New Year Dance Party [afterparty]

[Enchant]

IF MIDWAY IS TOWN I HAVE DUTY TO PROTECT THEM AND I WILL AS IT'S MY LIFEGOAL

IF MIDWAY IS SCUM I PROVE SELF AS CLOWN BY PROTECTING THEM AND I WILL AS IT'S MY LIFEGOAL


IT'S WIN WIN FOR ME

[Meuh]

which game

viewtopic.php?f=83&t=89594&hilit=+datisi

oh we played different games in that so that's probably why i don't remember really interacting with you

Yeah I was an IC who did nothing so I don't really fault you

[Shirou]

I feel I probably should wait for Owen/VP flips before trying to re:read the game and wrap my head where my solve started going wrong after concluding scum!Ari (I actually thought Ari was scum before I thought Maria/Fire was, as much as I pushed her as Maria's partner since Ari was the easier elimination so I wanted to shade Maria).

[Save The Dragons]

baltar and owen

[VP Baltar]

VP you said that if MariaR/Furt flipped t/t you were fine with leaving the dance, now you're moving the goalpost to yet another elimination. I don't know, I think you guys flip is necessary here considering how fast this wagon has formed.

I said I would follow your vote in the PT Meuh, but i think if most people want this flip so hard we probably should get it. I do myself believe the chances of scum!VP or scum!Owen have drastically increased with MariaR/Firebringer town flips, so:

VOTE: VPBaltar/Õwen

I can try to sheep you in the next elimination dear Meuh

baltar and owen

Midway/ydra

[VP Baltar]

There's no way you should flip us here unless you're VERY certain we are scum.

[Shirou]

I feel like Ydra complaining about me is kinda town but eh I guess it may be NAI, maybe I'm just feeling guilty

[Shirou]

There's no way you should flip us here unless you're VERY certain we are scum.

I'm pretty sure you said you were okay with being flipped today if Maria/Furt was t/t?

[Save The Dragons]

i know i asked baltar, owen, and you if you'd leave if t/t, not sure if that's what you mean

[UNOwen]

baltar and owen

true love can never truly die

[VP Baltar]

There's no way you should flip us here unless you're VERY certain we are scum.

I'm pretty sure you said you were okay with being flipped today if Maria/Furt was t/t?

I was. I was planning to just leave because this is a distraction and I could be wrong on Owen.

That being said, Owen made a good point that me doing that probably cut off some level of info today. Therefore, it makes more sense for us to be the second lim this cycle since we both say we will leave. It's guaranteed to happen. If we are t/t, using a lim this way gives no info on something that is going to happen regardless.

[VP Baltar]

Best play here is:

Lim some pair in the assumption vp/Owen is town.

One of us leaves for sure post flip.

You get more info and have an actual chance of hitting scum with this play.

[UNOwen]

why midway

I had him as pretty town but there were a couple of problems that I picked up on reviewing ISO and the initial Enchant/Cakez decision still bugs me
If you consider VPB town (which I was assuming for the review) then his content starts to look pretty bad, he has been tunneling non stop

Considering end of choosing, there's no reason for midway to just sit around and do nothing when he gets rejected. He doesn't try to convince Enchant, he doesn't try to get a read on Cakez, he looked like scum who had a plan that just got deflated. Ari then tried to push Enchant into accepting. Cakez initial reaction was overdone and looked a little like theatre. midway does point out the possibility that he's scum who planned to take enchant as an obvtown ticket which is the big point in his favour but could just be WIFOM

Elsewhere he had a mysterious Ari pocket scumread that I can't find much of an explanation for and his position on Firebringer was looked pretty shifty to me in this sequence of posts 2148, 2155 and 2213

(2 of your post links didn't work so I'm reposting this with working links)

faulty links, the shame of any gentleman (ty)

[Shirou]

i know i asked baltar, owen, and you if you'd leave if t/t, not sure if that's what you mean

I remember you asking for it as well, but aside from that I do overall remember him hinting that he was fine with dying if we flipped t/t yesterday, it feels weird for him to come again into today saying the same thing, except I may be misremembering because I was...well, rather focused on getting MariaR eliminated you know...?

p-edit: Well sorry if you guys are t/t but I do disagree. Your pair flip is the most important right now because it either shows us that MariaR was used as a counterwagon to a third scum elimination, or if we haven't touched scum yet since Ari's flip. It's a pretty important "info" to consider while trying to understand yesterday I think.

[Enchant]

Best play here is:

Lim some pair in the assumption vp/Owen is town.

One of us leaves for sure post flip.

You get more info and have an actual chance of hitting scum with this play.

You already lied once

[Save The Dragons]

god this feels like i'm pointing a gun at an old dog trying to put it out of its misery and an abusive father figure is yelling at me to "DO IT! DO IT NOW!" and calling me names and the gun is shaking in my paws

[VP Baltar]

Best play here is:

Lim some pair in the assumption vp/Owen is town.

One of us leaves for sure post flip.

You get more info and have an actual chance of hitting scum with this play.

You already lied once

If I'm lying...Owen still leaves

[Shirou]

Best play here is:

Lim some pair in the assumption vp/Owen is town.

One of us leaves for sure post flip.

You get more info and have an actual chance of hitting scum with this play.

You already lied once

Liar Liar pants on fire~

[VP Baltar]

god this feels like i'm pointing a gun at an old dog trying to put it out of its misery and an abusive father figure is yelling at me to "DO IT! DO IT NOW!" and calling me names and the gun is shaking in my paws

I'm dog

[VP Baltar]

Your pair flip is the most important right now because it either shows us that MariaR was used as a counterwagon to a third scum elimination, or if we haven't touched scum yet since Ari's flip. It's a pretty important "info" to consider while trying to understand yesterday I think.

What is the conclusion if we flip t/t?

[Enchant]

I am abusive father

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: baltar/owen

[Shirou]

Your pair flip is the most important right now because it either shows us that MariaR was used as a counterwagon to a third scum elimination, or if we haven't touched scum yet since Ari's flip. It's a pretty important "info" to consider while trying to understand yesterday I think.

What is the conclusion if we flip t/t?

That scum was pretty unworried yesterday

Sorry if you're t/t, I feel I don't have much grounds to call you town anymore after TSQ didn't flip scum

[Enchant]

gg i was scum i won

[UNOwen]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo