i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

[Elements]

224 wasn't a George post
And it's an AWOL slot over the Christmas period that has said they feel ill so I don't think lack of posts is ai in any way

[Frogsterking]

224 wasn't a George post
And it's an AWOL slot over the Christmas period that has said they feel ill so I don't think lack of posts is ai in any way

224 provides the context for why the quoted George post (165) was weird. I think your take on feeling ill and lack of posts is really boring and incomplete, I think it's safe to assume every low activity slot will reveal that they were sick, busy, Christmas etc., the point of the game is to figure out which ones are

also

scum. I think the fact that George said they were ill has no affect on how we can interpret their alignment, and the fact they are a low poster is intrinsically ai for scum. If you have no take on George that's fine, what about Ythan/Owl/furtive?

Activity based sorting

Spoiler:

reference: https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _Detection

Tl;dr

-Scum have lower post count on average than town
-The average post count is skewed upward (there are a minority of scum players who make a lot of posts, while the majority of scum players lurk)
-For example: scum team of Gamma+Ythan+furtive+george+owl+NM. Gamma and Ythan are the minority of high posting scum

within this game

, while the rest are all low posting scum.

AFAIK strategically:
-There are additional, unrelated strategic reasons to vote out low activity slots first. The players who go for "high info lim" early game basically handicap town, because those "high info lim" slots would have continued to scale in value the longer they keep posting and voting, while the "low info lim" will almost always stay "low info lim" the entire game and are better to sacrifice early, because they don't scale. Exceptions are abundant, this is just a principle and I could also be missing something.

[Titus]

Kitten around and McMenno both have less than your four. Any particular reason to TR them?

[Frogsterking]

As a counter example to George, I think Vax and Tapi are total RNG slots not worth voting or discussing. I think George is worth discussing. I think "idk, George is 100% blank

to me

" is a completely valid position. I gave three other slots to consider.

[Frogsterking]

Kitten around and McMenno both have less than your four. Any particular reason to TR them?

Not good ones AFAIK. McMenno felt vaguely townie to me in a way that's objectively worthless as a tell and kitten I didn't even register was in this game. Do you want them on the table, and are there any of the four I listed that you think are bad candidates for D1?

[Gamma Emerald]

I really don't get the owl scumreads, probably one of my stronger townreads atm.

gamma said a "safe game"? do they usually play more risky?

That’s not based on meta

[Frogsterking]

I think your take on feeling ill and lack of posts is really boring and incomplete, I think it's safe to assume every low activity slot will reveal that they were sick, busy, Christmas etc., the point of the game is to figure out which ones are also scum.

I'm sorry, I was too harsh here. I think your take on George is a good point, I just think there are other ways to look at it, Elements. The boredom is my own fault from IRL and has absolutely nothing to do with you.

[Elements]

I don't really understand your reasoning but either way I want more from George

[Elements]

I town read owl

[Elements]

At least I remember saying that I townread owl

[Elements]

I think I've had thoughts on ythan
And I unvoted furtive deliberately at one point

[Frogsterking]

Do you think you Towned one of them incorrectly and/or do you think McMenno and/or kittens are better candidates? I think it's super duper unlikely all 6 of those slots are town. I think it's unlikely 5 of those slots are town.

It seems like you both disagree with gamma's read. Does that impact your reads on her?

What do YOU think of her?

I like this post but the rest of ythan's iso is very meh

I think Ythan's ISO is basic scum or maybe 3rd party and even 62 I specifically thought was AI for scum/3rd party. I looked at their past games and they are capable of much more as town (but also as scum.) I think a D1 Ythan group murder is fantastic for Town.

[Elements]

VOTE: ythan
Yea, I can get on board with that

[Ythan]

-Scum have lower post count on average than town
-The average post count is skewed upward (there are a minority of scum players who make a lot of posts, while the majority of scum players lurk)
-For example: scum team of Gamma+Ythan+furtive+george+owl+NM. Gamma and Ythan are the minority of high posting scum within this game, while the rest are all low posting scum.

