council the entire game, them's the breaks.
There's 3 scum in 6 names.
{Roden, UNOwen, GuiltyLion, ProfessorDrapion, furtiveglance, Enchant}.
We basically have an autowin here.
But that said, I think Drapion is town here.
I lean town on Roden, too.
So that leaves four scum in {UNOwen, GuiltyLion, furtiveglance, Enchant}.
As you are in that pool, you naturally don't like it.
But that pool is absolute.
The seven conftown are conftown.
We have three scum left.
And that's three scum for six slots and you are a candidate.
My preference is furtiveglance > UNOwen = GuiltyLion > Enchant > Roden > ProfessorDrapion.
This feels precisely like the kind of post that scum mastina makes when she's turning the corner and wants to create a wincondition for scum.
honestly, given that the people who are on the side of the King's Power currently believe the game is in auto lock, the only hanging thread that we need to confirm that is Datisi's alignment.
If we kill Datisi and Datisi flips town, we have Mastina/Titus/LLD town and we can appoint another cop, I think? I think we have the space to do that?
And if Datisi flips scum we murder Mastina and we're probably winning there too.
Frankly I just think this is the day to kill Datisi.
I'll say this much, if I suddenly die tonight after doing literally nothing this whole game just because I became confirmed town over the people in the council who are confirmed town with power.... you know what to do as town, right?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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why did it quote the enchant post...Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Okay well I had tracker lolIn post 4731, GuiltyLion wrote:
Like I've said before, tracker is the only role that can actually catch a scum on the councilIn post 4729, Firebringer wrote:Why does scum kill tracker three nights in a rowShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Sorry, Drapion, but
youare the one who needs to listen to ME. I am the one on the council who knows what went on there.
The council is all town, period.
Now, does that mean Firebringer's push on you is good?
Why no, no it's not. You're town.
But Firebringer isn't scum for his push on you. Don't confuse bad for scum. Firebringer isbadfor having that push; Firebringer isn'tscumfor that push.-
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Especially if they're using their sekrit powersIn post 4731, GuiltyLion wrote:
Like I've said before, tracker is the only role that can actually catch a scum on the councilIn post 4729, Firebringer wrote:Why does scum kill tracker three nights in a row"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Did I say this all before the UNOwen interaction with you?In post 4681, Firebringer wrote:Drapion progression in PT on LLD
Monday Nov 22 - put LLD in the null pile #137
Monday Nov 28 - says he wants to elim in the LLD/UNO #347
This is all the references i see to LLD
i think he also said at some point in relation to us pointing out lld not using thread that not using PT was scummy but i could be misremembering that for someone else but it sounds like a drapion post
I mean MAYBE I said that but I was just thinking who could be the wolf in the King Guard and I was thinking UNOwen.-
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Ok, but look at mastinas logic hereIn post 4734, Firebringer wrote:
Okay well I had tracker lolIn post 4731, GuiltyLion wrote:
Like I've said before, tracker is the only role that can actually catch a scum on the councilIn post 4729, Firebringer wrote:Why does scum kill tracker three nights in a row
If all the PRs are town, tracker isn't a threat
So it doesn't explain why you would be shot in that universe either
Do you think you were shot?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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There's a world where this is scum outguessing to achieve this result, you understand that right?In post 4726, mastina wrote:
Drapion the council literally knew who was being protected last night.In post 4571, ProfessorDrapion wrote:What to do is Mastina is fucking WRONG. It’s Narrow cause Mastina can’t open her eyes and realize at least 1 wolf is on the damn council.
A failed kill literally gave the town a mislim.
You could argue that if scum deliberately failed a kill which kept the games on evens, they did so for towncred.
But we went into the night with 13 alive. Failing to kill kept us at 13 rather than 12--which literally gives the town an extra mislim that literally any kill would've stopped.
The scum could've killed literally anyone, except the player(s) the council were protecting.
And that would've kept the game on evens.
Instead, there is a no-kill, and the game went onto odds, giving the town a mislim.
Because the scum didn't know who to kill and in all probability, just shot Firebringer.
Something council members would know not to do.
If we've won an extra miselimination, let's use it to confirm Datisi NOW.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Ok.In post 4735, mastina wrote:Sorry, Drapion, but
youare the one who needs to listen to ME. I am the one on the council who knows what went on there.
The council is all town, period.
