i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

[Gamma Emerald]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

[Ythan]

I was already warned by the mod. All grandstanding can go through the mod.

It's not grandstanding please try to be less dismissive.

[Titus]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

how fucking easy is it to come and try to discredit the votes against you by calling them scummy

but like imaginality didn't even commit to who was scummy and who was just wrong

LAZY

Then ask.

[Save The Dragons]

you think me shoving my boot up his ass with my vote is not asking?

[Titus]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

I'm saying StD is 100% wrong and trying. So I'm going to show him he's wrong and get him pointed in the right direction, even if I am not 100% sure where it is myself.

[Frogsterking]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

This is really forced distancing. There is no reason to believe there is any existing tension between Gamma and Titus.

[Titus]

you think me shoving my boot up his ass with my vote is not asking?

No. You're assuming a bad motive and you've been buddied up by scum. I know this for a fact. Any other read I can discuss. Imaginality is town busy with the holidays. Period.

[Save The Dragons]

titus you've given no reason to suggest imaginality is not scummy

[Titus]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

This is really forced distancing. There is no reason to believe there is any existing tension between Gamma and Titus.

Still waiting for the tone, instead you call me scum. Sign seal deliver.

[Frogsterking]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

I'm saying StD is 100% wrong and trying. So I'm going to show him he's wrong and get him pointed in the right direction, even if I am not 100% sure where it is myself.

This is just arguing for the sake of arguing because Gamma and Titus "don't want to look associated" despite currently coordinating their votes together to keep my wagon on life support.

[Gamma Emerald]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

I'm saying StD is 100% wrong and trying. So I'm going to show him he's wrong and get him pointed in the right direction, even if I am not 100% sure where it is myself.

Why do you townread imaginality so hard? I feel like he’s suspicious but I don’t vibe with how the wagon on him formed.

[Titus]

titus you've given no reason to suggest imaginality is not scummy

I'd refute reasons but I don't get your tone read and I seen no other reasons.

I could give another reason but I'd rather hold it.

I will negotiate on any other read but not imaginality.

[Titus]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

I'm saying StD is 100% wrong and trying. So I'm going to show him he's wrong and get him pointed in the right direction, even if I am not 100% sure where it is myself.

Why do you townread imaginality so hard? I feel like he’s suspicious but I don’t vibe with how the wagon on him formed.

Take an idea. How could I?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hmm. I get the message.

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Elements

[Titus]

StD vote Frogster with me? I have a strong tonal read there. I get if you don't but if so please tell me why.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Elements

Why this?

[Frogsterking]

So what do you feel she's not responding to?

It’s not quite like that
I suggest you ISO her

Isn't your whole point that CSF is selectively responding though? How would reading her ISO help?

Also, Frogsterking failed my test. Frogsterking gets a certain level of annoyed when I'm cagey as town and instead, he's looking to discredit.

1) you outted a lot more reads than usual in 379 so you haven't really been cagey

2) in 389 I asked you to explain your reads almost immediately after I see your posts

3) in 357 an authority figure issues a general warning so it makes sense I would be keeping my anger in check

4) I'm not sure what would cause you to terminate your reaction test now. You already had my attention in 389, why not stall and see what I do?

You are really being the opposite of cagey both by having multiple scum reads in 379 and revealing your plans now.

Not what I'm looking for tonally. Sorry.

Reads list supposing imaginality is town.

Welp that was faster than I thought

This is just as good as ignoring 396 entirely because you aren't addressing anything I said in any meaningful way. You obviously have time to write a meaningful response because you're still active in the thread executing your shitty "distancing" with Gamma and writing more non-answers to Dragons. I don't know what "tone" you're pretending to look for right now because it's pretty obvious I think your answers are useless.

[Frogsterking]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

I'm saying StD is 100% wrong and trying. So I'm going to show him he's wrong and get him pointed in the right direction, even if I am not 100% sure where it is myself.

Why do you townread imaginality so hard? I feel like he’s suspicious but I don’t vibe with how the wagon on him formed.

Take an idea. How could I?

Hmm. I get the message.

Nice forced, fake-looking conclusion to a forced, fake-looking argument which went absolutely nowhere.

