New Year Dance Party [afterparty]

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:58 am

I mean maybe when you shifted on him is not clear to me. that was decently along I think? Lemme fact check myself

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:58 am

eh, that's only like 40 posts into gimli. I can see that.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:02 am

In post 2297, Ydrasse wrote:gimli/std is a big maybe for me but i don’t feel great about it

We also have this yesterday when discussion of a gimli/std alternate wagon came up.

The issue I keep running into with ydra when going through her ISO is that there is a lack of clear positioning, and that makes it really hard for me to trust positions and what she's wanted out of this game. I can kinda squint and see this aligning with what she said, but if also it's like...this is only 10 posts after the first one I cited and if she didn't like gimli there or std, why is this a "big maybe" from her?

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:03 am

In post 3048, Ydrasse wrote:fatal flaw: thinking reads and not posting them in lieu of restocking in neopets

can't vibe with neopets, but can vibe with the latter. I have a story after this game is over.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:03 am

*the former

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:05 am

In post 3049, fireisredsir wrote:ydra said in pt at start of last night that gimli had been really towny lately and i agreed cause i had been feeling the same vibes

yeah, I agree gimli towned it up. I'm just trying to assess when ydra felt that way because she did seem open to limming them yesterday a bit in those posts I cited. So I'm trying to clarify when she felt the way she did and why...but it's not really possible upon a close look.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:06 am

In post 3047, midwaybear wrote:
In post 3033, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2024, midwaybear wrote:VOTE: norwee/ari cuz i don't want fire/ydra flipped nor maria/furtive yet
vpb clearly isn't going through rn
one vote to lim
I like I how midway is trying to take credit for the ari flip when this was his vote lol.
That vote came at a time when people started getting cold feet on whether norwee/ari was actually the day's flip or not. So...
And the point of the post was more about u than me lol

would actually maybe be down to lim here first before I leave Owen.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:11 am

In post 3060, UNOwen wrote:I could roll with that

You've been pretty set on ydra all game tho...

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:18 am

VOTE: midway

When ze troll becomes ze trolled

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:23 am

In post 3066, UNOwen wrote:I am with you Baltar!

I hope this is right because then ours is a true romcom story where we got mad at each other and nearly broke up, but then found true love in the end.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:26 am

Hallmark, make this movie

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:28 am

In post 2949, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 2943, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2939, Ydrasse wrote:also i don’t think it’s powering thru an elim to be the third vote on ur wagon lol
Given you've only basically hammered this game, certainly a turn in voting urgency from you.
i’ve voted this game beyond just hammers
but you just remember the hammers because they’re like shinier

Also, just fact checking this, your only non-hammer vote was owen briefly. So 2 hammers to 1 non-hammer vote. I think my point stands there.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:31 am

In post 3071, Gimli wrote:I feel as though baltar is just trying many things to see what sticks, so he went ydra, now he is going midway, etc. and it kinda works cause he is talented scum. I hope I'm right, otherwise I'm a big scumsiding potato this game.

I think that's the team.

I'm not trying anything. Owen and I literally have a death pact, so unless you think we are S/S, what's the goal here?

I'm trying to prevent the world where we flip t/t and you all don't know what to do next because you sheeped an easy mislim. There's no world where this is my scum game, and I'm giving you a guarantee we just die next lim with the town in a better position

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:37 am

In post 3078, fireisredsir wrote:what about this is in no world your scumgame

Why would I do so many things to make myself look bad? I would never overcommit like that on a defense of ari when it seemed likely norwee was going to be a lim, and I wouldn't make the fight with shea/Maria so messy, which also makes me look bad.

When I play scum, I have clear goals and agendas, and unless my agenda here is lolgetrecked, should be pretty obvious I'm not scum.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:50 am

In post 3072, Enchant wrote:My ultimatum:

If VP and Owen both town i leave dance.

Instantly.

Now vote them.

Or we can just flip your team, and then there are two players committing to leave, so there is zero chance of funny business

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:04 am

In post 3083, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 3079, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3078, fireisredsir wrote:what about this is in no world your scumgame
Why would I do so many things to make myself look bad? I would never overcommit like that on a defense of ari when it seemed likely norwee was going to be a lim, and I wouldn't make the fight with shea/Maria so messy, which also makes me look bad.

When I play scum, I have clear goals and agendas, and unless my agenda here is lolgetrecked, should be pretty obvious I'm not scum.
ok but you could have been trying not to look bad and did not succeed. or you could have been trying to look uninformed

your most recent scumgame wasn't exactly pristine as far as "not looking bad" goes

And yet ausuka and I succeeded in making her look great and she won.

