What prompted this? You seemed really invested in the PT
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You’re a fucking liar.In post 1374, Ranger wrote:
I realize you're new to mafiascum so you wouldn't be as familiar with the tactic Appeal to Emotion per mafiascum meta.In post 1372, UltimateGamer wrote:Gamma's self-vote is very very townie. I don't see scum gamma throwing the game along with her teamates unless it was a coordinated effort. It does not feel like a coordinated effort.
Gamma's self-vote isn't very townie; Gamma's self-vote wasstrategic.
Ironically, I agree with this, but for different reasoning.In post 1372, UltimateGamer wrote:Not_Mafia and Enchant jumping on that immediately after however... Is not something I like to see.
I feel it's quite likely 1-2 of them are scumwithGamma, and their joining Gamma in her self-vote was an extension of the strategy.
I've seen Gamma as frustrated town.In post 1372, UltimateGamer wrote:Like there's a world where she's scum, but I think it's not nearly as likely as frustrated angry townie who is fed up.
This does not look like Gamma as frustrated town.<Embrace The Void>
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To clarify, the world where Gamma is scum is one where her teammates are not cooperating or are MIA. She's carrying the entire team on her own, is mad at them for not helping her, mad at the town for suspecting her for reasons she sees as frivolous and is throwing the game in anger.
I think.
She is NOT getting emotional as an attempt to manipulate the town's emotions into changing our reads on her. There are people who do that, gamma is not one of them.-
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In that I agree. The main problem is I see the scum strategy here to point me out so then scum aren’t NK able in a SK world. If no SK and multiball Gamma can be town but between all the antitown stuff she’s doing I kind of don’t care. If a serious wagon happens I will join it.In post 1377, UltimateGamer wrote:To clarify, the world where Gamma is scum is one where her teammates are not cooperating or are MIA. She's carrying the entire team on her own, is mad at them for not helping her, mad at the town for suspecting her for reasons she sees as frivolous and is throwing the game in anger.
I think.
She is NOT getting emotional as an attempt to manipulate the town's emotions into changing our reads on her. There are people who do that, gamma is not one of them.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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It's really par for the course with these two, honestly.In post 1372, UltimateGamer wrote:Gamma's self-vote is very very townie. I don't see scum gamma throwing the game along with her teamates unless it was a coordinated effort. It does not feel like a coordinated effort.
Not_Mafia and Enchant jumping on that immediately after however... Is not something I like to see. Like if Gamma's town and they're the first two that follow her self-vote, that would obvioulsy bring them a LOT of heat that I don't think they'd want as scum, so I can't say it's a SCUMMY move but I don't like it nonetheless.
The more emotional Gamma get the more I'm beliving her. I do not want to eliminate gamma today.
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Then your position would be eliminate lurkers if not Gamma? I think Lurkers on the Frogsterking wagon would be a middle of the road position for everyone. It would satisfy me in that I would be looking into scum pushing Frogsterking, you would look into the Gamma theory and I believe Msth said he wouldn't mind a lurker lim.In post 1377, UltimateGamer wrote:To clarify, the world where Gamma is scum is one where her teammates are not cooperating or are MIA. She's carrying the entire team on her own, is mad at them for not helping her, mad at the town for suspecting her for reasons she sees as frivolous and is throwing the game in anger.
I think.
She is NOT getting emotional as an attempt to manipulate the town's emotions into changing our reads on her. There are people who do that, gamma is not one of them.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Lurker lim is fine by me. I have to go my database install finished and I have a literal mountain to do.In post 1381, Titus wrote:
Then your position would be eliminate lurkers if not Gamma? I think Lurkers on the Frogsterking wagon would be a middle of the road position for everyone. It would satisfy me in that I would be looking into scum pushing Frogsterking, you would look into the Gamma theory and I believe Msth said he wouldn't mind a lurker lim.In post 1377, UltimateGamer wrote:To clarify, the world where Gamma is scum is one where her teammates are not cooperating or are MIA. She's carrying the entire team on her own, is mad at them for not helping her, mad at the town for suspecting her for reasons she sees as frivolous and is throwing the game in anger.
