New Year Dance Party [afterparty]

[Enchant]

wow i didn't get pedit from midway post, we posted at same milisecond, locktown

[UNOwen]

i don't, i was saying "hm" at that summary

idk if even "sort of trusting" is accurate. more of an agreement that we can try to townhunt for now to find a pair that is townier than us bc we both think that's probably easier than finding each other as town

i already told her i was gonna leave but i hoped that i was wrong and that we can win before then

I feel like you telling Ydrasse that you were going to leave would inform a lot of how she would approach the game as scum (i.e. "let's just try and find a more town pair" idea, did she push that independently or was it after you suggested that you didn't trust her to endgame?) Or was it your idea?

[Save The Dragons]

help im getting paranoid of midway

[midwaybear]

wow i didn't get pedit from midway post, we posted at same milisecond, locktown

yuh

[Enchant]

huy

[VP Baltar]

different topic then: ydra, what's your read on gimli/std pair?

answering both here

i think they’re a town town pair

i don’t have the strongest townread on fire, i think shirou/gimli/midway are a lot townier
and i think it’s easier to getting to a townread elsewhere to endgame

When did you start townreading STD/gimli?

I guess I'm misunderstanding on fire then. You said the Ari/fire fight looks unaligned, so that seems like a reason to strong town read there. Maybe I'm projecting because I actually agree with that assessment.

[Gimli]

I think it's ydra and midway.

Yes and we 8-9 hammered our buddy ari with little progression cuz why not.
And before you say it's for the cred, idt either of us has mentioned it before this point so nah.
Meanwhile, you're hemming and hawing about ari and how she townreads norwee in the pages before she gets flipped.

ok, let's get a flip then today I guess. Intent to hammer. I'll give you a couple hours for any final words or for Ari to deliver on a persuasive townread of Norwee.

I would be pretty surprised if Nor was actually mafia and I guess the egg would be on my face but I just don't think he is - so many things he does feels counterproductive to his win condition and most of the points against him are not definitive - I know I might be biased but I just don't feel that I'm wrong here.

Can I get a couple examples of what you think is counterproductive to a scum win con? Doesn't need to be quotes and stuff. bullets are fine.

Maria - You going to post this reply post, or...???

another point that I thought was counterproductive to his win con was when he started talking about how he suspected me for being so trusting of him at a time when lots of other people were suspicious of me for other reasons.

This feels like really counterproductive to post if he actually wants us to survive and there's really no reason for him to post that because it only signal amps suspicion on his dance partner.

This feels like a better point than the "scum don't fight IC point"

another point that I thought was counterproductive to his win con was when he started talking about how he suspected me for being so trusting of him at a time when lots of other people were suspicious of me for other reasons.

This feels like really counterproductive to post if he actually wants us to survive and there's really no reason for him to post that because it only signal amps suspicion on his dance partner.

This feels like a better point than the "scum don't fight IC point"

I do think Ari has shown more survivalism this game than norwee, to be fair.

LOL right after I vote ari and kill pressure becomes evident again

midway still town imo

[fireisredsir]

i don't, i was saying "hm" at that summary

idk if even "sort of trusting" is accurate. more of an agreement that we can try to townhunt for now to find a pair that is townier than us bc we both think that's probably easier than finding each other as town

i already told her i was gonna leave but i hoped that i was wrong and that we can win before then

I feel like you telling Ydrasse that you were going to leave would inform a lot of how she would approach the game as scum (i.e. "let's just try and find a more town pair" idea, did she push that independently or was it after you suggested that you didn't trust her to endgame?) Or was it your idea?

yes i was aware of that while telling her and also told her i was aware of that

we kinda both brought it up. i was the first one to explicitly say that i thought it would be easier to find another town pair than be confident on her, but she was the one who first brought up the subject of leaving and not being the final pair

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: norwee/ari cuz i don't want fire/ydra flipped nor maria/furtive yet
vpb clearly isn't going through rn
one vote to lim

I like I how midway is trying to take credit for the ari flip when this was his vote lol.

[Save The Dragons]

midway posturing with "look at all my wagon positions" just has a bad tone to it

[Ydrasse]

different topic then: ydra, what's your read on gimli/std pair?

answering both here

i think they’re a town town pair

i don’t have the strongest townread on fire, i think shirou/gimli/midway are a lot townier
and i think it’s easier to getting to a townread elsewhere to endgame

When did you start townreading STD/gimli?

I guess I'm misunderstanding on fire then. You said the Ari/fire fight looks unaligned, so that seems like a reason to strong town read there. Maybe I'm projecting because I actually agree with that assessment.

after gimli repped in i was like :/ because it felt like the sort of pointless catchupy slog scum does but when he hit his stride i felt like his vibes were really good and solvey
like it felt like constant in thread presence spewing out thoughts
this isn’t based in a particular read but i get the sense gimli is reevaluating the thread a lot
granted this could be like scum always recalculating but Vibes

std is just from the past hour or so where i’ve had a like a conscious reason (i briefly questioned if he was wking for me with the one meta read but i think calling on a game a year ago to use as a reason to townread someone is pretty flimsy as scum, also i kind of don’t think he says some of the things he does this game as wolf
also i correctly scumread him in a game i played on an alt a long while ago where he felt a lot more like, having stances for the sake of them and doubling down that he doesn’t have here)

[Enchant]

i feel spineless, let's sheep MariaR and kill VP and then me

[Enchant]

wait

[Gimli]

i feel spineless, let's sheep MariaR and kill VP and then me

let's sheep maria and kill VP. then, we'll talk.

[Gimli]

VOTE: baltar

[fireisredsir]

basically ydra asked if i would be mad if she left, and also if i wanted to try to be the last pair remaining

and then i said that i wanted to find a better final town pair than us and be firm on leaving so that she'd have to play around that if she's scum lol

and then from there we mostly agreed on direction and where we needed to find town and why, and then we proceeded to not actually solve much of anything overnight lmao

the initial question from her wasn't really implying a stance on being the final pair or not so it is possible that she adjusted based on my answer but it's also believable that she was implying the same thing all along

[Enchant]

VOTE: Baltar

Yeah i am cool with it

[VP Baltar]

id consider voting gimli the slot hasn’t impressed on rep in and seemed mired in asking easy questions that were answered in setup post, std isn’t super towny but i’m not like -_- there either. i don’t feel great about it as an alternative tho

That's weird because yesterday you said this about gimli's rep in

[VP Baltar]

I mean maybe when you shifted on him is not clear to me. that was decently along I think? Lemme fact check myself

[Gimli]

I'm vibing with ydra now

[VP Baltar]

eh, that's only like 40 posts into gimli. I can see that.

[Ydrasse]

id consider voting gimli the slot hasn’t impressed on rep in and seemed mired in asking easy questions that were answered in setup post, std isn’t super towny but i’m not like -_- there either. i don’t feel great about it as an alternative tho

That's weird because yesterday you said this about gimli's rep in

i don’t think i explicitly said in thread Wow Gimlis Towny Now that i recall but that was how i felt after he’d been posting for a while

[midwaybear]

VOTE: norwee/ari cuz i don't want fire/ydra flipped nor maria/furtive yet
vpb clearly isn't going through rn
one vote to lim

I like I how midway is trying to take credit for the ari flip when this was his vote lol.

That vote came at a time when people started getting cold feet on whether norwee/ari was actually the day's flip or not. So...
And the point of the post was more about u than me lol

[Ydrasse]

fatal flaw: thinking reads and not posting them in lieu of restocking in neopets

[fireisredsir]

ydra said in pt at start of last night that gimli had been really towny lately and i agreed cause i had been feeling the same vibes