This is truly literally idiotic.

[Ythan]

Scum post less, except when they don't, so you see the team is x y and z. Moron.

[Ythan]

their

I know your idiot ass can read though.

[McMenno]

I really don't get the owl scumreads, probably one of my stronger townreads atm.

gamma said a "safe game"? do they usually play more risky?

That’s not based on meta

oh okay I thought it was since you said you were abandoning the "non-meta" thing

furtiveglance seems I don't know... I'm kind of lukewarm on tha catchup

George meh I think?

Ythan I believe is town, she seems very angry but not in the scum caught for the wrong reasons way... more in the town annoyed way I think

[Elements]

-Scum have lower post count on average than town
-The average post count is skewed upward (there are a minority of scum players who make a lot of posts, while the majority of scum players lurk)
-For example: scum team of Gamma+Ythan+furtive+george+owl+NM. Gamma and Ythan are the minority of high posting scum within this game, while the rest are all low posting scum.

This is truly literally idiotic.

My vote on you is nothing to do with anything frog has said

[Elements]

Ythan I believe is town, she seems very angry but not in the scum caught for the wrong reasons way... more in the town annoyed way I think

But it's also the only thing she's done

[Ythan]

-Scum have lower post count on average than town
-The average post count is skewed upward (there are a minority of scum players who make a lot of posts, while the majority of scum players lurk)
-For example: scum team of Gamma+Ythan+furtive+george+owl+NM. Gamma and Ythan are the minority of high posting scum within this game, while the rest are all low posting scum.

This is truly literally idiotic.

My vote on you is nothing to do with anything frog has said

benevolent finger guns

[Elements]

Right back at ya

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: ythan

[Enchant]

Frogster appeal on activity for some reason make him trustworthy

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: Ythan

I lean the opposite way that McMenno does, I feel like Ythan zeroed in on something thaat wasnt frog's central point. I think frog is using the activity stuff in order to confirm what he already thinks, as opposed to using it to make the reads in the first place.

Granted though that it's a stretch to say "Scum post a lot except when they don't" to confirm both scum that post a lot and don't post a lot LMFAO. Plus I skimmed and Frog and Ythan have been on each other's casesa ll game. I'm talking myself out of this

Spoiler: examples

Here's the scum post from a previous game which Ythan's 62 pinged me for:

viewtopic.php?p=13548554#p13548554

Huh?? Are you talking about the capitalization?

Excuse me

I feel like the capitalization helped me to draw the connection and the underlying pattern is shade posted in the format of a question with feigned conviction.

Oh.

VOTE: Frogsterking

I kind of skimmed the last few paegs I don't think frogsterking is looking that great here

VOTE: frogsterking

I agree with this. Not much else to go on here but the weird claim but whatever for right now.

Friend you are blinded by your love of frogs.

Yeah enjoy rope lol.

In case anyone is getting burned out trying to read the thread just skip Gamma's posts, they're all intentionally full of shit to waste your time.

I think you might be projecting here.

Really fake and unnatural sorting.

Keep crying

And that's not even half of it

On one hand it makes more sense now that Ythan isn't really directly engaging with Frog, we're kind of past that. On the other it is really hard to find content that isn't Ythan reacting to Frog saying something she finds ridiculous. Which could potentially be an easy way to interact with the game as scum, or potentially she's tunnelled

this interaction with furtive is one of the only interactions that dont involve frog

Spoiler:

@furtive

what do you make of the current gamestate?

Quite chaotic. This is the largest game I've played in (from the start) and I think the usually underrated art of sheeping will be very important, otherwise Mafia could really run riot.

With this in mind,

VOTE: imaginality

That looks like a lot of words to justify a non committal vote.

It goes on longer but essentially Ythan interpreted 328 as a lot of words meaning nothing, whereas furtive argued that it did mean something, it meant that he was sheeping a townread. no opinion

I don't like Ythan's reaction to being wagoned by ele, I'll leave my vote

[Gamma Emerald]

Frogster appeal on activity for some reason make him trustworthy

Why