New Year Dance Party [afterparty]

[Datisi]

vote count 2.01

with 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. the second dance ends in (expired on 2023-01-17 18:45:00).

yeet

Save The Dragons & Gimli [0]:

fireisredsir & Ydrasse [0]:

Meuh & Shirou [1]:

Save The Dragons

UNOwen & VP Baltar [2]:

Ydrasse, midwaybear

midwaybear & Enchant [0]:

not voting [7]:

Meuh, Shirou, UNOwen, VP Baltar, Enchant, Gimli, fireisredsir

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[fireisredsir]

idk on scum midway it just seems wild to me to pair with someone who at the time of pairing has basically left the thread and given up on the game

and is also known for impulsive hammering and also gets yeeted a lot

like yea you get some cred for killing a scum cakez but it's a pretty unstable position and you are tying yourself to enchant who almost never endgames and might just leave

ehhh i guess though that the alternative would be pairing s/s which... also probably never endgames. so hmm

wrt the enchant meta
has midway ever played a game with enchant to know that info because i think he was gone for like a year?

i assume he'd be aware enough of it from scum pt if he were scum but idk ig maybe nobody told him? it still seems like a thing where they'd be trying to strategize about how to deal with this situation

[Enchant]

idk on scum midway it just seems wild to me to pair with someone who at the time of pairing has basically left the thread and given up on the game

and is also known for impulsive hammering and also gets yeeted a lot

like yea you get some cred for killing a scum cakez but it's a pretty unstable position and you are tying yourself to enchant who almost never endgames and might just leave

ehhh i guess though that the alternative would be pairing s/s which... also probably never endgames. so hmm

wrt the enchant meta
has midway ever played a game with enchant to know that info because i think he was gone for like a year?

i assume he'd be aware enough of it from scum pt if he were scum but idk ig maybe nobody told him? it still seems like a thing where they'd be trying to strategize about how to deal with this situation

top 10 pranks from scummates

[midwaybear]

wrt the enchant meta
has midway ever played a game with enchant to know that info because i think he was gone for like a year?

i was aware of enchant as a player before this game
and even if i didn't, my buddies would know

pedit: what fire sadi

[fireisredsir]

wouldn't it be funny tho if it was midway/shirou and like the whole game was centered around getting cred for killing cakez

[Ydrasse]

idk on scum midway it just seems wild to me to pair with someone who at the time of pairing has basically left the thread and given up on the game

and is also known for impulsive hammering and also gets yeeted a lot

like yea you get some cred for killing a scum cakez but it's a pretty unstable position and you are tying yourself to enchant who almost never endgames and might just leave

ehhh i guess though that the alternative would be pairing s/s which... also probably never endgames. so hmm

wrt the enchant meta
has midway ever played a game with enchant to know that info because i think he was gone for like a year?

i assume he'd be aware enough of it from scum pt if he were scum but idk ig maybe nobody told him? it still seems like a thing where they'd be trying to strategize about how to deal with this situation

top 10 pranks from scummates

You are my favorite poster

[Gimli]

Meuh, who are you thinking about dancing with? can I throw my hat in the ring?

I was thinking either VPB or Shirou atp.
I want someone who'll talk plenty because I think I'd be easy for anyone to solve with enough posts, and I could do the same for my partner. and then with the spammy PT we could just solve the game which sounds nice, or I could leave if they get scummy which sounds equally nice heehee
You actually fit the bill quite nicely too, I think? Because of your IC status I haven't thought of you as a partner because I think you should be the one to make the choice, but I do like the idea of us as a pair. We could just solve the game and I can skip the trying to solve you part which could be nice

Smells town in this

[VP Baltar]

idk on scum midway it just seems wild to me to pair with someone who at the time of pairing has basically left the thread and given up on the game

and is also known for impulsive hammering and also gets yeeted a lot

like yea you get some cred for killing a scum cakez but it's a pretty unstable position and you are tying yourself to enchant who almost never endgames and might just leave

ehhh i guess though that the alternative would be pairing s/s which... also probably never endgames. so hmm

Yeah, but in a midway/cakez scum world where Ari saying "we need to bus," I think picking a disillusioned enchant isn't a terrible play. It's risky, but so is a S/S pairing with cakez, who IDK has ever endgamed as scum that I've seen.

[Save The Dragons]

Meuh, who are you thinking about dancing with? can I throw my hat in the ring?

I was thinking either VPB or Shirou atp.
I want someone who'll talk plenty because I think I'd be easy for anyone to solve with enough posts, and I could do the same for my partner. and then with the spammy PT we could just solve the game which sounds nice, or I could leave if they get scummy which sounds equally nice heehee
You actually fit the bill quite nicely too, I think? Because of your IC status I haven't thought of you as a partner because I think you should be the one to make the choice, but I do like the idea of us as a pair. We could just solve the game and I can skip the trying to solve you part which could be nice

Smells town in this

nah

[fireisredsir]

idk on scum midway it just seems wild to me to pair with someone who at the time of pairing has basically left the thread and given up on the game

and is also known for impulsive hammering and also gets yeeted a lot

like yea you get some cred for killing a scum cakez but it's a pretty unstable position and you are tying yourself to enchant who almost never endgames and might just leave

ehhh i guess though that the alternative would be pairing s/s which... also probably never endgames. so hmm

Yeah, but in a midway/cakez scum world where Ari saying "we need to bus," I think picking a disillusioned enchant isn't a terrible play. It's risky, but so is a S/S pairing with cakez, who IDK has ever endgamed as scum that I've seen.

yes that was my end paragraph conclusion

[VP Baltar]

Besides repeatedly calling for a meuh towncase, ydra, what did you do there though? Did you vote meuh yesterday?

no because quite frankly i didn’t want to deal with shirou turning all of ... his play around on me when i already hated what was happening in thread

Why would Shirou attack you for pushing meuh? Just because it would have been a counter to the maria wagon?

