i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

[kitten around]

I don't think we should be talking about why they left, it has nothing to do with this

but anyway sorry I fed you up I guess

Frog was pushing both of them.

[Korina]

Please do not speculate why players have replaced out of the game; things like why someone replaced out is best suited for post-game, and only if those involved openly wish to discuss it.

[Titus]

I can see a KA+QO team I just would rather get who scum don’t want.

Take the scum given. We can disagree on QO and UG later.

[imaginality]

VOTE: kitten around

[Gimli]

Two more let's go

[Ranger]

Ranger hard defending mcmenno makes absolutely zero sense to me unless he has information or is powerwolfing

Have you considered McMenno is a townread of mine off of their content and I think the people pushing McMenno are largely suspect?
And I feel there's no good case on McMenno?

[Ranger]

{KA, Elements, me}
So you are implying, at least in the PoV that McMenno is town, that there is at least a scum in there right?

I do.

I can see one, or both, of {Elements, biancospino} as scum.

While you've done nothing to

strengthen

my scumread on Gamma, you've also done nothing to

weaken

it, either.

[Ranger]

VOTE: McMenno

There's another scum vote and another reason I dislike the McMenno wagon.

I feel Gimli is town.
I feel kitten around is town.

The majority of the wagon's voters are still suspect.

[Ranger]

kitten around is very likely flipping scum because there's little chance her defense of quiet owl on d1 to frogster came from town.

This only works with Quiet Owl being scum--flip Quiet Owl first.

I believe kitten around is town. Quite strongly.

[Ranger]

VOTE: kitten around

And you wonder why I think imaginality and Titus are scum here.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I can see a KA+QO team I just would rather get who

scum

don’t want.

who is the word "scum" referring to in this sentence?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

kitten around is very likely flipping scum because there's little chance her defense of quiet owl on d1 to frogster came from town.

This only works with Quiet Owl being scum--flip Quiet Owl first.

I believe kitten around is town. Quite strongly.

I'm starting to think you're scum tbh

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Two more let's go

paging Enchant and Not_Mafia. I'm happy ending the day with KA.

[Ranger]

kitten around is very likely flipping scum because there's little chance her defense of quiet owl on d1 to frogster came from town.

This only works with Quiet Owl being scum--flip Quiet Owl first.
I believe kitten around is town. Quite strongly.

I'm starting to think you're scum tbh

You have the right to be wrong.

[MathBlade]

I can see a KA+QO team I just would rather get who

scum

don’t want.

who is the word "scum" referring to in this sentence?

Both of them.

KA+QO scum together
KA defended QO.
Therefore KA is an acceptable loss to that team.

Scum doesn’t want QO dead so let’s elim QO.

[Quiet Owl]

kitten around is very likely flipping scum because there's little chance her defense of quiet owl on d1 to frogster came from town.

?? This doesn’t follow if you think QO is town?

kitten started to talk about quiet owl's multiball theory when she was supposed to be talking about quiet owl's MQ of frog, like kitten couldn't follow their own supposed reasons for townreading QO.

I think the defense of QO comes from informed scum with TMI that owl is town, and not necessarily a SvS world.

why do you think that i'm town and kitten is informed scum, when occam's razor would indicate that both of us are scum on the same team?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Can you just vote kitten

Do you have a read on that slot

[Gimli]

"Occam's razor"

I see you didn't read my posts, quiet. Can you just vote kitten so we move the game forward?

[Lycanfire]

Frankly, I considered it was possible that kitten saw QO as inevitable and was tmi'ing QO, the sheer frequency of defenses made me wonder if scum would be so obvious.

The Ythan slot seems promising too. I'd really lim anyone in {kitten, UltimateGamer, Quiet Owl}, would definitely vote someone like enchant before NM or McMenno.

Ranger resistance to the wagon is bizarre as is Math's "wanting to get the scum scum don't want us to get" comment is too. Not sure if trolling or building a narrative.

[Lycanfire]

also ultimategamer did you get a read on me yet

lol

[Lycanfire]

also- find it very hard to believe biancospino role :^)

[Quiet Owl]

I'm scumleaning KA after ISOing, it's taking a lot of safe stances from the first day and their reads don't feel maleable like a towny. I haven't read the entirety of it but I can see why people want it dead.

i agree with this.

however the logical conclusion from someone defending someone else, when the majority of the player list is against them, in a way that is flimsy or illogical is that they're scum partners. or lovers. or otherwise entangled, e.g. pr whose ability only works while that person's still alive.

scum do not typically stick their necks out for random townies. scum lets the town eliminate townies that look suspicious, and uses their nightkill on the ones who could never be eliminated in the day.

but hey maybe not acting normally is an excellent way to fool me. VOTE: kitten around

[UltimateGamer]

I'm only sorta back. I'm tayping this out from my phone. so I can't really do quotes very easily but Titus brought up a great point. Like, McMemo and NC are the _exact same situation_. Like honestly the only reason I think I was kinda considering NM was because I was kinda annoyed with their ISO and really REALLY wanted an elim?

Either way, not a good elimination. As much as I wanna yeet somoeone soon, I still don't feel comfortable on the kitten wagon. I... Don't. I'm sorry. Just something in my jellies is telling me this is wrong.

I'm also not really feeling Owl anymore. There's still a slight scum read but honestly it has lessened as the day drags. I DO feel good about Enchant. I'm not sure I can get a wagn going I can try.

VOTE: Enchant

I'll expand on the read tomorrow when I can give a good case. But so many of their posts just feel disingenuous

Speaking of disingenuous, Gimly has been buddying up to me........ and I don't wanna be a jerk to them, because they've been really kind so far, and vouching for me, which makes me want to trust them....

But boy oh boy that line "we're thinking the same, vote with me" just raised the hair on the back of my neck. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm an asshole here, but there was something about their progression on me that just rubbed me very wrong.

Again I'm sorry Gimly you've been really really nice so far but I just had to say something, I thought I'd regret it if I didn't speak up about that sort of thing.

Oh, and lycan, you seem like you're lying low, seem very interested in how I'm reading you, and seem like you're doing JUST enough to scrape by without drawing too much attention. Slight scum read on you my guy.

Okay see y'all tomorrow

[kitten around]

I can see a KA+QO team I just would rather get who

scum

don’t want.

who is the word "scum" referring to in this sentence?

Both of them.

KA+QO scum together
KA defended QO.
Therefore KA is an acceptable loss to that team.

Scum doesn’t want QO dead so let’s elim QO.

VOTE: Mathblade

That’s my secret scumread. Kill McMenno after I flip, kthanx

Oh and Titus is terrible at reading him but I’m actually not.

[Ranger]

That’s my secret scumread. Kill McMenno after I flip, kthanx

kitten around isn't claiming, that's a sign of a town player, right?

@Cat Scratch Favor