I would say that game was mostly a result of a shitty situation where people kept replacing out and I still made the most of it.

There's no actual coherent reason to call me scum here other than level zero obvious "he been wrong." That's just obvious limbait. But even if you think I'm scum, I've already explained why the plan Owen and I extensively work shopped last night is objectively a better approach. Mitigating risk as town is really important.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:23 am

In post 3099, Shirou wrote:VP you said that if MariaR/Furt flipped t/t you were fine with leaving the dance, now you're moving the goalpost to yet another elimination. I don't know, I think you guys flip is necessary here considering how fast this wagon has formed.

I said I would follow your vote in the PT Meuh, but i think if most people want this flip so hard we probably should get it. I do myself believe the chances of scum!VP or scum!Owen have drastically increased with MariaR/Firebringer town flips, so:

VOTE: VPBaltar/Õwen

I can try to sheep you in the next elimination dear Meuh

In post 3103, Save The Dragons wrote:baltar and owen

Midway/ydra

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:24 am

There's no way you should flip us here unless you're VERY certain we are scum.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:29 am

In post 3107, Shirou wrote:
In post 3105, VP Baltar wrote:There's no way you should flip us here unless you're VERY certain we are scum.
I'm pretty sure you said you were okay with being flipped today if Maria/Furt was t/t?

I was. I was planning to just leave because this is a distraction and I could be wrong on Owen.

That being said, Owen made a good point that me doing that probably cut off some level of info today. Therefore, it makes more sense for us to be the second lim this cycle since we both say we will leave. It's guaranteed to happen. If we are t/t, using a lim this way gives no info on something that is going to happen regardless.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:31 am

Best play here is:

Lim some pair in the assumption vp/Owen is town.

One of us leaves for sure post flip.

You get more info and have an actual chance of hitting scum with this play.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:34 am

In post 3114, Enchant wrote:
In post 3111, VP Baltar wrote:Best play here is:

Lim some pair in the assumption vp/Owen is town.

One of us leaves for sure post flip.

You get more info and have an actual chance of hitting scum with this play.
You already lied once

If I'm lying...Owen still leaves

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:35 am

In post 3115, Save The Dragons wrote:god this feels like i'm pointing a gun at an old dog trying to put it out of its misery and an abusive father figure is yelling at me to "DO IT! DO IT NOW!" and calling me names and the gun is shaking in my paws

I'm dog

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:35 am

In post 3113, Shirou wrote:Your pair flip is the most important right now because it either shows us that MariaR was used as a counterwagon to a third scum elimination, or if we haven't touched scum yet since Ari's flip. It's a pretty important "info" to consider while trying to understand yesterday I think.

What is the conclusion if we flip t/t?

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:38 am

Bad play town. Pretty sure this flips double green

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:39 am

Midway first, then probably ydra

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:40 am

In post 3130, Meuh wrote:Owen are you scum

This would be optimal if true, but I don't think so

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:47 am

Datisi asking me go play this game and then LAUGHING after doing THIS to me!!!!!111!!!1!111!

Scum even as mod

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:48 am

GG scum team. Meuh, you broke my heart. :'(

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:48 am

In post 3302, Gimli wrote:
In post 3295, UNOwen wrote:GG all and thanks for the game Datisi!

VPB - your Ydrasse/Meuh guess was not meh at all! Whoops.
VPB played super well, should've listened to him more

Lol this is bad advice

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:51 am

In post 3309, Meuh wrote:
In post 3303, VP Baltar wrote:GG scum team. Meuh, you broke my heart. :'(
The stance you took in every back and forth was always the one I found more reasonable so it was too easy to channel that into a townread... Sorry </3

I just always assume scum buddies me because it's hilarious to watch me flail for my life.

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:51 am

In post 3312, Datisi wrote:
In post 3299, VP Baltar wrote:Datisi asking me go play this game and then LAUGHING after doing THIS to me!!!!!111!!!1!111!
why can't you be as scummy as you were here when you're town against me

I was TSTBS

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:52 am

In post 3308, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 3305, Gimli wrote:
In post 3297, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 3288, Ydrasse wrote:also i left to avoid associatives and to not let fire solve
also more chaos is good
i knew it smh
I had no idea that was a play btw, I thought she threw
i had intended on leaving and had even asked when meuh wanted me to prior to enchant leaving!

This was very good play by the team. Glad to hear it was planned

VP Baltar · Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:56 am

In post 3321, fireisredsir wrote:its ok, ik it was chaotic. but imo there's never a need to rush things like that. i just wish it hadn't all happened while i couldn't be that active and so i wasn't able to sort things out as well as i would like to

I believe you would have solved if you hadn't been robbed of the chance