Now, does that mean Firebringer's push on you is good?
Why no, no it's not. You're town.
But Firebringer isn't scum for his push on you. Don't confuse bad for scum. Firebringer isbadfor having that push; Firebringer isn'tscumfor that push.
But in the case Firebringer is a wolf I need you to use all my arguments here against him if you end up in a 1v1 scenario against the dude.
You’re the Town, I still don’t think Firebringer is Town.-
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I don’t see why we have to clear dats now.
What is the urgency now?
U realize cop power has to go to fireisred ur scumread with all rest of us having two powers LLD
We throw away cop power this secondShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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NGL that is actually a good point.In post 4732, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Still major red flags here.In post 4718, mastina wrote:
I mean.In post 4564, GuiltyLion wrote:if all of my townreads are town then the POE is incredibly incredibly narrow and that is worrying me but I am not sure what to do
Last night confirmed that the entirety of the town council is town. Shea town, Firebringer town, fireisredsir town, Datisi town, me town, Titus town.
The result on LLD is town--given Datisi town, that is absolute.
That's 7/13 as conftown right now.
Which, yes, means the scum pool is quite narrow--but when scum have been denied a seat on the council the entire game, them's the breaks.
There's 3 scum in 6 names.
{Roden, UNOwen, GuiltyLion, ProfessorDrapion, furtiveglance, Enchant}.
We basically have an autowin here.
But that said, I think Drapion is town here.
I lean town on Roden, too.
So that leaves four scum in {UNOwen, GuiltyLion, furtiveglance, Enchant}.
As you are in that pool, you naturally don't like it.
But that pool is absolute.
The seven conftown are conftown.
We have three scum left.
And that's three scum for six slots and you are a candidate.
My preference is furtiveglance > UNOwen = GuiltyLion > Enchant > Roden > ProfessorDrapion.
This feels precisely like the kind of post that scum mastina makes when she's turning the corner and wants to create a wincondition for scum.
honestly, given that the people who are on the side of the King's Power currently believe the game is in auto lock, the only hanging thread that we need to confirm that is Datisi's alignment.
If we kill Datisi and Datisi flips town, we have Mastina/Titus/LLD town and we can appoint another cop, I think? I think we have the space to do that?
And if Datisi flips scum we murder Mastina and we're probably winning there too.
Frankly I just think this is the day to kill Datisi.
I'll say this much, if I suddenly die tonight after doing literally nothing this whole game just because I became confirmed town over the people in the council who are confirmed town with power.... you know what to do as town, right?
Hit it and then make you a cop.
But I think Firebringer is more of a wolf then Dat so.-
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And u don’t even scumread dats
I repeat my point yesterday.
Elim dats is dumb until I see the best scum case possibleShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Why does it have to go to them and not a green if your certain Dat is town?In post 4741, Firebringer wrote:I don’t see why we have to clear dats now.
What is the urgency now?
U realize cop power has to go to fireisred ur scumread with all rest of us having two powers LLD
We throw away cop power this second
Lmao.-
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powers have to be assigned. everyone in the council has 2 powers except fireisred. the power would auto go to him.In post 4744, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Why does it have to go to them and not a green if your certain Dat is town?In post 4741, Firebringer wrote:I don’t see why we have to clear dats now.
What is the urgency now?
U realize cop power has to go to fireisred ur scumread with all rest of us having two powers LLD
We throw away cop power this second
Lmao.
Which to me isn't worst thing since i townread fireisred, but LLD here is just gonna shout for fireisred death tomorrow anyways.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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We had a no-kill last night--meaning, explicitly, the scum tried to kill someone who they couldn't kill.In post 4618, Roden wrote:So why isn't Titus dead?
So the question isn't "why isn't X dead", it's "why did the scum try to kill one of the two players being protected"?
One of those players was Firebringer.
So any argument of scum on the council relies on "the scum, who knew exactly where the protection was headed, decided to deliberately have their kill fail, not only taking the game off of odds (which favor scum) but also giving town an extra mislim when they also have a cop to deal with, for ???"...
...OR, far simpler:
Scum didn't know who was being protected and shot at them, failing due to the protection.
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i dont know how many times we have to repeat that powers can only be assigned to other council members for u to get it.In post 4745, ProfessorDrapion wrote:LLD cop makes more sense then fireisred lmao.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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