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Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:01 pm

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In post 180, Toto wrote:Una scum.
In post 253, Toto wrote:We can just murder una and call it a day.

VOTE: una
Fairly baseless vote on town, which Toto came back to at eod.
In post 141, Toto wrote:I want to massmurder all anime characters.
I find jokes like this scummy
In post 1106, Toto wrote:Yeah I want to murder tgp or shurro but can’t decide who yet.

I was scum reading una for the early town read on shurro. Specifically the comment about shurro being relaxed early on striked me as tmi’ed. Later posting from una has been ok and I wanted to give the slot a breather. If una scum maybe shurro town. Could also be scum theatre.

Norwegian I had an early town read on for pushing some of the things I was noticing, I’m not sure how I feel about them post shurro stunt.

Tgp push on shurro feels a bit forced and tunneled. Tgp would appreciate if you can share reads on other players.

CSF feels better than cakes so far.

I like ari more lately. Thanks for reads ari. Still a bit wary. I have issues trusting anime girls.

Lucian I have as null. I was nodding when he was complaining about thread noise but haven’t seen anything super townie either. Pedit oh some posts not caught up.

I guess I’m townleaning Aubrey now. Early posting looked like trying to blend in but I like they are pushing the thread in the right direction. I liked some of his reads. And been nodding to some of his posts.

Pina has contributed a lot but I don’t feel, I don’t really know how to put it, concise solviness. I see some of the thoughts laid bare which good but they lack skin in the game.

Klick putting shurro and pina in the same bucket in terms of play style is odd but I liked some earlier posting. Nulltown

Gamma idk to be honest. I have been pinged both ways. Nulltown.

Std not bad so far. Nulltown

So tldr I have to many reads close to null. This game is weird.
2 scumreads, but finishes with 'this game is weird lotta nullreads'. Not something I would do, I usually pick a scumread and push it quite hard
In post 1215, Toto wrote:I'm obvtown
Self-interest
In post 1586, Toto wrote:toto - town alpha cat
fire/air - town
std - town
pina - probs town

---- murder is not ideal but acceptable line -----

aubrey
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---- not gonna cry line ----

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---- murder is necessary line ----

Shurro / TGP
Tone is really jokey, it's as if they don't really care
In post 1803, Toto wrote:Also something doesn't add up to me in the current game state,

There is definitely some resistance against Shurro. Aubrey, Norwee and Gimly have expressed resistance. So it can't all be scum team. Some townies are town reading Shurro, which I can get why given effort and frequent posting. I'm not really sure where Pina, Klick and CSF stand on this. I think Fire, std are ok with shurro dying. TGP also think Shurro is town.

I don't see as much resistance to TGP, klick is the only one that have expressed a townread on this slot. Una was scum reading TGP, Gamma was scum reading TGP. Ari thought TGP was town, but Fire thinks he is scum. Lack of resistance could be town indicative for TGP in this set up but maybe TGP is dead weight for the scum team. if scum!TGP someone in his team is willing to bus, apparently, or at least hasn't complained about him dying. Alternatively Gamma was a frame kill and TGP is town. But OTOH if they wanted to just frame TGP why just not kill me? OTOH if scum!TGP killing me was probably too obvious and killing gamma a good second best. I don't think I was widely townread so maybe keeping me around as a lim target also makes sense.

Given gamma was following Shurro around I think Shurro doesn't want to kill Gamma. Obviously there is wifom but IDK that it is worth it.

Then we have Aubrey saying this was a no info kill, which is odd. And Klick town reading TGP is odd, as Shurro points out.

Killing gamma points a bit at TGP but also takes away some power from Shurro.

If Shurro and TGP are both town I expect scum here to be wating on the sidelines taking or cautiously taking different sides... something like Gimly-Klick-CSF could make sense.
Point about gamestate is scummy because it's vague and hard to argue with, and just randomly dreams up a scumteam with no follow up on it
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Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:04 pm

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In post 1872, giuseppina wrote:
In post 1871, furtiveglance wrote:I also think Toto's ISO is really scummy, that was my other big one
why toto iso scummy

and also can you go over how you're viewing shirou

especially with regards to una wagon
Shirou seems town. I don't even want to look too closely, I don't need to. He was just like this in NY Dance Party and seems like he's playing to die a bit
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Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:05 pm

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Thanks for quoting me and putting thoughts in my head. You are wrong.
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Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:07 pm

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I'm quickly realising that there aren't enough townread town in this, let alone a UTR.
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Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:13 pm

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Tell me more
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Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:13 pm

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Tell me more
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Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:14 pm

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Sorry double post *
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Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:24 pm