I think.
She is NOT getting emotional as an attempt to manipulate the town's emotions into changing our reads on her. There are people who do that, gamma is not one of them.
If I agree with whoever is picked I will plop on.
Lack of trolling from NM had me worried though.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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VOTE: McMennoI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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Let me elaborate on this:In post 1376, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You’re a fucking liar.In post 1374, Ranger wrote:
I realize you're new to mafiascum so you wouldn't be as familiar with the tactic Appeal to Emotion per mafiascum meta.In post 1372, UltimateGamer wrote:Gamma's self-vote is very very townie. I don't see scum gamma throwing the game along with her teamates unless it was a coordinated effort. It does not feel like a coordinated effort.
Gamma's self-vote isn't very townie; Gamma's self-vote wasstrategic.
Ironically, I agree with this, but for different reasoning.In post 1372, UltimateGamer wrote:Not_Mafia and Enchant jumping on that immediately after however... Is not something I like to see.
I feel it's quite likely 1-2 of them are scumwithGamma, and their joining Gamma in her self-vote was an extension of the strategy.
I've seen Gamma as frustrated town.In post 1372, UltimateGamer wrote:Like there's a world where she's scum, but I think it's not nearly as likely as frustrated angry townie who is fed up.
This does not look like Gamma as frustrated town.
When have you experienced frustrated-town Gamma? Notseen, butexperienced.<Embrace The Void>
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Fair. I like McMenno more but fine with NM. Can you vote McMenno and we see how it goes?In post 1383, MathBlade wrote:Lack of trolling from NM had me worried though.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I don't want to vote Ranger even though I disagree with most of their takes, I'm sort of townreading them for playstyle.
I still believe Titus and imaginality are Masons, and think that based on good play they shouldn't be in the votepool until later in the game.
I don't like the wagon on Gamma. I'm getting bad vibes from Mathblade in particular, and was from tris as well.
I'll give my vote to this wagon though, one I also suggested yesterday.
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When I say 'based on good play', I don't mean Titus/imaginality have played well, I mean in terms of mechanical theory and playing optimally we should keep Mason claims alive until later.In post 1387, furtiveglance wrote:I don't want to vote Ranger even though I disagree with most of their takes, I'm sort of townreading them for playstyle.
I still believe Titus and imaginality are Masons, and think that based on good play they shouldn't be in the votepool until later in the game.
I don't like the wagon on Gamma. I'm getting bad vibes from Mathblade in particular, and was from tris as well.
I'll give my vote to this wagon though, one I also suggested yesterday.
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I will see when I get a moment to breathe if I agree with it.In post 1386, Titus wrote:
Fair. I like McMenno more but fine with NM. Can you vote McMenno and we see how it goes?In post 1383, MathBlade wrote:Lack of trolling from NM had me worried though.
I don’t want to vote anyone and have a wagon spawn instantly around it.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Gamma, what made you self-vote? I can't see a trigger for itIn post 1388, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can definitely see McMenno as scum but I'm currently not shifting my vote-
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Hi all. Didn't quite realise the game had restarted because I was just refreshing my QT and seeing it was still locked. Never played with an encryptor before.
I've admittedly also been lazy this game to date but in my head it's been justifiable.
I figure the most likely reason Titus and I are both alive today is scum hoping to get me mislimmed and therefore not wanting Titus to flip which would prove our claim. I think the chance of protectives being on me last night was low. It's possible scum were SK hunting with their kill but not sure that's likely as the dead players were both being quite protown. It's also possible there's some randomness like bus driver in play but more likely scum figured they can get me mislimmed.
In a world where Ranger is town that also gives scum cover since it was pretty predictable Ranger would keep pushing Titus and me today.
So I think there's scum on my wagon. UltimateGame(Ythan) was suspected by Morning Tweet so seems like a good suspect. Also was on the Frog wagon.
Prince could also fit as someone who seems to be mainly sheeping today and tapiocaphobe didn't post at all D1?