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: elements

[Save The Dragons]

titus you've given no arguments all game you're gonna have to do better than that if you want me to follow you

i like frogster for trying i feel like scum frogster wouldn't be trying as hard

could he be scum? maybe. is he my d1 pick for scum? nope

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Elements

Why this?

not sure tbh just want to put pressure there, i just remember Elements had a post that pinged me

[Frogsterking]

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

I'm saying StD is 100% wrong and trying. So I'm going to show him he's wrong and get him pointed in the right direction, even if I am not 100% sure where it is myself.

Why do you townread imaginality so hard? I feel like he’s suspicious but I don’t vibe with how the wagon on him formed.

Take an idea. How could I?

Hmm. I get the message.

Nice forced, fake-looking conclusion to a forced, fake-looking argument which went absolutely nowhere.

Are you both going to pretend like I didn't read your SvS interaction like the back of my hand?

[HighPrincessErinys]

The votes on me are lazy and/or scummy (likely a mix). I can understand why, "imaginality mixed up two players and is a bit noncommital so far" is nice easy justification for a vote so it's tempting for scum who don't have to lie to join the wagon. Helps that I'm low activity so not likely to push back as noisily as some players would. It's a wagon scum can hope might lead to a mislim that looks understandable and if it doesn't they don't look bad for being on it and pressuring me to play more.

For this reason I definitely think there are scum voting me.

i feel like most of the votes have nothing to do with this

Yeah, gotta concur here. Also don't really think there's anything super important about Ranger not having 3 people in one level of scumread like imaginality (and to a lesser extent, Titus) seems to think.

Define lazily. I'm going to push you because you're straight up wrong. I'm going to figure out your issue StD and set you correctly.

tf are you saying here

I'm saying StD is 100% wrong and trying. So I'm going to show him he's wrong and get him pointed in the right direction, even if I am not 100% sure where it is myself.

you think me shoving my boot up his ass with my vote is not asking?

No. You're assuming a bad motive and you've been buddied up by scum. I know this for a fact. Any other read I can discuss. Imaginality is town busy with the holidays. Period.

titus you've given no reason to suggest imaginality is not scummy

I'd refute reasons but I don't get your tone read and I seen no other reasons.

I could give another reason but I'd rather hold it.

I will negotiate on any other read but not imaginality.

This is a lot of

vehement

defense that Titus refuses to back up with reasoning or evidence. Huge filibuster vibes.

Hmm. I get the message.

And this is just. Weird.

This entire thing just reeks of weird. Titus's defense of imaginality, Titus going "I want to steer StD in the right direction but I don't actually know the right direction myself", etc. Just fuckin'

strange

.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Frog meta stuff aside, this one is wondering where tapiocaphobe and Vaxkiller are, and where Ranger went.

I like this

y?

Good breadth of interest

Calling out people who haven't posted in the game yet is +scum in my experience. It looks like contributing while doing nothing to advance conversation. Unless it is explicitly calling them scum for lurking, which I don't think it is doing.

The votes on me are lazy and/or scummy (likely a mix).

I can understand why, "imaginality mixed up two players and is a bit noncommital so far" is nice easy justification for a vote so it's tempting for scum who don't have to lie to join the wagon.

Helps that I'm low activity so not likely to push back as noisily as some players would. It's a wagon scum can hope might lead to a mislim that looks understandable and if it doesn't they don't look bad for being on it and pressuring me to play more.

I did this. It looks like you wanted to encourage a 1v1 between Frogs & Gamma and found the flimsiest reasons to do so - not even closely reading your scumread's posts & trying to piggyback off of my "scumread" on them when in fact I had the opposite read.

My vote has three main points to it

1) i like a lot of the people on the wagon, so i looked into imaginality. I dont like how they're drawing attention to the 1v1. I've mentioned the concept of "acceptable wagons" in past games. It's been a great scumtell for me when someone tries to magnify two people because it provides great protection to scum.
2) i still like frogster despite my concern about them. I don't like the wagon on them and don't think it's good for the game.
3) vanitying gamma just seemed shit. She should be easy to resolve and isnt going anywhere

I vibe a lot with this post