Open 869 | Fight for the Winter Court [Game Over!]

[Faker]

yeah but who was pushing 2 scum on day 1 while a certain tiger was harddefending borkscumfin and shoving a squeaky clean townsperson

[Faker]

I basically had it filed under "To do with Chara/Coral" and when I saw page 5 was Chara/Coral thought that was it, I actually had to hunt for skitter/Coral

what is your approach to reading me anyways, Prism? in this game in particular. i know you didn't come out with anything you felt strongly about one way or the other, but i'm wondering about your methodology, if anything.

pedit: answer this in the morning then, i support sleep.

This is easy. I don't, lmao

I remember vaguely some ideas from the Undertales but the scum ones have said little and the town ones need real progressions to work.

[absinthe]

I shouldn't have talked so much about my reads on day one of the first Fortress game.

how were your reads used against you in the first Fortress game? is that why you found yourself shifted by scum?

I think my reads had something to do with being shifted but I believe my reads probably had more to do with me being conftowned at the Gate. I was more suspicious of the town player at the Gate than the scum player on day 1, and my suspicions of scum-catboi increased over day 2, but I don't know what I would have eventually done if we had the chance to solve the Gate.

Our strategy was to solve the Gate last so the conftown player could be there to give input to the other two games.

[skitter30]

I'm fine with you in keep i just don't want to end up in gate

I do think you should go with catboi tho
An tbh the idea of farming out my catboi read sounds like an increasingly good idea

Pedit i very distinctly remember having an argument with you abt borkscum that you refused to believe soooo

[Faker]

Eh it's no rush actually, if people want me to lock I will in the morning but I can also wait until closer to deadline/until people have sorted more.

[Faker]

Well now I feel like I have to...

[skitter30]

Tbh i don't think i'm going to make much more progress on reads, i'm kinda fine with starting to put people in minigames

[Faker]

Pedit i very distinctly remember having an argument with you abt borkscum that you refused to believe soooo

SCHEDULE A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT IMMEDIATELY

IMMEDIATELY

[Chara]

does anyone...

want

to go to Gate?

[Isis]

What are my strengths here, exactly? You sure you're not just taking my word for it?

to my mind anyway you'd rather hardpush someone over trying to make yourself look like the towniest town because there's the possibility people get paranoid and don't trust you and then you're hosed

I don't think this is true. I don't really excel at forcing through specific votes, especially lategame: Town players as individuals are too random. There's a reason I forced through Todoroki quickly in D&C. I'm much better at steering a collective, and I'm very good at becoming a universal townread. In that respect, Keep is very well-suited for my scumplay.

The drawbacks of Keep are twofold: 1) Players who know me, like those in this table, can simply make me the voter, and

then

I'm hosed and 2) I flip first most of the time, when I'm better utilized as an excellent clean up hitter with the potential to solo carry the longer the game goes and the more comfortable I get.

I used to prefer flipping first back in my EM days, and haven't gotten a chance to really show off some of that style on MS, but this has been a stylistic adaptation. I didn't have to put a lot of faith in my partners for them to be able to survive 5 minutes if I handed them the game on a silver platter, but that's not true on MS. Almost all of my games are me ultra-town solocarrying.

This raises the same question I asked absinthe about why people are having simultaneous paranoia about being townread and having to vote in keep?
I think you should go to keep and within your own selfmeta if you're town you win there and if you're scum you win there.

[Faker]

I did

originally

because being clear sounds fun+is fitting for the Prism Invitational but times change

[Isis]

does anyone...

want

to go to Gate?

I do now that it sounds very available since 99.9 repeating percent of my interest is with who I go with

[Isis]

Bring back old Prism I miss her

[Chara]

Prism come with Isis and i to the Gate

[Faker]

Define old Prism, you want me to play more Replica-esque?

[absinthe]

I realize that you might not have known demona went to the wall, but I’m curious about your thoughts there. I’m on record as having a town read on demona. It’s the only read I’ve unequivocally stated. I’ve mentioned a suspicion of you. Now I know my reads can change quite a lot, especially overnight, but your thought there that you’d be the decider doesn’t line up with the thoughts I’ve given.

I'm not sure exactly why absinthe didn't clarify this, and focused more on the reads portion, but the way I interpreted the original post was that she was saying that she would be the decider due to being the consensus scumread among the Keep players (scummiest person decides is the standard Keep play). Which I think does line up with what you're saying here.

It feels meaningful, somehow, that absinthe focused on analyzing your reads portion of this rather than clearing up what looks to me like a misunderstanding. But maybe I'm the one misunderstanding something here?

I'm pretty sure I already expressed this thought well before Tempest's post, so that doesn't appear to be what needs clarification.

How do you interpret her saying:

1) she townreads demona
2) she mentioned a suspicion of you
2) therefore, you being the decider doesn't line up with the thoughts she's given

That seems to directly imply that, regardless of her reads and whether she stated them earlier or not, she thinks that her suspicion of you is incompatible with you being the decider, no?

I'm so lost, aren't suspicious people compatible with being deciders

i think coral/tempest were saying

‘why wouldn’t tempest simply be the decider by voting tempest’s townread, demona’

and the answer to that from a town!absinthe perspective would simply be that tempest was not town and therefore would not actually decide that, at which point i would think absinthe would realize tempest was not town and tada!

but from a town!tempest perspective it makes sense for tempest to simply vote for me and win the keep

Scum-tempest holding off voting town-you is 100%. But, I think town-tempest waffling a while once the decision looms is also a possibility. Right or wrong, in a town-tempest situation, I very well might have put a vote down first.

[Isis]

Define old Prism, you want me to play more Replica-esque?

I want you to come with Chara and I to the gate

[Faker]

I am hoping to get more analytical at some point, but now that I put most of my machinery into law it's nice to take a break esp. with the two week finals sprint. How my brain works is very similar in both contexts. I'm excited to see how the last semester changes my deepdives, if it does.

[Chara]

let's take a break and have a friendship party in the Gate and eat gumdrops and dance with sugarplum fairies.

[Faker]

Mmmmm we'll see how I feel about it in the morning but I do want to play with cat

[Isis]

It is hard to catch all the way up when my girlfriend keeps texting me and she is more important srynotsry I will keep trudging

[Isis]

let's take a break and have a friendship party in the Gate and eat gumdrops and dance with sugarplum fairies.

I'm a fairy who is the other fairy

[Faker]

New idea we quarantine all of the SO-having normies in one place

[skitter30]

Pedit i very distinctly remember having an argument with you abt borkscum that you refused to believe soooo

SCHEDULE A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT IMMEDIATELY

IMMEDIATELY

I actually just went back and both of these things happened at different parts of the game lol

My memory of 2181 is apparently day2+, i had completely burned day1 out of my memory

And i did have an argument abt borkscum that u were quite skeptical abt lol

[skitter30]

New idea we quarantine all of the SO-having normies in one place

It's amazing how much of a normie i am >.>