Math's probably my highest townread (aside from Titus).
If we're going with a lurker lim then sure McMenno seems okay.
Plus if I'm going to sheep anyone then I might as well sheep Titus.
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same thing that often triggers my self-votes: wanting to remove the obvious distraction to solving that is myselfIn post 1391, furtiveglance wrote:
Gamma, what made you self-vote? I can't see a trigger for itIn post 1388, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can definitely see McMenno as scum but I'm currently not shifting my vote<Embrace The Void>
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So there was no trigger, you just decided to.In post 1393, Gamma Emerald wrote:
same thing that often triggers my self-votes: wanting to remove the obvious distraction to solving that is myselfIn post 1391, furtiveglance wrote:
Gamma, what made you self-vote? I can't see a trigger for itIn post 1388, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can definitely see McMenno as scum but I'm currently not shifting my vote-
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Nothing set in stone honestly....In post 1373, Titus wrote:UltimateGamer, who are your SRs? I'm trying to find a remotely acceptable wagon, even if it's no one's preferred wagon.
You and Imagine are probably my biggest leads at the moment, and I don't think you're goin for those :p
mmmmmmm Maybe? But I'm not feeling it at all. Has gamma set a prescedent of pulling these manuvers as scum? From my experience she is not one to do that.In post 1374, Ranger wrote:
I realize you're new to mafiascum so you wouldn't be as familiar with the tactic Appeal to Emotion per mafiascum meta.In post 1372, UltimateGamer wrote:Gamma's self-vote is very very townie. I don't see scum gamma throwing the game along with her teamates unless it was a coordinated effort. It does not feel like a coordinated effort.
Gamma's self-vote isn't very townie; Gamma's self-vote wasstrategic.
This isn't a bad idea honestly. I could go for lurkers on the frog wagon there's most likely scum there. But this Mechmo wagon that has suddenly formed out of nowhere. Really looks bad to me.In post 1381, Titus wrote:In post 1377, UltimateGamer wrote:To clarify, the world where Gamma is scum is one where her teammates are not cooperating or are MIA. She's carrying the entire team on her own, is mad at them for not helping her, mad at the town for suspecting her for reasons she sees as frivolous and is throwing the game in anger.
I think.
She is NOT getting emotional as an attempt to manipulate the town's emotions into changing our reads on her. There are people who do that, gamma is not one of them.-
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What does an encryptor do?In post 1392, imaginality wrote:Never played with an encryptor before.I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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I haven'tIn post 1385, Gamma Emerald wrote:Let me elaborate on this:
When have you experienced frustrated-town Gamma? Notseen, butexperienced.playedwith you before, so I haven't firsthandexperiencedfrustrated-town Gamma. But I didn't say experienced; I saidseenbecause, Ithathave.
My word choice was apt.
An excellent question!In post 1391, furtiveglance wrote:
Gamma, what made you self-vote? I can't see a trigger for itIn post 1388, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can definitely see McMenno as scum but I'm currently not shifting my voteAKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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I want people to look at 1392 and tell me what alignment that post looks like. Disregarding claims, in a vacuum; how would you be reading imaginality from his posting?AKA, rBree2. Casual tryhard. I've Quite the RANGE. #pluralgangGame History"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."- RadiantCowbells |"Ranger's been town in most of them."- Plotinus
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then maybe listen to people whoIn post 1397, Ranger wrote:
I haven'tIn post 1385, Gamma Emerald wrote:Let me elaborate on this:
When have you experienced frustrated-town Gamma? Notseen, butexperienced.playedwith you before, so I haven't firsthandexperiencedfrustrated-town Gamma. But I didn't say experienced; I saidseenbecause, Ithathave.
My word choice was apt.
An excellent question!In post 1391, furtiveglance wrote:
Gamma, what made you self-vote? I can't see a trigger for itIn post 1388, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can definitely see McMenno as scum but I'm currently not shifting my votehaveexperienced it. UG has certainly experienced it, in a circumstance not unlike this one<Embrace The Void>
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