[Gimli]

Ok then @dragons
All her work feels like scum busywork but her energy is towny? Which might mean she is scum. You have experience with meuh, dragons?

[Ydrasse]

Besides repeatedly calling for a meuh towncase, ydra, what did you do there though? Did you vote meuh yesterday?

no because quite frankly i didn’t want to deal with shirou turning all of ... his play around on me when i already hated what was happening in thread

Why would Shirou attack you for pushing meuh? Just because it would have been a counter to the maria wagon?

p much
i already felt at a certain point that i was being punished for not being on the wagon/agreeing with it
like shirous scumread was the result of me coming to a different conclusion than him but i could only reach it because i was scum

[Save The Dragons]

no experience with meuh

[Ydrasse]

which is like
very much not what i sign up to play for

i already have problems with people svumresding me and it eats up all of my brain power but for it to be something that felt almost hostile or malicious for just not agreeing is something i never want to deal with

[Ydrasse]

that’s as much as i want to talk about this point though i feel gross admitting to it but for the sake of explanation feel there’s not way around it

[VP Baltar]

different topic then: ydra, what's your read on gimli/std pair?

[VP Baltar]

Also, why would you plan on leaving the dance if you have a strong town read on fire?

[fireisredsir]

Ok then @dragons
All her work feels like scum busywork but her energy is towny? Which might mean she is scum. You have experience with meuh, dragons?

i have experience with meuh and i think she's p good at replicating energy but is somewhat busy-work-y as scum

i don't think she's really had a scum performance she's super proud of yet but i think she's also capable of more than she's shown

but i also used similar arguments to this to misyeet her when she was town so idk

the thing i keep holding onto is feeling like she seemed uninformed at times

[Enchant]

Also, why would you plan on leaving the dance if you have a strong town read on fire?

If someone leaves you, it breaks your heart.

So if you leave first, you break their heart first.

[VP Baltar]

Also, why would you plan on leaving the dance if you have a strong town read on fire?

If someone leaves you, it breaks your heart.

So if you leave first, you break their heart first.

when do you plan to hurt midway?

[Ydrasse]

different topic then: ydra, what's your read on gimli/std pair?

answering both here

i think they’re a town town pair

i don’t have the strongest townread on fire, i think shirou/gimli/midway are a lot townier
and i think it’s easier to getting to a townread elsewhere to endgame

[Enchant]

Also, why would you plan on leaving the dance if you have a strong town read on fire?

If someone leaves you, it breaks your heart.

So if you leave first, you break their heart first.

when do you plan to hurt midway?

I had plan to kill midway and then kill everyone else, but i realised some flaws in it

[midwaybear]

I think it's ydra and midway.

Yes and we 8-9 hammered our buddy ari with little progression cuz why not.
And before you say it's for the cred, idt either of us has mentioned it before this point so nah.
Meanwhile, you're hemming and hawing about ari and how she townreads norwee in the pages before she gets flipped.

ok, let's get a flip then today I guess. Intent to hammer. I'll give you a couple hours for any final words or for Ari to deliver on a persuasive townread of Norwee.

I would be pretty surprised if Nor was actually mafia and I guess the egg would be on my face but I just don't think he is - so many things he does feels counterproductive to his win condition and most of the points against him are not definitive - I know I might be biased but I just don't feel that I'm wrong here.

Can I get a couple examples of what you think is counterproductive to a scum win con? Doesn't need to be quotes and stuff. bullets are fine.

Maria - You going to post this reply post, or...???

another point that I thought was counterproductive to his win con was when he started talking about how he suspected me for being so trusting of him at a time when lots of other people were suspicious of me for other reasons.

This feels like really counterproductive to post if he actually wants us to survive and there's really no reason for him to post that because it only signal amps suspicion on his dance partner.

This feels like a better point than the "scum don't fight IC point"

another point that I thought was counterproductive to his win con was when he started talking about how he suspected me for being so trusting of him at a time when lots of other people were suspicious of me for other reasons.

This feels like really counterproductive to post if he actually wants us to survive and there's really no reason for him to post that because it only signal amps suspicion on his dance partner.

This feels like a better point than the "scum don't fight IC point"

I do think Ari has shown more survivalism this game than norwee, to be fair.

LOL right after I vote ari and kill pressure becomes evident again

[Ydrasse]

i’m often a selfish player but it’s a good of the collective sort of thing to let someone else win
i just hate being misunderstood despite my intentions