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In post 1847, Gimli wrote:
In post 1827, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 1824, Gimli wrote:Not townreading fire should be a crime but ok
Why is he unassailable town?
It's fire, it reads and feels like fire should, this is no longer a slot that's tainted vy
This doesn't help, sorry!
In post 1850, Gimli wrote:And that you don't notice it feels odd to me, cat

Pedit: I'm townreading it rather strongly, furtive. I'm also very positive you're town here
Have you seen scum fire?
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Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:31 pm

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In post 1867, Gimli wrote:Also anyone strong townreading me I'll probably suspect so don't
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Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:32 pm

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In post 1875, furtiveglance wrote:I find jokes like this scummy
the previous inhabitant of your slot was also quite fond of saying similar things re:anime if i remember correctly

hmhmhm

among other maybe notable similarities between aubrey and toto
In post 1875, furtiveglance wrote:Self-interest
don't think this is scummy - i kinda wanted to reply to your post about the game lacking a universal townread with 'it me' but thegoldenparadox is nullreading me because he thinks i am unsortable because he thinks that shirou thinks that i am unsortable or that shirou believes in my ability or something - i am not sure exactly as i do not think shirou finds me unreadable nor do i think shirou thinks highly of my ability and i attempted to ask thegoldenparadox about this but thegoldenparadox disparu and it seemed like a lot to addendum to 'it me'
In post 1875, furtiveglance wrote:Tone is really jokey, it's as if they don't really care
or this

like toto is presenting a readslist there in a way that toto probably finds somewhat comedic, yes, i can see that

but why does that imply toto does not care

and why is that not caring scum indicative
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Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:34 pm

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I'm about as interested as following you onto Toto as I am following shirou onto klick and as interested as I am in stabbing my eyeballs out
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Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:17 pm

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In post 1855, Shirou wrote:hypocritical of me to ask but I would appreciate not hammering TGP yet

haven't had time or energy for this game atm
Same
I've fallen behind on work for my apprenticeship and did that instead of this last night
I'm skimming up to present time atm
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Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:18 pm

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In post 1871, furtiveglance wrote:I also think Toto's ISO is really scummy, that was my other big one
Generally agreed

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Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:20 pm

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In post 1876, furtiveglance wrote:Shirou seems town. I don't even want to look too closely, I don't need to. He was just like this in NY Dance Party and
seems like he's playing to die a bit
This is a VERY good summary of what I've been trying to put into words about Shirou, thanks for that
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Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:59 pm

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In post 1882, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Have you seen scum fire?
No

I was rly drunk a few hours ago so my leans became quite exaggerated. I am townreading what fire posts since the start of the gameday but granted I don't know his scum range and it's too early to assume their spectator thoughts aren't what's still making him feel town.
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Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:25 pm

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In post 1446, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Aside from the hammer, I also think TGP is scummy for pushing Shirou for policy reasons but trying to not make it seem like a policy push ( says shirou's metapush is scummy but he also needs to be fearlimmed)

Then his transition to a Shirou townread in feels too sudden and unnatural. If you look at TGP's ISO, he has alternated between scumreading Shirou and being uncertain about him ever since page 22 ( - votes Shirou). The quoted Shirou post that gives him a change of heart doesn't even feel that AI to me -

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In post 1328, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 1310, Shirou wrote:I haven't that much experience on Lucian/Una so I feel scummy vibes but not "never wrong"/"almost never wrong" confidence

If you do feel that I can vote Una
i'm insanely skeptical that you can even hit that level of confidence on d1 reliably ever

...but god, you're just town aren't you Shirou

UNVOTE:

i maintain that i should vote you if i don't reasonably strongly townread you but right now even trying to discount hard for the fact that activity makes you seem more towny you seem actually trying to solve the game


Also feels like it was edited after the fact to add a respond to Aristeia's (the quoted posts are out of order)
Note to self to give a proper look at TGP's progression on Shirou when I've got the time. Promise I'm not ignoring you Cat.
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Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:29 pm

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UNVOTE:
furtive's posting is good so far and I want more

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Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:24 pm

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VOTE: Klick
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Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:17 am

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Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:50 am

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Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:54 am

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In post 1891, Klick wrote:UNVOTE:
furtive's posting is good so far and I want more

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Can you expand on your std townread?
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Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:32 am

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why did you vote klick

why are we shouting
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Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:05 am

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hm, other than ??? una vote at the end of day one save the dragons has been pretty towny yeah
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Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:08 am

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In post 1858, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1857, Gimli wrote:We got this I think
What exactly is ur solve? Lemme see if it makes sense.
if you and shirou are both actually town here i think the worlds are not very numerous so i would appreciate you helping to resolve your half of that if
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Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:10 am

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but also maybe i should be better at reading what you have posted so far if you’re town given but i do not have that feeling,

so!
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