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Post Post #2950 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:50 am

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In post 2936, Firebringer wrote:if whatever i do is going to make me possible scum.
I am not helping the town.

Gonna vote my scumreads. not help any of u solve. Might not even jailkeep and save shots.
Taking my ball and going home to play by myself.
Anti town fire is here.
:? :shifty:
If u dont elim me today, you are Minecrafters
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Post Post #2951 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:53 am

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In post 2943, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2942, MathBlade wrote:Dude like yes. If you were in my shoes you’d be sus of the JK claim too man.
im literally in ur shoes on the other side.


VOTE: Skip

I want to see what scum do tonight.
Imagine if someone chooses the username "Skip" or "End Day" or "No Elimination"...

Anyways, imo this breakdown feels town-- but I'm pretty sure fire is town on mechanics anyways.
If u dont elim me today, you are Minecrafters
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Post Post #2952 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:02 am

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I don't think scum would have this kind of conniption fit.
If u dont elim me today, you are Minecrafters
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Post Post #2953 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 1:41 am

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vote count 4.04

with 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 4 ends in (expired on 2022-12-28 17:30:00).


yeet
Herta [3]:
skitter30, KittyTacky, Val89
Firebringer [2]:
Freedom, MathBlade
Val89 [1]:
innocentvillager

no yeet [1]:
Firebringer

not voting [3]:
Ydrasse, Herta,
Toto


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Post Post #2954 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:33 am

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In post 2952, KittyTacky wrote:I don't think scum would have this kind of conniption fit.
Scum fire has before. Kinda numb to it. He does it as both alignments.
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Post Post #2955 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:51 am

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FIREBRINGER
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Post Post #2956 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:07 am

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TOTO
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Post Post #2957 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:13 am

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who bussed pooky?
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Post Post #2958 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:23 am

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Herta most likely imo, then fire
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Post Post #2959 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:24 am

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In post 2935, innocentvillager wrote:are we like 98%+ sure on Kt being town by mech? The all mafia ninja public info shit makes zero sense without there being a real town watcher right? Also scum wouldn’t claim a major non gated role like that I assume
I think he's town on play but tbh i'm getting wary of clearing anyone based on mech at this point
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Post Post #2960 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:25 am

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I think we should focus reading people in dayplay instead of mech at this point l, because something doesn't add up and with the information we have i don't thibj it's fully possible to solve the mech puzzle
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Post Post #2961 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:35 am

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good idea, can you talk to IV and reach consensus on Herta, you have very different opinions.
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Post Post #2962 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:26 pm

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Skitter can you tell me more about your recent hertz thoughts? I did a ctrl f in ur iso and haven’t really seen anything about him in the latter half of ur iso
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Post Post #2963 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 2:39 pm

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Facts usually more important.

This is an elaborate prod dodge brought to you by the holidays!

Not sure when I will be able to post but I will when I can
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Post Post #2964 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:28 pm

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not feeling mafia today will be around tmrw
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Post Post #2965 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:12 pm

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I briefly isod ur large normal game with some others and yea I guess ur vibe seems similar ish here so that sort of negates some of the issues I had with u I guess?
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Post Post #2966 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:14 pm

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I didn’t read carefully enough to understand your history with claiming tho

Like do you see how I could think that ur claim here is kinda underwhelming cuz not self resolving at all but you used it as an excuse to dodge the elim for 3 days - seems like there’s plenty of at least level 0 scum motivation to do that? What do u think
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Post Post #2967 (ISO) » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:17 pm

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I'm on vacation until New Years.
Though, I'm unsure what to make of Firebringer's breakdown.
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Post Post #2968 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:48 am

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I don't see how no lim gets us anywhere. We aren't getting a clear inno nor guilty with the PRs we have, particularly where the possibility of a deliberate no kill is a consideration, and will have to be going forward, and I don't really think there is a real possibly of a scum kill narrowing the PoE any following the mass claim.

As for Firebringers 'breakdown'? Just no. We've already had this once this game, and that was more than enough for me. I've rewritten what I wanted to say here several times, but have decided I am just going to say nothing further until the game is over than to make one direct appeal here, and hope you realise yourself why.
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Post Post #2969 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:29 am

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framing this as a breakdown is a bit much.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2970 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:38 am

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Firebringer, who do you think is scum on day play?
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Post Post #2971 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:46 am

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the more time i actually spend away from this game, skitter.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2972 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:50 am

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skitters analysis seems lacking here compared to her town games.
i have hard time believing she would be as focused on herta in this game after pooky flip tbh.
It doesn't seem like she is interested in pooky associations. maybe a skitter here thinks she can't associate pooky with scumteam
But it seems like a vanity read on herta this game and im still for life of me trying to piece together why she is tunneled.

Also skitter lacks her natural curiousness she has as town.
i remember when i played against her as scum and fake scumread her, all she did in that game was constantly ask me questions to try to understand the scumread. I had to delay and give her fake reasons as long as i could but she was constantly searching an understanding for my or other reads.

Compare that to this. She doesn't seem like she is curious to understand a persons reads, she just states her opinions and continues hammers them in.

Granted this game and my games with skitter are like a year to 2 old now. But this feels a very diff skitter.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2973 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:52 am

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my gut says skitter had a good reaction to finding out she was jailkeep with no kill
but now its telling me she was planning on seeing if this was going to be a 1v1 scenario between us and laying the groundwork to win one.

idk.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2974 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:01 am

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Thank you. I appreciate it.

I don't disagree with your analysis on skitter; but the idea that an ascetic skitter gets sent to do the kills seems to have merit to me. I find myself agreeing that skitter ought to be off the table until we know the deal with Ydra. Limming in the non-skitter VTs and reducing the PoE is probably the best way forward here - I just don't see what we get out of a no-lim.

Merry Christmas all.

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